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All OTC medicines should be BANNED

  1. #21
    thats what im saying fam cuz we b too busy handing things under the count nawmsayin
  2. #22
    Splam African Astronaut
    Originally posted by -SpectraL They even sell codeine over the shelf, an opiate which has killed millions, and they don't even bat an eyelash. Anything for the $$$.

    They just changed the regulations. I believe since January 1st, 2020 you require a prescription for liquid codeine. Probably some kids got into it and downed a bottle.
    People die from the APAP in Tylenol pills, not from the codeine. Hell that's the entire purpose of the APAP, to kill people who try to abuse it. Then you've got those poor bastards who attempt an ice water extraction, fail, then OD on APAP.
  3. #23
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    I don't understand why they put caffeine in the codeine pills all it does it make me want to drink to take the stimulant feeling off but they also put tylenol in it so what are they trying to tell me???? that I should kill myself?? If there was no caffeine I wouldn't need to chug the pills with vodka.

    Why is it okay to encourage people to kill themselves? I don't get it.
  4. #24
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood MILLIONS
    WHAT A RETARD

    "The overall rate of codeine-related deaths increased from 3.5 per million in 2000 to 8.7 per million in 2009. Deaths attributed to accidental overdoses were more common (48.8%) than intentional deaths (34.7%), and their proportion increased during the study period."

    https://www.mja.com.au/system/files/issues/203_07/10.5694mja15.00183.pdf
  5. #25
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    That's fake as fuck. Imagine dying from codeine lmrao
  6. #26
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    I've tried to kill myself with codeine and alcohol and all it did was make my tummy hurt a bit.
  7. #27
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Codeine helped me with pain lots of times.

    But I suppose keeping more and more human beings alive is all that matters in the world.
  8. #28
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    If they wanted us to be alive they wouldn't put caffeine and tylenol in the codeine. Same with only selling bundy with lethal amounts of additives, it has nothing to do with preventing abuse because their way of preventing it is by causing bodily harm to their customers who 'misuse' their products.

    CCC's are the governments way of telling us we should all just kill ourselves and OD on drugs. I got the message, if you get high society thinks you are better off dead. Nobody actually cares about the opioid epidemic. Once all the drug users die there will be nobody to fight eradication of all psychoactive substances from the face of the earth.

    We are a dying breed.
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  9. #29
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    "If you abuse codeine you basically deserve to die from having acetaminophen destroy your liver."
  10. #30
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Teenagers are abusing cough syrup? let's just spike it with some shit that will kill them if they take too much YEAH YEAH THAT WILL SHOW THOSE LITTLE FUCKERS FOR TRYING TO CUCK OUR BOTTOM LINE
    PRAISE MOLOCH!!

  11. #31
    Splam African Astronaut
    Originally posted by -SpectraL "The overall rate of codeine-related deaths increased from 3.5 per million in 2000 to 8.7 per million in 2009. Deaths attributed to accidental overdoses were more common (48.8%) than intentional deaths (34.7%), and their proportion increased during the study period."

    https://www.mja.com.au/system/files/issues/203_07/10.5694mja15.00183.pdf

    Codeine's LD50 is 800mg. APAP is 7 grams. 12 full strength pills of APAP can kill you. You'd need 25x30mg codeine pills to kill you. The APAP in the codeine pills is likely to kill you first. Go to the 'research' point of the article you posted.

    Mixed drug toxicity 1201 (83.7%)
    Codeine toxicity 113 (7.8%)

    Your article proves that it's the APAP in the codeine that's killing them. Codeine will simply make you stop breathing. APAP will give you a severe and painful death. Considering most were accidental overdoses, those people were trying to cope with pain. Had they had access to codeine without APAP, or a stronger opiate, they might be alive today.
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  12. #32
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Yeah if you die from codeine you have to be extra retarded god damn
  13. #33
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Splam … Codeine will simply make you stop breathing…

    Sounds like that would be a real problem in staying alive.
  14. #34
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Yeah if you die from codeine you have to be extra retarded god damn

    You can overdose and die on any opiate.
  15. #35
    Splam African Astronaut
    Again, check your stats. Only 10% of those people died from codeine alone. 90% were mixed drug toxicity. Of those mixed drugs, APAP was responsible half the time. Meaning there's triple the APAP deaths from the codeine statistics alone. Now add APAP where there was no codeine present, and you'll find out that 10x the people die from APAP than from codeine.

    Codeine should be OTC, APAP should be banned. It's weak medical use, mostly recommended by soccer moms for the placebo effect, doesn't justify it's death toll.
  16. #36
    Originally posted by -SpectraL You can overdose and die on any opiate.

    Lol if you take enough of anything it'll kill you

    Good luck trying to OD on apomorphine or codamine tho.

    Codeine is pussy ass shit. If you overdose on it you were probably trying to.
  17. #37
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL You can overdose and die on any opiate.

    Darwinism is great
  18. #38
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Some patients are very effective converters of codeine to its active form, morphine, resulting in lethal blood levels.

    n Canada tablets containing 8 mg of codeine combined with 15 mg of caffeine and 300 mg of acetaminophen are sold as T1s (Tylenol Number 1) without a prescription. A similar tablet called "A.C. & C." (which stands for Acetylsalicylic acid with Caffeine and Codeine) containing 325–375 mg of acetylsalicylic acid (Aspirin) instead of acetaminophen is also available without a prescription. Codeine combined with an antihistamine, and often caffeine, is sold under various trade names and is available without a prescription. These products are kept behind the counter and must be dispensed by a pharmacist who may limit quantities.

    In adults, ingestion of 7 to 14 mg/kg may cause death. Ingestion of more than 1 mg/kg of codeine in children is capable of producing symptoms, and doses more than 5 mg/kg have caused respiratory arrest. The lethal dose is between 500 mg and 1 g.

    https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Codeine#section=Reported-Fatal-Dose
  19. #39
    Splam African Astronaut
    Yes spectral. And that's where codeine overdoses come from. I'm not denying that codeine overdoses happen. I'm saying you're 10x more likely to overdose on APAP.
  20. #40
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Splam Yes spectral. And that's where codeine overdoses come from. I'm not denying that codeine overdoses happen. I'm saying you're 10x more likely to overdose on APAP.

    A single gram of codeine will kill you.
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