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2019-09-23 at 10:08 PM UTC in Why does DTE moan so loud during sex?
Originally posted by mmQ Check it out Dawg, this game is a motherfuckin' trip man
Word on the streets
Everybody always tryin' to run up on me
Hollerin' about word on the streets is this nigga said this
Man I don't give a fuck about what that nigga said man
That's what's wrong with you niggas, you niggas is just like bitches
Ho-ass niggas, talk too motherfuckin' much (speak)
Study your own, get your own, you know what I'm sayin'?
Be independent nigga, beotch
I meet more bitch niggas than hoes.
Look here, and I really don't know, but that's just how it go.
Dawg, so many niggas like to keep up shit.
And just like a bitch, these niggas talkin' shit. -
2019-09-23 at 9:01 AM UTC in I just spent ~1 hour drinking by the train tracks with a self-proclaimed "brony" talking about Call of Duty, DnD, and 4chan...WTF are all these things?
I even told her... I know of these things.
1st person shooter.
Card-based 20-sided dice game.
Something about ponies...
I feel so out of touch, but I am proud of the fact that I actually recognize all these things on some level.
But I always thought a "Brony" was a male horse, cuz... you know... "BRO"-ny?
I just don't understand the world anymore.
She was a cool chick tho.
This is only a reflection on my own lack of worldly connection. -
2019-09-18 at 8:37 PM UTC in I still hate fat people
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2019-09-18 at 8:09 PM UTC in HEY, DICK;git checkout HEAD
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2019-09-17 at 4:34 AM UTC in A real solution to World Hunger
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2019-09-17 at 4:32 AM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny thats the point of this thread, to make trustable cameras cheap and readily available to the masses.
with blockhain technology. unless you have a better idea.
What you're getting at is, in my opinion, an idea quite possibly worth pursuing.
But you need more than just blockchain.
Blockchain provides one particular piece: assurance of integrity that video A and timestamp Y are indistubably linked.
The problem, which has been brought up ITT, is that the integrity of the video itself is not guaranteed by this mechanism.
Blockchain is invaluable for proving sequences of events, but not necessarily that these events are genuine.
Now, with completely freshly designed device hardware, you essentially delegate the trust to a higher authority, but you still have to trust that authority.
But yes, ultimately, I do believe the idea has potential, it's just that it can only solve more and more problems by adding more and more dependent technologies.
It's a start though. -
2019-09-15 at 9:17 PM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Even video tampering.
You could be right. I don't even really care necessarily about the police body cam situation.
I was just giving an example in which blockchain can accomplish something that might potentially be of value.
Constantly streaming video feeds from already at-least somewhat reputable entities can provide an additional layer of trust.
It solves a very specific business / real-world problem, but it is not a complete cure for malicious video manipulation of all kinds. -
2019-09-15 at 8:05 PM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
Originally posted by Lanny Don't think you can do it. There's nothing I can do the make you trust that a video I say is authored by my camera really was. We could prove that it's my camera attesting to having captured a video, but you can't trust that I didn't just find a video and then have my camera attest in some way to having captured it, the reason being that you fundamentally can't trust my hardware to report that it did something, you have to assume I have control over the behavior of it.
I do kinda wonder if it would be possible to engineer a whole new kind of camera with encrypted metadata built in that can't be altered by the end user. Basically, a camera designed specifically to be a trusted camera.
It could even be entirely cloud based - no USB connections or SD card slot.
Initiating a video could even require a handshake to even start the recording function.
I dunno, I feel like there have got to be ways to make a camera at least more trustable, for more critical applications like Vinny is talking about - not necessarily for your average person just looking to film their kids birthday party or their summer vacation. -
2019-09-15 at 7:37 PM UTC in National Socialism vs American republicAmerican Socialism.
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2019-09-15 at 7:27 PM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.Deepfakes aren't really technically "editing". It's creating something brand new and indistinguishable from an original video.
Deepfakes will not be solved by what Vinny is proposing, as like a dozen people have already pointed out.
I'm talking about the only potential use case for blockchain here. -
2019-09-15 at 7:22 PM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Listen, muckwit. Do you think either police or private security tapes are gonna be fucking deepfaked and re-entered into their records? Is your brain broken? You think the issue with police bodycams is video editing? It ain't. It's "malfunctions" and "obstructions".
In Vinny's OP he talks about video tampering. Where the fuck did deepfakes even come into this?
Fucking troglodyte. -
2019-09-15 at 11:34 AM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Retard. Try to read this very carefully: what is preventing someone from recording a conventional video, taking it, then uploading it as of it was just filmed now? How about taking a fake video and recording it with the camera so it's still an unedited file of faked footage?
We're not talking some random idiot like you walking around recording shit.
CCTV and body cams clearly implies either government, or possibly private security organization, performing professional surveillance.
There is clearly going to be existing infrastructure and chain of custody that can also be tracked.
Try reading between the lines so you don't look like a complete asshat. -
2019-09-15 at 8:02 AM UTC in Members I'd beat the living shit out of extremely easily
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2019-09-15 at 7:10 AM UTC in Members I'd beat the living shit out of extremely easilyI can't believe I just read this entire thread.
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2019-09-15 at 5:45 AM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke The difference being that a fake file can be what you are checking against. How do you know I didn't just upload the checksum of a deepfake? Who says it has anything to do with editing a video in real time?
If the video is SAVED in real time, then there's zero opportunity to produce a deepfake. -
2019-09-15 at 5:44 AM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
Originally posted by aldra the problem with that is forcing every video creation and change to create a hash and push it to the blockchain
Yeah there would definitely be some logistics to work out.
I guess the half baked idea I kinda have in my head is that there would be some kind of mechanism like follows (in pseudocode):
# arbitrarily choosing an hour interval, measured in milliseconds #
VIDEO_UNIT_INTERVAL = 3600000
while True:
if video.length > VIDEO_UNIT_INTERVAL:
save_to_government_database(video)
checksum = hash(video)
save_to_blockchain(checksum)
video = new Video()
Or a new video could be started for every new case the police or whatever respond to. -
2019-09-15 at 1:09 AM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
Originally posted by SBTlauien This is a good question. Maybe a reputation system…?
Reputation systems are an incredibly common use case for blockchain technology, but I'm not so sure it would apply here or even be necessary.
But it's good to bring up different ideas that could potentially spark even more ideas.
For some reason, though, Captain Faggot prefers to shut ideas down with insults rather than explore them because he's got the imagination of an autistic duck. -
2019-09-15 at 12:56 AM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.You can't fucking edit video in real time, dumbass.
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2019-09-15 at 12:56 AM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
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2019-09-15 at 12:54 AM UTC in ATTN : Lanny, aldra, sophie, other coders.
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Hey retard… All it ensures is that the video is the same video, not that the video is authentic. How is a Blockchain necessary?
Hey retard...
Originally posted by gadzooks Come to think of, though, you don't really need to ensure integrity of each checksum I guess, because you can't really fake a checksum.
But by using a blockchain instead of a database to store all the checksums, you do get the benefit of data persistence, since the checksums will be stored on potentially millions of hard drives around the world.
And also, that means anyone can check and validate the integrity of any given video with a much higher degree of confidence.
