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2020-01-26 at 3:39 AM UTC in Do you think child abuse is a good thing?There's better ways. According to the US gov't, water boarding isn't torture. More like giving someone a bath. So you should be ok.
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2020-01-26 at 3:37 AM UTC in Drug legalization thread
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2020-01-26 at 3:36 AM UTC in All OTC medicines should be BANNEDYes spectral. And that's where codeine overdoses come from. I'm not denying that codeine overdoses happen. I'm saying you're 10x more likely to overdose on APAP.
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2020-01-26 at 3:20 AM UTC in All the DH girls are fat
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2020-01-26 at 3:18 AM UTC in All OTC medicines should be BANNEDAgain, check your stats. Only 10% of those people died from codeine alone. 90% were mixed drug toxicity. Of those mixed drugs, APAP was responsible half the time. Meaning there's triple the APAP deaths from the codeine statistics alone. Now add APAP where there was no codeine present, and you'll find out that 10x the people die from APAP than from codeine.
Codeine should be OTC, APAP should be banned. It's weak medical use, mostly recommended by soccer moms for the placebo effect, doesn't justify it's death toll. -
2020-01-26 at 3:16 AM UTC in Drug legalization thread
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Inb4 someone says 'national socialist party' even though he defunded existing socialist systems and sold them off to private companies. Such as steel manufacturing and the railroads, which obviously benefited GREATLY during the war.
Huh? What? Socialist programs in Nazi Germany were of course only available to German citizens. How will socialism work when there's no unity in the country and everybody's just looking to max out their welfare? -
2020-01-26 at 3:08 AM UTC in Drug legalization thread
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Socialists are the FIRST people to want to help the world and feed all the starving children in Africa. There is no such thing as a non globalized leftist anymore.
Which is why Hitler believed socialism should be restricted to, and went hand in hand, with the nation. -
2020-01-26 at 2:58 AM UTC in Last show you went to?Mine was Dead and Co, at the Gorge. Anyone wanna go with me this year?
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2020-01-26 at 2:44 AM UTC in Drug legalization thread
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I can feel the regulatory agencies cringing already. They would have to work non stop revoking and giving out licenses, oh god the money THE MONEY
There is no way they would ever profit, the systems you would need to control the market in such a way would be impossible to pay for and always be a loss, with minimal positive effect.
Regulations are very expensive and anyone that supports them better have an airtight way to keep it funded besides LOL THE GOVERNMENT CAN PAY FOR IT WITH COCAINE AND HEROIN PROFITS.
What are you talking about? The drugs are already regulated. We put people who use them in jail. USA spends 81 billion annually on housing inmates. 22% of those inmates are drug related. By legalizing and licensing drugs you free up near 20 billion dollars already from PRISON alone. Now take court cases, investigations, sting operations, appeals, state provided lawyers, etc. The cost isn't only in money. The cost is in HUMAN LIFE as well. With both police officers, drug dealers, and innocents. And not just lives lost, but the amount of damage done by people going to prison to never get a well paying job again etc.
Again you're retarded for thinking that prohibition will cost more then legalization.
Also a lot of welfare money would go directly back to the gov't instead of drug dealers. -
2020-01-26 at 1:39 AM UTC in Drug legalization thread
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood And how do you expect society to pay for all these programs and licensing? More taxes? The profits of a legal psychoactive drug market would cover the medical costs but the red tape you propose sounds very expensive.
Government spending is bad
Government is spending way more money on locking up all those people. The cost of administering these programs is negligible in comparison. Fact of the matter is it's not governments job to tell any adults what to put into their bodies. Though if you act like a child, you get your license revoked. Just like with marijuana, alcohol or tobacco taxation, the gov't would actually be making money off this program. You know how many trillions of dollars of drugs are sold on the black market? You'd have to be retarded to think that legalization is going to cost more than prohibition.
Could buy cocaine directly from the colombian gov't and sell it. This would eliminate cartels at the source. You'd not just be saving your own people tax money, you'd be doing the world a favour. Party people wouldn't have to be afraid of the cops. Dealers wouldn't get shot and robbed by their rivals or even by their customers. There's be no more blood. Enough people have died in the war on drugs. It's time to end it. As far as I'm concerned, each and every fentanyl OD is the government's fault as they're the ones with the power to do something, and if it weren't for their laws nobody would be using fentanyl. -
2020-01-26 at 1:19 AM UTC in All OTC medicines should be BANNED
Originally posted by -SpectraL "The overall rate of codeine-related deaths increased from 3.5 per million in 2000 to 8.7 per million in 2009. Deaths attributed to accidental overdoses were more common (48.8%) than intentional deaths (34.7%), and their proportion increased during the study period."
https://www.mja.com.au/system/files/issues/203_07/10.5694mja15.00183.pdf
Codeine's LD50 is 800mg. APAP is 7 grams. 12 full strength pills of APAP can kill you. You'd need 25x30mg codeine pills to kill you. The APAP in the codeine pills is likely to kill you first. Go to the 'research' point of the article you posted.
Mixed drug toxicity 1201 (83.7%)
Codeine toxicity 113 (7.8%)
Your article proves that it's the APAP in the codeine that's killing them. Codeine will simply make you stop breathing. APAP will give you a severe and painful death. Considering most were accidental overdoses, those people were trying to cope with pain. Had they had access to codeine without APAP, or a stronger opiate, they might be alive today. -
2020-01-25 at 9:49 PM UTC in Seattle Mass Shooting
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2020-01-25 at 9:47 PM UTC in how to prove mailman is stealing my mailtldr ship a GPS tracker
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2020-01-25 at 7:33 PM UTC in My corona disease
Originally posted by Technologist Why do we always get these shit diseases from Asian countries? IIRC SARS came from japan. Now this shit from China? Their people walk around in masks all the time, they shouldn’t get this shit. Are they just plain dirty people?
You get shithole diseases from shithole countries. We should have nothing to do with them. Setup an iron curtain around the west. -
2020-01-25 at 7:28 PM UTC in Drug legalization thread
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood SO what you want people to have a license for tylenol? that would stop all the overdoses like what Japan does
Only for drugs which can be abused.
APAP should be by prescription only due to it's low LD50. Surely many people have died trying to get the effects from codeine when they're in extreme pain just to OD on APAP. Pure codeine should be sold over the counter. Abuse potential for codeine by itself is minimal. If you get addicted to codeine, you could go take a course on morphine and get your morphine license.
Under the current system, you get addicted to codeine, you go to the street to buy fent, and you fucking die. -
2020-01-25 at 7:10 PM UTC in Seattle Mass Shooting
Originally posted by -SpectraL
Unfortunately for us here in Canada guns are outlawed for self defence. As is mace or knives. Your pistol goes to the range and back.
Only once an armed intruder has entered your house, are you allowed to unlock your pistol, load it, then go deal with the intruder. And then only if he has a gun. Shooting a guy with a knife may not be considered 'reasonable force' by the judge. -
2020-01-25 at 7:05 PM UTC in All OTC medicines should be BANNED
Originally posted by -SpectraL They even sell codeine over the shelf, an opiate which has killed millions, and they don't even bat an eyelash. Anything for the $$$.
They just changed the regulations. I believe since January 1st, 2020 you require a prescription for liquid codeine. Probably some kids got into it and downed a bottle.
People die from the APAP in Tylenol pills, not from the codeine. Hell that's the entire purpose of the APAP, to kill people who try to abuse it. Then you've got those poor bastards who attempt an ice water extraction, fail, then OD on APAP. -
2020-01-25 at 7:03 PM UTC in The Metric System is Too Hard to Imagine.There's three types of people in America who use metric:
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- Immigrants
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2020-01-25 at 8:46 AM UTC in The Metric System is Too Hard to Imagine.Yes we do have a funny situation in Canada. Officially metric. Gas stations and road signs are. Hospital visits are.
Construction sites aren't. We get a lot of building materials from the USA and ship a lot to the USA. If we started manufacturing plywood and 2x4s in metric we'd fuck up our markets.
When I do framing work, I'll use standard. When I'm doing tile work (or working with tile which are 600mm etc.) I'll use metric. Not to mention the tiling tools are all in metric as they're European.
I do wish the USA could finally just go metric so we can get it over and done with. -
2020-01-25 at 8:39 AM UTC in Drug legalization thread
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace How do you think they should be sold. Everything available over 18?
I have always maintained that people should have to get a license to purchase certain drugs. Cheap class and certification fee, then you can buy a limited amount (just so you don't traffic it.)
Say, 2oz of weed a month or something. A 10 strip of LSD monthly. Etc.
This way it makes it scarce and there are little to no second hand sales.
And if any adult can go and get a reasonable monthly supply, no need for an illegal market.
Ya I've been proposing this idea for a while. Naturally if you're abusing the drug, the license could be revoked.
Same would go with alcohol. If you're caught drinking and driving, you lose your alcohol license.
What happens when somebody loses their driver's license?
They lose their job, their girlfriend and their house. End up on their asses with only the bottle as comfort.
What happens when somebody loses their drinking license?
They must go shamefully beg family and friends to buy them booze.
Also I believe drunks would be more fearful of losing their drinking license.
