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2018-03-22 at 5:25 AM UTC in Let's talk more about driving under teh influenceAs a principle, I'd like to get out of similar offenses I might commit in the future using exactly this defense. But, in reality, any judge who's ever gotten high is going to see right through me.
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2018-03-22 at 5:09 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by benny vader mimosa pudica.
it closes once it feels you mollesting it like how little girl would close her once they notice you looking at their panties.
but not to water droplets hitting them.
That's fascinating, but are you suggesting that movement in plants is indicative of emotion? That would be an absurd leap, considering that the physical process is well understood and doesn't require what we'd consider 'feelings'.just becos you cant hear them scream no doesnt meant that they dont.
If there's one valuable grain of knowledge that would be preserved from our millennia of animal vivisection, it's how to observe every conceivable pain response. Plants don't appear to. -
2018-03-22 at 4:56 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatA postmodernist might suggest that our self-described moral superiority to animals is driven by a narcissistic urge to differentiate humanity from the animal kingdom which bore us, not unlike the project of monotheism.
WAS THAT ONE OF YOUR HIGH PREDICTIONS? I WILL GO KEVIN SPACEY ON YOUR TAINT. -
2018-03-22 at 4:53 AM UTC in what the actual shit. I think I may have been contacted by actual deep state agents.You should've started a really loud confrontation to attract the attention of people around you. Then you'd be able to explain what they were doing to an audience.
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2018-03-22 at 4:40 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Jeremus Zanick, you know I love you buddy but Benny ended it.
I've thought down the pathways of the argument. And this is a downhill battle. He will defeat you.
You realize why I can't take this statement at face value, don't you?
I'm also very high, toward the end of my session actually. I don't know if it makes me smart, but I like to send sensitive work/school emails when I'm stoned just to see if I can. Are you? -
2018-03-22 at 4:38 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatNo way man, I have plenty of fight in me and he's just getting started.
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2018-03-22 at 4:32 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by benny vader dont fight the dicktionaries. an ''agency'' is a provider, not a providee.
Moral agency is a philosophical concept, a status given to entities which sign the social contract. I argue that it fails to consider all moral agents, and that they should be recognized and protected in spite of this shortcoming.1- are you saying that animals are able to formulate the question ???
2- and neither can unborn fetuses and living retards
My point exactly. Animals react to painful stimuli with suffering, which is observable. They shouldn't need to ask us not to harm them when we know very well that slaughterhouses are now kept away from our residences for a reason. Plants, on the other hand, haven't expressed anything of the sort. Find me a plant that objects to my eating it. You probably can't, and for many of them, it's even a method of achieving fertilization.
Unborn fetuses and the severely retarded are examples I gave of humans who are granted moral agency, despite not being able to grasp the concept. Moral philosophers have agreed, for the most part, that you must be able to intentionally sign the social contract and exhibit rationality to be eligible for moral agency. If you're not able to understand that there is a social contract, or even identify things as right and wrong, then you aren't a moral agent. That should mean that babies, fetuses, and severely retarded people are similarly excluded, but they're given a pass. There is no explanation for this admission other than speciesism.the question has always been on whose part tho.
No, not really. You could say that convention would favor the side I'm attacking. There's no need for a standoff, I know I'm in the minority when I claim that you should reevaluate your position, and I'd like to think I've demonstrated that believing myself to be correct doesn't relieve me of the burden of proof. -
2018-03-22 at 4:03 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice thread
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2018-03-22 at 4:01 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by benny vader 1 - i dont thing youve used the term ''moral agency'' in the senses it was concocted.
Issue313 accused me of the same, and it's understandable given the standard definition. If you visit the first link I gave for the term, you'll find that I'm arguing explicitly that its use should be altered.2 - i was going by your own mantra that '' no single species would want to grow and asked to be killed'' thing.
Animals feel victimized by us, even though they cannot legally request protection. Plants can't even formulate the question.3 - it seems liek what you considers to be qualified as the thing you call ''moral agent'' is subjective, and subject to your whims and fancies.
Funnily enough, I made the exact same claim. If our criteria for moral agency aren't universally exhibited by those who meet it, it stands to reason that the criteria require adjustment. -
2018-03-22 at 3:56 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice threadtldrcockodilebundyBIG DICK TRILL NIGGAalmostdied
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2018-03-22 at 3:50 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice threadCOCKodileDundee
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2018-03-22 at 3:50 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice threadCOCKodile
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2018-03-22 at 3:48 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by benny vader i dont think theres a single species of plants that grows and plain simple asking to be killed.
i totally agrees with you and think that it should also be expanded to include plants. everytime i see a bigg tree being cut down it feels me with rage and anger.
everyday billion tons of thousand year old trees are being cut down in my island and for what ???
IKEA ????
You missed a highly productive conversation I had with Obbe about this very topic. I don't think they fit for consideration as moral agents, but there's a whole thread about how they respond to various stimuli that has a lot more information about it than we do in here. -
2018-03-22 at 3:45 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice threadWhat? There have to be more. TELL ME WHAT THEY ARE.
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2018-03-22 at 3:44 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice threadbundyHBR
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2018-03-22 at 3:44 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice threadweak, whyte
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2018-03-22 at 3:43 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice threadWow!
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2018-03-22 at 3:43 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice threadmasturbated
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2018-03-22 at 3:42 AM UTC in Official word enhancement practice threadalmostdied
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2018-03-22 at 3:38 AM UTC in The Retardest Thread: Fashionably Late Edition.I love the idea, but it would come with a lot of users who have never been on a forum before. When enough of them have congregated, we'd get shady as fuck retailers right behind them. Then scams start going down, and inevitably some of that would spill over into our special place. Is it possible that this is really a wonderful thing and I've just been cucked by Reddit and the government too many times? Either way, if we go for it I'm going to be a frequent poster.
