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2018-11-02 at 12:02 PM UTC in Money has no actual real valueNothing has "actual real value"The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-11-02 at 7:39 AM UTC in Money has no actual real valueMoney is the only thing with value. Everything else can be converted into currency, even electricity. It is an idol through which humanity collectively worships the deity known as Desire.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-11-02 at 6:50 AM UTC in Money has no actual real valueLol enjoy hoarding digital representations of federal reserve notes.
Ever try withdrawing 10k at once? It literally breaks any local branch and they have to phone the armored truck to make a special delivery for your worthless paper.
I remember handing my bank a $2000 cheque and asking for it all in cash and the guy starting panicking and trying to talk me out of it. I just told him I can't buy weed with a bank card and they approved the transaction.
Why the fuck does a bank have to approve me trying to get the money that I own? Oh that's right it's because I don't own it, the government backed banks own my money.
Bitcoin is the only real money, it's backed by the destruction of the natural environment for power consumption which is truly priceless.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/bitcoin-mining-climate-change-1.4883647
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2018-10-30 at 8:16 AM UTC in my night's storyI was gonna try to make this into a rap but I dont think I can
so ill just tell this quick story probably
or maybe I can, like a bad man with bad men
like a chiken in a coop of hens
ugh
this thread is about what happend to me tonight ok so
I was talking to weenie butt aka fralalalala alalalalallalalalalalalal and others and then I had to go to the BAR with my nigga CHRIS so I was like Chris wasup and he's like nothing so we wne there and played some PIG WEHEEL you gys ever do that? PIG WHEEL?
anyway I hit my number twice in 3 turns which I never do so it payed out like 80-1 which is cool since i only bet a dollar on that spot so I won 80 dollars and then im like "lets go" and chris is like "yeah ok" and then we went up to the bar to pay his tab
and the bartender wasnt there because it's not the normal one the noraml one is micheellle but its her one day off a week
so. it was a new faggot bartender and we was trying to pay his tab and he literally couldn't because he wasn't there and so we went to the other end of the bar to ask the other bartender and shes like "I don't know where he is either he is a piece of shit" . she said that.l " he's a pice of shit i have no idea"
so we're like "uhhhh ok wtf" and then wer're at the lobbby area and then he FINALLY comes around like he was in some weird haunted corridor the whole tme and hes like WOAHHHHH what the fuck are you guy sdoing you can't leave with those drinks in your hand!!
and obvoisly im drunk right: and im like "fuck m8 we've been waiting on you for the last half hour to just pay our tab" and hes like "oh ive been busy getting NAPKINS" (from some room) and so wtf
so you're gett8ing NAPKINS you stupid bitch and we're just trying to literally pay out and he wants to make US to be the bad guys and so
AND SO
so we're walking down the stairs to leave the establishmnent, my buddy has his GLASS BOTTLE BEER in hand, I have my plastic drink in hand, and he suddenly flies in , suddenly ,tries to tell us WE CANT LEAVE with those. WE CANT LEAVE WITH GLASS BOTTLES.
and so i say "you're closing you stupid bitch we can leave however we want:
and he says ":nooooope you aren't allowed to leave with a glass bottle"
so i am getting really mad and i say "you fuckng kidding me dude? you havent been there for the lat half an hour when we (by we I mean he, my friend) were trying to pay our (by our i mean his) tab.
then he starts talking shit and we start talking shit and start walking down the stairs more and leave the building while he's yelling at us and then he said something from way back and it made me stop at the base of the stairs right when we were gonna leave peaceflly
he said "you dont know what you're getting yourself into". we were just gonna leave and walk home but he said that and I was juyst drunk enough to where I stopped in ME TRACKS. like a british m8. i stopped literally as I was holdihng the exit door, looked back up to him and said "you wot m8?:" and he said it again . and I said come down here and say it to me again bitch, cuz he was just standin gup there at the top of the stairs, so come down bitch. CASH ME OUSSIDE. haha i didn't actually say CASH me ousside but i
anyway he came outside and I had a rabble rouse with him talking more shit and words and he was frustrated because he was in the wrong the whole time because he's a faggot bitch noob bartender pussy and we fought in the parking lot and I don't ever fight but I was angry enough to do it tonight and so we did it and maybe I was lucky but I got a good swing on him and dropped his ass, lol, and then me and dude left. like right after. he dropped, we left. I ddin't wanna make a spectacle of it. dumb bitch though he's still making me mad how he tried to fucking antagonize me and friend for trying to find him to pay his tab. I hate him I hope he died.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-07 at 8:59 PM UTC in I think we take websites like this for grantedniggerThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-10-07 at 7:27 PM UTC in I think we take websites like this for grantedI recently visited a few forums I haven't posted on for years. Forums concerning obscure subjects most people don't know about. There was almost no activity to speak of; in fact one of the most recent threads was about how dead the place was. People pointed out that other forums concerning fringe hobbies, weird video games, etc were also dead.
Basically, a majority of forums are dying. And everyone on that forum was looking for an answer as to why. Most people blamed Twitter and Instagram, but this is just a cop-out. The real reason forums are dying is because the developed world countries are aging rapidly. For 50 years, fertility in the developed world has declined every 10 years, meaning each generation is smaller than the previous.
The fertility decline was particularly great among educated middle class-upper middle class females; the same women who are most likely to produce children who do things like posting on forums. Most of the people who created and participated these forums are late baby boomers-Gen X. These people eventually gdt consumed by the wage cuck lifestyle and stop doing things like running and posting on forums.
Remember Jeff Hunter? Everyone is exploring a conspiracy as to why he stopped running a web forum. An equally likely explanation is that he was a middle aged male who had to move on in life, for whatever reason. Could he have been hit particularly hard by the 2008-2009 financial crisis, --which affected his age cohort the hardest--, and which seemed to strike at the exact time when he shut the forum down?
Did Jeff Hunter even have any kids? Do you guys? Probably, the majority of us do not. Late 2000s Totse and Zoklet were the peak era for web forum activity. That was the period in history where the largest number of relevant-age people with similar interests and intelligence were converging on web forums for discussing things in any detail. In every web forum I encounter the quality of discussion peaks around the years 2004-2012.
The "first world" countries are being engulfed in the ruins of dead shopping plazas, abandoned suburbs, empty playgrounds and inactive web forums. All of this can be traced back to the low birth rate.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-04 at 1:09 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by AL-LADdin It is good and bad for the society and generally it's individuals, which is the only context that morality even exists in. That is the difference.
Define what "good" or "bad" for society is.
Define "good" or "bad".
Everyone has their own interpretation of what is good for society.
Nothing is good or bad for society. Morality only exists if you will it to exist. Nobody is bound to a set of rules that don't exist.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-02 at 11:06 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by AL-LADdin
Are you of the belief that everyone has their own independant moral system, in that it may be morally good for one person to eat meat, and morally bad for another?
If you agree that nothing inherently matters and that morality is just a human construct, than how is any of it universal in the slightest?
Define good and bad. Is it well being?
Define well-being.
Now compare your answers to mine.
They will be different answers becuose I am not you, I don't have your genetic makeup, and vice vers.
Good is subjective.
There is no objective subjective.
And does not living things always do what they percieve to be "good" for themselves? How do they intentionally act "badly", or selflessly?
Our definitions of good and bad are different. Therfor, our "morality" as you call it, which is a pointless concept that doesn't exist, would be individualized.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-02 at 12:10 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatIf the system breaks down and the food stops shipping to grocery stores all you MJWs (moral justice warriors) will eat rats, bugs and anything else you can sink your teeth into including each other.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-10-02 at 2:39 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by AL-LADdin You don't need to believe in a higher power to agree with Kant's essential point. His ethics are an incredible framework for egoist social contract theory. You can replace the coocoo parts with far more rational ideas, but keep the meat, the framework, the exact same.
That's not what I said at all.
His reasoning structure post-premise is sound, but his premise is flawed, so none of his later reasoning matters.
Kant believes that things "ought" to be a certain way, in that things "matter". Things only "matter" if humans are somehow more specialer than other species. Kant was of that opinion.
It is most likely that none of this INHERENTLY matters. To assert that any of this DOES inherently matter requires hard evidence of such. Since no evidence of deities, higher force, or whathaveyou I have witnessed is convincing enough for me to have faith in, to believe in such deities, higher force, or whathaveyou, would be irrational.
Since nothing inherently matters, the only things that matter are what we decide matter. What matters to you is the only thing that matters. That doesn't necessarily mean it matters to me, though, because my interpretation of what matters will be different from yours becoos of my different genetic structure, life experiences, and exact positioning in spacetime.
Since most of the evidence I have witnessed suggests that none of this probably matters, that is the rational conclusion I have come to. Could it matter? Sure, but that is much less likely given the differing sets of evidence I've witnessed.
This is what I've been trying to explain to Lanny, but he keeps bringing up Kant, insisting that that his premises are somehow based on universal truths/laws, which don't exist.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-09-21 at 8:04 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-09-21 at 7:42 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-09-21 at 11:50 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Zanick Taste is not a very good point upon which to mount a defense for the practice of murdering millions of helpless animals every year, but ease of access is a real concern. The first world can, in my belief, afford to move to a completely vegetarian diet. Economically, this would be difficult to stomach but it would be possible. But in shitty countries where there is a scarcity of food (not just meat) and animal products are the most nutritious available options, it would help for Western governments to invest in them agriculturally. Animal well-being isn't the only reason we should do this; Americans in particular enjoy a very good lifestyle on the whole, and it's about time they gave a slice of that to the people struggling to swallow their cakes of dirt. There's absolutely no reason children should be starving over eggs in India when they could be given enriched rice or soy or some other easily cultivated plant-based protein source.
Animals are helpless, which means they will naturally live a life of suffering when left to their own devices. The default mode of four-legged existence is suffering. Life sucks when you have four legs and no fingers.
I read a few months ago that something like 70% of moose in Maine die in the wild from ticks. If you've ever seen a moose covered by ticks over 80% of its body, you know how scary nature really is. Others die from freezing to death when they get mange or chronic wasting disease. Getting predated upon is a very painful, slow, terrifying experience.
We can look at the miserable state of wild animals, and allow them to suffer pointlessly because of their natural handicaps, or we can reach in and take advantage of all the benefits of animal domestication, while giving these animals a fairly decent improvement in comfort and safety of the course of their lives.
Anti-meat/milk activists also have no answer as to what to do with animals when we stop killing/milking them. Do we let them loose? If so, they cause much environmental destruction and crop losses. They also get brutally killed by other animals or ticks, or cold wet winds, or hunger. They also take land from wild animals such as deer and the American and Eurasian bison, which are finally resurging after being nearly exterminated. Encounters between them and freed cows would lead to further hybridization; this is irresponsible.
The only "moral" solution would be to end the "holocaust" by simply exterminating all domesticated animals once and for all. But no one wants to do that, and it defeats the entire purpose as well.
The truth is, morality is not the be-all and end-all of human decisions. The biggest con the system ever taught us was that it is, and that we have to have these pointless discussions about abstract ideas like "morality" to justify our actions. We do not. There is something else called reality, and it's far more important. Human actions are about 75% reality, 25% morality. It's what works.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-09-20 at 3:06 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by DontTellEm Lanny, are u able to simplify?
I'm interested in what u have to say but it's hard for me to follow.
It's cool if someone were to be aware of whom their speaking, & not just speak.
the best way to defend a shaky belief is by enshrouding it with complex sentence structures and obsfucating it with large, scarry big, long words.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-09-16 at 9:14 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatAnything that lives can sense things.
Living things possess the goals of growth, reproduction, and perhaps fostering youth. Therefor, no living being wants to be dead before it is dying, besides some humans. (Due to rising suicide rates and existential viewpoint shifts en masse, Malice's theory may hold some weight. Perhaps more on that later.)
In the sense that no living thing wants to be dead, nothing from cacti to roadrunner to bacteria should be killed when morality and/or altruism are accepted and applied by humans.
There is no known natural morality by other animals and plants; only constructed morality by humans.
Greed is what drives all living things; acts of seeming compassion or altruism are actually very complex acts of greed. Other living things do not hold the life of prey as valuable because it does not help theirselves.
It is not necessary for humans to cuff the chains of morality on theirselves, nor is it necessary for them to abstain from eating meat or anything that was living and subsequently killed prior to or during consumption.
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2018-09-13 at 12:56 PM UTC in Google is literally a political organization. Not a company.you or any of us here in the united states that have a social security card, ID, drivers license, credit or bank card, insurance card, cable and tv, a phone, uses the internet, has a car, has an address, etc etc that information is in some computer data base, you can be tracked or have your house and property viewed on line by satellite.
every commercial is designed to influence you. every political party wants to influence you to their way of thinking. every company wants to influence you to buy their products.
the only way your information or your life is truly private,not be tracked or spied on or influenced is to ditch all those things I mentioned and move out in the wilderness with none of those things.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-09-12 at 7:50 PM UTC in Night ShiftI did the 11-7 night shift for abiut 6 months up at some shifty laundromat on the north part of town, also doubled as a 24 hour tanning salon lol. It was near the main campus and also near some trailer parks so between the haggard folk doing laundry at all hours and the shit canned students coming into tan up until around 2, there were definitely some stories.
Hell the first night I worked there some girl walked up to the counter with this weird look, sort of held her gaze for a few seconds then turned to the side and threw up all over. She looked me again, said sorry and left. The fucking bathroom was literally 15 feet away too. So that was fun having a hue of vomit lingering in the lobby while I cleaned up that little mess.
For some reason girls really liked to piss in the garbage in the tanning booths too, like once they took their clothes off to tan they suddenly had to piss SO BADLY that they couldn't throw their clothes on quick to yes the bathroom, no, they just pissed in the little garbage can in the corner, for guys like me to find when he's changing out the bags.
It good to the point where we had to fasten the garbage up on the wall so they couldn't be reached to actually piss in, especially by a girl, and yet they STILL managed to do it which would involve some serious acrobatics, and far more effort than just using the bathroom down the hall. They fucking got off on that.
Little piss girls.
But anyway I liked the hours. I'd stay up until mid afternoon and sleep til around 9 then just get ready and hang out til work again. My sleep habits have always been sorta peculiar so adjusting to dramatic shifts doesn't take long for me.
Looking back though I'd definitely rather work the hours I do now like 10—8 or 12-8. Let's me sleep in a little and enjoy my favorite hours of 9pm to 3am.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-09-01 at 11:06 PM UTC in Mastering the YaoStep 1:
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2018-06-28 at 7:04 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by benny vader dont waste your time.
this whole thread is a matting ground and all its posts are matting call for people with an above average IQs. real or imagined.
this is how ''intellectuals' and their wanna be counterparts look for potential mates.
I was actually going to mention that the language lanny and falcor use is difficult to follow for anyone who doesn't get a boner reading philosophy papers, and that it's likely a large part of the conflict here
oh, looks like I just didThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-06-27 at 8:13 PM UTC in atlas tuggedThis was the first "chapter book", as my teachers used to say, I have read for leisure since high school. I read it over the course of about a year or 2 with about 2 months of heavy reading, then a 6 month break, then 2 more reading months, etc. I read a lot of it during WD last year because Suboxone makes me want to sit down and read for some reason. I want to share some of my thoughts on the book and author with you.
For those of you who don't know, this a really really really long book about a philisophy called Objectivism and its applications through ficticious literature. It is longer than War and Peace. She took amphetamine for weight loss while writing he most famous works, it kinda shows.
A concept that I like, is that it takes the premise of a fractured society and really does flesh out nearly every nitty gritty instance and detail of how a slowly decaying society falls, tries to repair itself, and continually fails through utter unwillingness to let go of a comfortable and familiar, but doomed, system. Hence, the length.
The writing style is romantic; it takes a "perfect" (in a sense) person and reveals glory through accomplishment. Romantic paintings, for example, follow this style by showing pure emotion and awe from the artist's perespective. When I think of Romanticism, I imagine a "New dawn", or ultimate triumph, so to speak. Rand does a good job of expressing this; tere's not a ton of new age romantic writers out there.
As this is more or less the manifesto of a philisophy, (Rand has written more formal works but they are much less popular) there is an almost divinely portrayed protaginst who emobdies Objectivism in totality:
A faultess man. This is a concept in which I run into a lot of my beef with Rand. She claims that she has always held herself to her doctrine 100% of the time throughout her whole life. I understand that she's big on reason, which is great, so am I. But you can't tell me that you have never done anything unreasonable before in your life.
I would argue that a lot of the best parts of life are unreasonable. Humour is unreasonable. Love, sexual proclivity, things that make you roll your eyes and smile. Humanity loves a contradiction. Ever notice how great movie villains tend to contradict themselves or be conflicted in their descision making process?
I agree that reason is the best course of action for business and material pursuits, as well as for gaining knowledge, pursing justice, and resolving issues. You have to ground yourself in reason to efficiently and effectively do these things. Fart jokes are funny because they just are.
If you read this book, you'll notice right away that Rand's verbiage is just awkward. I want to take her to a nice lunch and leave her with the bill everytime she uses the phrase "lighted a cigarette". Some of her more adult-oriented passages are well done and evoke a good response from me. Others just sound painful, violent, and there's nothing sexier than something along the lines of "he kissed her effieciently as the loosely stressed dimensions of her dress unfurled incredulously" - not a quote, I don't have the book on me. You will incredulously see the wordincredulously every other page because that is her favorite word.
To the philisophy of Objectivism, which would be a better post for Oh The Humanites!, I'll briefly say that I agree with many, but not all of the principles and not to the nth degree of infinity as she does. Me not believing in 100% of her principles alone, literally makes me an untouchable in her view, and not worthy of life.
She is a purist, and the more I read, the more distanced I feel. To me, purists of any sort, whatever the position, tend to be complete asshole pricks incapable of empathy for any non-purist. She cannot see another point of view, therefor other points of view are not worthy of existing. What a shitty way to live, if I only talked to people I agreed with completely, I would talk to about 0 people. So would everyone else. I can empathize without agreeing with the opposing viewpoint. Rand cannot. She also ran out money and lived off SSI towards the end of her life but insisted she was consistent with her views.
It is a well written book, and is worth reading if your views fall within even distant earshot of the views of the intended audience. It remarkably doesn't lag either until the late second act. There are moments in the book that I have never seen done before in any medium that were extremely satisfying to read, and it deserves to be considered a modern classic, just one with several disclaimers attatched before picking it up.
