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Conflict Shitpile III - Diplomacy Defunct Edition
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2018-05-21 at 2:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra YEMEN - The Saudis and their mercenaries (I'm not sure where they're getting them from now) are making progress in northern Saada - they've taken several towns in a massive offensive; the question will now be how long they can sustain it.
the same place kadaffy found his own mercs: sub-saharan africa -
2018-05-21 at 2:24 PM UTC
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2018-05-21 at 2:54 PM UTC
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2018-05-21 at 4:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Yeah but Somalia stopped serving them because Yemeni troops were turning them into mince, they were in negotiations with Uganda for the Ugandan military to take their place but it was rejected
thats the idea. the saudi-yemenis are telling the saudis to fuck off because theyre nothing but cannon fodder. the non-saudi-yemenis are getting backing from other mudslimes (iran) to a high enough of a degree that its doing like you said...mincing the saudi-yemenis. -
2018-05-21 at 7:23 PM UTC
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2018-05-21 at 7:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock thats the idea. the saudi-yemenis are telling the saudis to fuck off because theyre nothing but cannon fodder. the non-saudi-yemenis are getting backing from other mudslimes (iran) to a high enough of a degree that its doing like you said…mincing the saudi-yemenis.
so do you have an idea where they goth their mercs now ??? -
2018-05-21 at 7:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader so do you have an idea where they goth their mercs now ???
the primary source is yemenis from any 'clan' who are willing to take the pay
the secondary sources split depending on the recruiter;
first: the saudis are 'adopting' sub-saharans with assorted means of motivation such as money, 'because allah said to come fight for mohammed', 'when youre done killing infidels (other mudslimes) you can live in the great city of mecca', etc
second: the 'west' is recruiting pretty much anyone via the typical blackwater-esque corporations. allegedly illegal immigrants from s.america/latin america are high on the list of dead bodies theyre scraping up out of the dirt. -
2018-05-21 at 8:23 PM UTCi wonder how many times had mercenaries won wars.
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2018-05-21 at 8:32 PM UTC
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2018-05-21 at 9:02 PM UTC
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2018-05-21 at 9:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader IDK, but from my recollection of histories, their the ones who fought and lost wars.
not always.
romans used 'em. everyone used them in the 1500s to about 1700s. a lot of venicians (whateverthefuck theyre called)used mercs before italy became a single country. then there was the hessians...
i think the crimean war is when everyone started with the 'fuck this shit, no more mercenaries'
technically the mayan-era s.americans 'drafted' villagers into their military but i dont know if they would count as slaves or mercenaries.
in modern times (post WW-II) there are no wars in africa without mercs. (that internecine shit doesnt count as a war...its just vermin killing each other) general butt naked, ffs. only niggers. -
2018-05-21 at 9:43 PM UTCMercenaries work great so long as they have an advantage over the enemy. That's why mercenaries are even a thing - mercenaries are associated with military technology and tactics, like pole-axes or gladius warfare or whatever. It's pretty cool - I mean why not be a mercenary if you have better weapons, armor and training than your opponents?
You don't really find mercenaries fighting in dumbass meat-grinder wars. For that you need the modern nation state, with their ability to round up, equip and lead to the slaughter millions of men. -
2018-05-21 at 10:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by oral colon cleanser Mercenaries work great so long as they have an advantage over the enemy. That's why mercenaries are even a thing - mercenaries are associated with military technology and tactics, like pole-axes or gladius warfare or whatever. It's pretty cool - I mean why not be a mercenary if you have better weapons, armor and training than your opponents?
You don't really find mercenaries fighting in dumbass meat-grinder wars. For that you need the modern nation state, with their ability to round up, equip and lead to the slaughter millions of men.
you should probably delete that post. all of it. every last character.
ill give you a little while to do so before i berate you relentlessly over how idiotic...and completely incorrect...everything you posted is. unless today is 'opposites' day where everything everyone posts is supposed mean the opposite of what reality really is...because then youd be right on target. -
2018-05-21 at 10:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock you should probably delete that post. all of it. every last character.
ill give you a little while to do so before i berate you relentlessly over how idiotic…and completely incorrect…everything you posted is. unless today is 'opposites' day where everything everyone posts is supposed mean the opposite of what reality really is…because then youd be right on target.
The way you change my name when quoting me is the most adorable thing about you. -
2018-05-21 at 10:30 PM UTC
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2018-05-21 at 11:19 PM UTCcan you imagine mowing down dozens of ill prepared african "mercenaries" invading your country? feels patriotic man.
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2018-05-21 at 11:49 PM UTC
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2018-05-22 at 6:37 PM UTC
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2018-05-22 at 7:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING You don't really find mercenaries fighting in dumbass meat-grinder wars.
lol, look a few posts up
the real question is, what do you do with mercs when you don't need them anymore? what will they do when they become experienced and efficient and you don't want to pay them anymore? how will you defend yourself if someone else pays them to attack you, considering you rely on them as a standing military? -
2018-05-23 at 4:05 AM UTCApparently the SDF has been stepping up their 'recruitment drive', and by that I mean they've been pressing so many people into service that they've started 'recruiting' minors, though I haven't been able to determine how young.
As a result tensions have been rising between them and the locals, in one case shopkeepers in Manbij have organised a strike and shut their doors, which the SDF responded to by opening fire into the shutters and raiding their stocks.
A number of locals who fled the fighting in Afrin have gotten so sick of the Kurds' shit that they tried to return to take their chances with the Turks - SDF fighters opened fire on them at a checkpoint and forced them to return to SDF-held territory.