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2018-03-09 at 9:58 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-03-09 at 9:56 PM UTC in -SpectraL is a phony: definitive proof. Link him to this thread whenever he spouts his shit.
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2018-03-09 at 9:46 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by infinityshock the logical endgame is you heavily medicated in an in-patient facility with no windows and locks on the doors that you don't have a key to.
personification of inanimate objects is a mental disorder. wanting to give them rights is delusions of grandeur.
the next opportunity I get to abuse an animal, I want you to know my motivation is your discomfort, not that of the animal.
Yeah, get yourself arrested for animal cruelty. I'm sure you'll enjoy the visitors who come to see you after the police blotter is published. That will show me. -
2018-03-09 at 9:43 PM UTC in -SpectraL is a phony: definitive proof. Link him to this thread whenever he spouts his shit.
Originally posted by -SpectraL Trying to get you to say your taboo word.
And how would you know my word? You aren't in the game, which means you're either lying or you're a hired gun - hired by someone desperate enough to trick me that they sought to enlist you. That narrows it down considerably, but if you can be swayed to betray this person, I would be very appreciative. -
2018-03-09 at 9:40 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by inb4l0pht Stimulates the pleasure centers of my brain, which is a collection of atoms that create an emergent consciousness, 'me'.
This is a distinctly monistic ontology. You aren't avoiding philosophy with your arguments, you're joining in. I think you'll like it.Egoism is to moral philosophy as atheism is to monotheistic religion.
Not really. Atheism proposes that there is no god, which is a philosophical position that denies taking a religious one. Egoism, on the other hand, is a valid way of philosophically examining your moral choices. Is there a specific strain of egoism that you find particularly appealing? -
2018-03-09 at 9:35 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by infinityshock you mean like giving animals the same rights that humans have
That is the logical endgame of my argument, yes. My position is one of abolition, which means I believe animals should be granted moral agency and our exploitative relationship with them should be formally severed in a manner that also supplies them with legal rights, to prevent further abuse. Other animal rights activists might subscribe to what we call welfarists, and basically, that means that they don't think we need to stop raising pets, livestock, etc. but rather that we should minimize their suffering wherever possible. There's a pretty big divide among those who believe in animal rights as to which of these positions is most appropriate, but when we get into particular cases, there is also a lot of room for overlap. I hope that provides some clarity for those of you who actually do read this post, and to the poster I quoted above, I wish I believed in a Hell you could go to when you die, but just knowing you'll never draw another breath will hopefully be enough. -
2018-03-09 at 9:27 PM UTC in -SpectraL is a phony: definitive proof. Link him to this thread whenever he spouts his shit.
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2018-03-09 at 9:23 PM UTC in -SpectraL is a phony: definitive proof. Link him to this thread whenever he spouts his shit.
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2018-03-09 at 9:22 PM UTC in My Colorado tripDaily isn't a failure, she's a shitty psychiatrist with book deals on the horizon.
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2018-03-09 at 9:21 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-03-09 at 9:20 PM UTC in -SpectraL is a phony: definitive proof. Link him to this thread whenever he spouts his shit.
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2018-03-09 at 9:18 PM UTC in -SpectraL is a phony: definitive proof. Link him to this thread whenever he spouts his shit.
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2018-03-09 at 9:16 PM UTC in -SpectraL is a phony: definitive proof. Link him to this thread whenever he spouts his shit.I'm so glad it's done. I've waited nearly a decade for this.
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2018-03-09 at 6:43 PM UTC in Why we should be giving rats cough syrupThat sounds very expensive and messy.
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2018-03-09 at 5:45 PM UTC in Going to a gay club tomorrow night?
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2018-03-09 at 3:58 PM UTC in What (now dead) historical figure would you want to be friends with?I would probably get along great with Hitler. We could do drugs together and talk about our vegetarianism and comparative mythology.
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2018-03-09 at 3:54 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Issue313 Would you look up Moral Agency?
FFS.
Yes, I have a basic understanding of what constitutes moral agency. I'm trying to persuade you that it doesn't work the way you think it does. You've granted moral agency to all humans, and revoked it from all (or most) animals - correct? The problem with this is that there are humans who lack rationality, one of the alleged requirements for moral agency, and animals who demonstrate other qualities that ought to be considered in establishing agency, namely the aversion to suffering. My argument is that, unless you have some special trick up your sleeve which makes humans that are otherwise incapable of moral judgment neatly fit under the umbrella of moral agency, I think it's you who has to do a little bit more work on the concept. -
2018-03-09 at 3:32 PM UTC in Great memories about games?Making comparison stat charts to determine which six Pokémon I can fit together to have an airtight team. I'm ashamed to say that it might be the most math I've ever done recreationally.
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2018-03-09 at 3:29 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Issue313 People like you are cattle for the powerful.
The people I meet who attach themselves to this kind of ideology are not the sort of people who would make good cattle herders. If "people like me" are ever completely dominated, the rest of you will be eating one another within the span of a generation.Have you ever thought that maybe you are not as smart as you think you are?
I've wondered it often. I think most reasonably intelligent people do. Most people whose opinions matter to me tell me that I'm smarter than I think, though, and I think we should all try to listen to the people in our lives who encourage us.
You still haven't given a reason why animals lack moral agency whereas infants and the mentally retarded are considered to have it. If you can't demonstrate why some beings which lack moral judgment can be said to have moral agency and why other beings who lack it cannot, then you have no business telling me where the term rightly belongs. -
2018-03-09 at 3:20 PM UTC in Unironically, one of the best bands of all time...Is this the origin of narc's homosexuality? Did he catch it, like pox? These questions and more answered later tonight on The Enter Show on Fox!
