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2017-05-10 at 8:11 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Do you think paying taxes is worth it?
Fuck no it isn't. Do you feel proud that so much of your money, especially in the US, has gone towards killing millions of civilians, ruining lives, countless nations, incarceration, abuse etc?
As for the poor, they're mainly poor because of economic illiteracy, policies that drive up cost of living, mainly housing and food, through the roof, and land use/zoning policies in major metropolitan cities. Read the book "The Gated City" to see how much damage the latter causes. "The Myth of the Rational Voter: Why Democracies Choose bad Policies" is another must read, and it was named by the New York Times (hate them) as one of the most important books of the year when it came out.
There are alternative ways of funding everything the government does, and life wouldn't be that different for most people once things developed properly. Just admit it, almost none of you are willing to the amount of reading that me and Sophie have, along with countless others. So just keep believing in your statist fantasies and hoping that one day the perfect people who agree with you on everything will somehow magically be voted into power, free from corruption, everyone who disagrees with you will change, and we'll all hold hands and sing kumbaya happily ever after. Let me know when it happens, because right now you would have to be incredibly oblivious to believe that the vast majority of people on earth live under statist systems that are incredibly destructive and horrendous.
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2017-05-10 at 8:07 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.God, I absolutely despise leftism and their arguments. And the unfortunate reality is that the vast majority of people are authoritarian statists to the core who will never change.
Fuck this world. I really do hope something similar one day arises.
Sophie, are you aware of this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_for_Employment_and_Economic_Development_(Honduras)
IIRC some important people from the Cato institute and other libertarians were working on it. Unfortunately Honduras is incredibly violent/dangerous and a pretty shitty place to live.
Who knows what future developments there may be, maybe seasteading will take off in a decade.
Have you also read about Liechtenstein? It's a fascinating country. Do a search for it on r/ancap or The Mises Institute, some libertarian website or keywords. What's really interesting is that Hans Hermann Hoppe is actually allegedly close friends with the king and strongly influenced his policies. If you read about what their laws are like, you'll see how brilliant it is. Possibly the most libertarian country on earth, and the closest towards moving toward anarcho-capitalism. Unfortunately due to the way the world is you have to have a government and ruler to be recognized and avoid being invaded because statists are fucking cunts that can't just let you live in peace and at least try to experiment with radically alternative different means of societal organization.
You know what, you're angry as hell like I am, and you're also brilliant, hard working, and have enormous perseverance. Your knowledge of chemistry is useful.
Do me a favor, if you ever feel like you're at the end of your rope and have reached the breaking point don't pull a McVeigh or Killdozer in a strategic manner targeting the people/buildings that deserve it the most.
Hi feds. Just trying to warn someone not to go down a dark path in life and do something so unethical. I'm practically a saint.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 6:50 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind They would have a right to attempt to arrest if you were benefiting from a system you were refusing to contribute to. You don't have to be part of their system.
They have no right to do shit, i never asked for any of this.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Why would you have to move to another country? Go live on a mountain. Go build a space station. Go live on a boat out at sea. Or hey, maybe you enjoy living where you are so much you could actively try to change the system, and make things better.
The point is i shouldn't fucking have to just to avoid being stolen from.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind "The Government will always be the government," lol so are you saying your ideal society is impossible? The thing you don't think even exists will always exist? There is no way for it to work in reality?
Don't be fucking coy with me. There is no fucking way for a single person to change the system. Also it's not impossible. here are some historical precedents that very closely resemble my ideal society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism#Historical_precedents_similar_to_anarcho-capitalism
Originally posted by Open Your Mind I think I agree with that because even if you managed to replace government with private companies, big business will eventually take over and become the new government.
And you know this how? Because you think so? Dank logic bro.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Of course there should be consequences. Do you provide services and resources to other people for free? If you are benefiting from a system, is it not fair that you contribute to that system? If someone is benefiting from the system you contribute to without contributing anything themselves, wouldn't you want them to face consequences?
I never asked for any of this, it was forced on me, forcing someone to do something is always wrong, period.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Your entire idea of what an ideal society should be is nothing but "imagine this" and "imagine that". The fact is that if you benefit from a system, it's only fair you contribute to that system. If you think the system is immoral it must be worth it to you to betray your moral philosophy, because you aren't doing anything to change it and continue to contribute to and support a system you believe is immoral.
The fact is you're not even listening to anything i am saying. What my ideal society would be is backed up by reasoning. And i already told you about "the system" and being forced to contribute to it.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 6:11 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Are you saying it wouldn't be worth it that wouldn't be worth it? But that isn't exactly a good metaphor, because the tax man doesn't have a gun to your head.
No the police do. Like i've said before, what happens when you don't pay taxes? You get a letter, what if you ignore it? You get a bench warrant. What if you don't show up? They will send the goon squad(police) after you. What happens when you resist these goons? They will shoot you.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind You have options. You could move
Name one country on Earth where there is no taxes.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind you could try to change the system
It doesn't matter what i do the government will always be the government.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind or you could deal with the consequences
There should not be any consequences to begin with, that's the entire issue here.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Imagine the gang already bought up/ eliminated all theit competition.
Yeah imagine a meteor struck your face right now. Check mate statist.
I can come up with all sorts of "what if" and "imagine that" situations. That still doesn't mean taking my money without my consent is morally right.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 5:47 PM UTC in I gave drugs to my sister's kid tonight
Originally posted by mmQ Why does this do that? Mutation ?
Now this is a story all about how
Life gets flipped-turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of the Junior Science Fair.
In the ocean is where it was born and raised
Copying itself is how it spent most of it's days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
bunch of DNA in a big swimming pool
When a couple of strands who were up to no good
Started making trouble in the neighborhood
They got one little flaw and the host cell got scared
It said, "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air."
It begged to stay the same day after day
But it turns out the mutation was kind of ok
The difference made survival better it was the ticket.
"I'll become another species so I might as well kick it."The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 5:12 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind It must be worth it to you though. If it wasn't worth it, you would either move somewhere else, try to change the system, or you would deal with the consequences of not paying.
There is no question of "worth it" if i put a gun to your head and rob you of all you have and let you live in return would you say: "Lol that was worth it."
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Now if you got to decide to give your money to some gang claiming to offer you "protection" instead of paying taxes to a government, do you get to decide what they spend it on?
If i got to buy private security, or pay into a mutual security fund of course i would decide what i get to spend it on. Because A) nobody is making me buy private security and B) i can fire my private security and hire another firm if my security people fuck up, or spend my contribution in a way i don't agree with. Try firing the police.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 4:56 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind It wouldn't be right for you to benefit from a system you don't contribute to, either. As long as you are going to be a part of a society that provides services and benefits in exchange for your taxes, it seems only fair that you pay those taxes.
Yet, i don't have a say in what my tax money is spent on. Would it be ok if i just came to your house grabbed 200 bucks out of your wallet bought food for you for 50 dollars, then proceeded to spend the rest of the money on whatever the fuck? Of course it would not be right for me to do so, even if i spent the 200 dollars entirely on you alone. Because i don't get to decide what is right for you and what you need nor did you ever consent to me taking the money in the first place. It is morally wrong.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 3:18 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind What are you less right about? I was just curious if you think taxes are worth it. Clearly you do, as you file your taxes every year and continue to do nothing to change that.
I think doing my taxes is a small price to pay in order for the government to not fuck with me. But that doesn't make it right that the government would fuck with me if i didn't in the first place.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 3:04 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-05-10 at 1:40 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind You could always move to somewhere where you don't have to pay taxes. Are those your only options, move or die or pay taxes? I guess when it comes down to it, you value your life/area you live in more than you value your moral philosophy.
Impossible in a globalist UN controlled earth and if you try to start your own space colony and survive by selling meteors with tonnes of drugs to earth for supplies they would probably justify killing you in space for not paying taxes too.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 12:22 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.i'll take that bet.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-05-10 at 12:01 PM UTC in Your daily reminder.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind So if once a year, at the same time every year, a man came to your house and robbed you, you would just keep on paying him because he "makes" you?
No because in a stateless society i would shoot him in the fucking face. It doesn't matter how many police officers i shoot the government is going to escalate until i comply or die.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Aren't you the one who keeps saying the government isn't real and laws are just opinions?
Yep, but the people that work for what we call the government are real and so are their bullets.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 9:36 AM UTC in Rocklin is on suicide watch
Originally posted by Dargo Thanks. What do you mean by this though?
Basically one of Arnox's mods had admin privileges (was this a website vulnerability? Can't remember) and banned him, modded a lot of the regular users, and they all just started deleting shit, posting his PI and posting CP and reporting it to the police
Idio was the other person who had admin privileges and did nothing to stop them.
After that happened, said mod insisted that he was hacked, but it happened twice more after that before Arnox realized what was going on. Idio later became admin of rdfrn
Post last edited by Kolokol-1 at 2017-05-10T09:39:04.944629+00:00The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 9:22 AM UTC in To Plant a Seed is Not to Be a Gardener. The Tragedy of the Child of Bill Krozby.We've got some dense derpadews hanging out in this thread.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-05-10 at 9:05 AM UTC in Rocklin is on suicide watchThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-05-10 at 8:13 AM UTC in Only pedos will appreciate thisThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-05-10 at 5:56 AM UTC in teh retraded thred herppppp slober fuk glum editshinOh, I'll probably get over it and feel different one day. I'm just severely depressed, autistic, and fucked up.
I had a thought a while ago, not sure if I posted it here, that the end of the novel Steppenwolf could be interpreted as having received the death penalty for taking life too seriously, as opposed to treating it as a game and accepting the absurdity. There are some people who literally do end up committing suicide or driving themselves insane because they took life too seriously.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-10 at 4:40 AM UTC in teh retraded thred herppppp slober fuk glum editshin
Originally posted by Malice Not entirely serious to be honest, although I am still kind of irked. I know I'm extremely oversensitive.
Pretty much just upset about not being liked.
Good god, am I acting like a woman?
Post last edited by Malice at 2017-05-10T04:29:49.162560+00:00
You're acting like a 15 yr old girl who was forced out of peer pressure to smoke at least 5 heavy bong rips in order to fit in with the 20 others partyting with you but it induces severe extreme anxiety disorder and you literally run from the house as fast and far as you can and pull the typewriter your grandma gave you out of your backpack and write all your trt posts regarding the event in a journal.
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2017-05-10 at 4:37 AM UTC in Your daily reminder.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-05-10 at 4:28 AM UTC in teh retraded thred herppppp slober fuk glum editshinThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
