Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace
Yet still no stimulus check.
How are things looking in Canada? Is the government helping you at all?
I'm not eligible since I'm an unemployed wastoid on disability, but we've had pretty reliable emergency relief payments via CERB for most of the pandemic ($2000 a month in Canadian dollarettes). It was also not really regulated up front - I could have applied and received payments even though I was ineligible, because the Canadian government rightly determined that it was better to hand out money first and ask questions later. There was no vetting process. If you weren't eligible you'd just be on the hook for all the money you fraudulently received.
That's transitioning into a new $2000 benefit called the CRB.
None of this has been flawless in its execution (people are struggling with the new CRB program apparently) and god only knows how the fuck this is feasible with the budget our government has, but people have at least had the money to survive.
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Nevermind that the rest of the world is using the same sensitivity for the tests but whatever
Apparently these are only American problems. They give so many explanations that can easily be debunked by looking at the rest of the world.
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Originally posted by Obbe
He backed up his claims with sources.
Some of his claims. Not the claims I was disputing from that post. It's a typical deflection tactic. Just ignore the discussion and talk about what YOU want. This way you can discuss the strongest points of your argument while ignoring the weakest, which are what people are actually disputing.
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace
Flagrantly untrue. They don't get paid more for COVID deaths. Where the fuck did you hear that? Trump? Actually READ the CARES act and you'll see the only money hospitals got from the federal government was a 20% medicaid supplement. This is, the feds covering an additional 20% for all medicaid bills for all patients who test positive for COVID.
Here's the money for that. Both for the CARES act and the 2nd wave of 10 billion.
https://data.cdc.gov/Administrative/Provider-Relief-Fund-COVID-19-High-Impact-Payments/b58h-s9zx/data
Where's the money you're talking about? Where's the legislation that says hospitals get money 'for each death'?
This is complete bullshit lol. "CDC test kits" are not any different from the tests the rest of the world is using. If America's testing numbers are off, so is everyone else's. Clearly though, you have no idea what you're talking about. What you're thinking about are the very early molecular tests. We now have far more sophisticated antigen/antibody tests which are significantly more accurate.
I don't even know what to say about the rest of your post. It's just wild ass speculation and you come to a wild ass conclusion that '90% of the tests may be false positives' based on fucking what? Your own guesswork? Because you THINK it might be? You FEEL they aren't accurate?
I mean holy shit. The level of mental gymnastics you are going through to get to the conclusions you are getting is just insane. You have no evidence of any kind for anything you're saying. Where are your scientific studies showing the tests are 'wildly accurate'? Like you realize this is just a problem in modern medicine right? People get false positives for cancer. For other coronaviruses. For genetic diseases. Donut frosting gets mistaken for methamphetamines in reagent tests. I mean it's just a problem overall. Why is anybody pretending like the coronavirus tests are any different?
Even if 50% of the tests are false positives (which would be unrealistically inaccurate) the official CDC report (as in, the actual counted COVID deaths) is at like 210,000 dead in America, with it being more like 300,000 if you count the 'unexplained' spike in pnuemonia and heart attack. But let's assume the "real" number is 100k. That is still 10% of the COVID deaths for a country with 4% of the world's population.
Originally posted by aldra
I'm sure we've talked about it before, I know I've posted links and data
Basically hospitals will typically mark any death while a patient has tested positive for COVID as being caused by COVID. This is partially due to the lack of resources to perform an autopsy/verify cause of death for every casualty and partially because hospitals get paid out more (insurance) for COVID kills. This has lead to instances where people who died in car accidents, falls or violence being marked as COVID deaths because they had the virus concurrently.
In terms of testing, the initial CDC test kits had a 50% accuracy rate and it's not clear how much they've been improved since then. Current test kits carry the warning that they may register a positive for any coronavirus such as the common cold, rather than the specific COVID19 virus. Further it's recently been reported that the PCR tests used to detect the presence of the virus in the test kits has been such a high sensitivity (standard tests are run at sensitivity level 30, COVID tests are run at 40 with graduating steps) that they've been demonstrated to pick up inert and deactivated viruses and even stray genetic material that may or may not have even come from a coronavirus intially. Over 90% of tests are run at this absurdly high sensitivity, meaning that up to 90% of tests may have registered a false positive.
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2020-10-12 at 10:52 AM UTC
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You're all normie scum
aldra
JIDF Controlled Opposition
I am special: the thread
revision 82409
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That's a great looking kitchen. The lesbians living there are gonna love it bro.
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Originally posted by rabbitweed
If poor people follow your advice, they will stay poor and miserable forever.
You associate poorness with misery. It is possible to be poor
and happy. Lord knows I was pretty content when I was homeless - I had a homeless shelter to stay at and panhandled money to buy anything that I couldn't get for free. If poor people followed Obbe's advice, they'd stay poor for sure. They wouldn't be miserable though - they'd be
satisfied.
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Originally posted by rabbitweed
So the narrative for me now is that I need my parents approval? Been through that phase years ago.
If you can't see that I genuinely want peoples lives to be better and that they don't have to have drug addictions and work shit jobs, then you are being willfully blind.
If poor people follow your advice, they will stay poor and miserable forever.
Fagg
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Originally posted by rabbitweed
The 'we' was myself and soy, as I was talking to soy.
Obbe invokes an ill-defined 'we' and 'us' when talking to others to make his own thoughts appear more popular.
Normal talk:
"they really do hate us, don't they soy?"
Weakling talk:
"we don't like you and we all wish you would go away"
I know the above is probably wasted on you, but I'd still like to think I can teach an old dog new tricks in the only language she knows.
I knew you meant you and Soi. Just like you knew that Obbe meant all of “us”, the people who read the forums. All of
us that read the forums have read about your horrible life from your own mouth.
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Fonaplats
victim of incest
[daylong jump-start that nome]
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting
I'm shocked I'm not on the poll.
Delusional not hungry.
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Nil
African Astronaut
[the overexcited four-footed chanar]
I feel that income is a poor metric for the worth of an individual.
Have you created any art? Helped another person out or developed a new skill recently?
When did you read a book?
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Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting
Where do you even come up with this shit? Literally wrong on multiple levels.
Nigga shut the fuck up. The only yeast you've kept in your life is a yeast infection between your fat jelly rolls.
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Originally posted by Meikai
I thought you were a good commie boi. What happened to you, lanizzle?
I am, although Biden is a shit communist, socialist, hell he's even a pretty mediocre leftist even by American standards. After the DNC manage to fuck themselves hard on nominations two presidential elections in a row and learn absolutely nothing from the last four years the only thing left for me is to laugh at them and enjoy the schadenfreude of watching them pour vast amounts of wealth in to candidate "at least they're not trump" #2. The american leftist cause would be significantly advanced if someone bombed the DNC and managed to kill everyone involved.
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2020-09-29 at 1:23 AM UTC
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The Minecraft Fonaplats Army
so a while back the creeper gunpowder farm got blown up and someone yoinked all the fishing stuff and enchanted books from the adjacent mob grinding room and I think I just stumbled on the base of whoever took all the stuff because this stuff looks familiar and they have a dub full of pufferfish I think from the same stash
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2020-09-28 at 10:35 PM UTC
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Nice ass thread
Narc
Naturally Camouflaged
[connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
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1. Wear plain clothes
2. Knock on the door and say you're a cop
3. If they answer the door, tell them again that you're a cop serving a warrant and proceed to take and do whatever you want
4. If they dont answer, break in and say you're a cop. Have your weapon drawn. If the person is home, they will automatically believe you and wont resist or defend themselves. Proceed to take and do whatever you want.
5. Thank them for their cooperation and tell them you'll be in touch with them or some bullshit.
6. Repeat as many times as necessary
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You're just mad because you're a petulant child who throws temper tantrums and makes all the rest of us have to suffer through it every time Lanny boots your ass off of here.
Are you ever going to grow up?
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Originally posted by rabbitweed
I'm on more than that, and I'm terrified of the 30 year mortgage you'd get on that salary. Interest rates are at rock bottom, globally. How long will that last?
I feel like a lot of mortgage owners are in for a rude awakening in a few years.
I didn't say i wouldn't like to be making a million a year, but realistically you could live off of 70k a year quite comfortably.
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Originally posted by Speedy Parker
So becasue the left has been screaming, crying, and rioting for the last for years due to losing an election and I suggest that they will keep doing what they have been doing when they lose again that makes you think I acted that way in the past?
I think you're misinterpreting what I asked. I didnt say anything about crying and looting or anything like that. I was just wondering if your life was personally bad when Obama was president.
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Originally posted by Speedy Parker
What makes you think I might have?
Your suggestion that stl
will.
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