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2018-12-24 at 2:12 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by DietPiano Jesus Christ. Okay, again,
Here is an example like you were giving me earlier: If you want to get paid for delivering soup, you should bring the soup to the customer.
Okay, that above ^^ statement is pointless and redundant.
If you want to get paid for delivering soup, you will deliver it. Or you won't.
Should is redundant. There is no should. There only is.
You are so fucking retarded that you do not merit a response, as I'm not going to do this again. -
2018-12-23 at 11:53 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-12-23 at 8:20 PM UTC in Who you think you'd get on with best irl out of hydro and §m£ÂgØL?
Originally posted by GGG Literally the most degenerate users here are the ones who wanna hang with hydro lol.
There's a reason she doesn't have long term friends. You can usually tell how shitty a person is by their ability to keep friends. I have so many friends i cant count and many of them are long term friends.
If there is any takeaway from this thread for you, it's to not do this. -
2018-12-23 at 8:17 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-12-23 at 8:15 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING III: The Quest for 911 Truth What's a category error?
When you treat something as part of a category that it does not belong to, which allows you to do manipulations that are not actually logically possible.
So for example iron = device that flattens clothes, why is a device that flattens clothes in the periodic table of elements? Science is jedi. -
2018-12-23 at 5:18 PM UTC in Who you think you'd get on with best irl out of hydro and §m£ÂgØL?
Originally posted by Lanny I feel pretty much the same as HTS and I don't think you can use the same explanation in my case. Do you remember that thread a while back where §m£ÂgØL was arguing for the legalization of opiates and I disagreed and he kept saying I was sheltered and like didn't have sufficient life experience (i.e. hanging out with opiate users) to comment? It's usually pretty unproductive to pass judgement on the lives of others (admittedly I do this with Bill Krozby, but that's almost entertainment at this point) but the grating thing about §m£ÂgØL is that in his book you're living wrong insofar as you're not living like him. Don't have a job? You're lazy. Have a degree and career? You're brainwashed by society. He's learning a second language? You're culturally insulated or intellectually lacking if you don't as well.
I didn't really want to show up and shit on my dude, again I don't have a problem with him and think he's pretty chill for the most part. It does seem like there's something about how he posts online at least which rubs multiple people the wrong way and I don't think "you feel judged and insecure" is a sufficient explanation.
Like I said initially, I did agree with his assessment of §m£ÂgØL but as for why that is (and if it makes him insufferable or not), all I see is someone very opinionated (which in and of itself is neutral). He seems willing enough to understand other people, if they give him a good enough reason to.
I made that comment specifically to HTS because I've had conversations with HTS before where he has demonstrated Olympic mental gymnastics to justify doing something exactly as he does it and no other way. Which makes me question his exact interaction with Gillum, because there are two sides to every story. -
2018-12-23 at 5:08 PM UTC in Who you think you'd get on with best irl out of hydro and §m£ÂgØL?
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2018-12-23 at 5:07 PM UTC in Who you think you'd get on with best irl out of hydro and §m£ÂgØL?
Originally posted by HTS This is a reasonable assumption, until you realize that it's based around that idea that §m£ÂgØL's grounds for "calling people out" reflect some kind of objective assessment of what a "stupid lifestyle choice" is.
Well no, but unless you can disagree with his reasoning, can you say he is wrong? -
2018-12-23 at 4:54 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatI can verify that MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING's interjection doesn't remotely challenge your point and is actually committing a category error.
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2018-12-23 at 4:52 PM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs AttentionActual footage of Hydro when offered drugs
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2018-12-23 at 12:19 PM UTC in Who you think you'd get on with best irl out of hydro and §m£ÂgØL?
Originally posted by HTS That is because I am oh so sagacious. Seriously, if people don't agree with my assessment of §m£ÂgØL… they should.
I don't know that that's true. I mean, I will acknowledge that NEETs are prone to a certain level of bias in these matters, but consider: I don't find Lanny distasteful. He's a successful programmer with a successful career, and has made as much known to me through his posts here. Lanny, however, has never implicitly made clear that he thinks poorly of people who have not achieved the same level of success that he has. §m£ÂgØL has. Perhaps accidentally, on account of the inexperience I previously mentioned.
§m£ÂgØL publicizes every stereotypical mile marker of progress that he passes. Trying to learn a new language, trying to learn a programming language, trying to broaden his experience through travel… there is a distinct pattern with §m£ÂgØL.
Lanny doesn't really talk about his success or other people's shitty decision making regarding their life and career. As you just said, your issue seems to be with G's judgment of those less successful than himself.
My question is, why do you find that judgment so grating? It doesn't seem inherently bad, specially if it's well founded.
My speculation would be that it is because you make stupid lifestyle choices and don't like people who call you on it because they want a better reason than "I'm doing what I want", which isn't even true. -
2018-12-23 at 10:53 AM UTC in Who you think you'd get on with best irl out of hydro and §m£ÂgØL?
Originally posted by HTS Don't get me wrong, I don't hate him for this or anything. I've talked to §m£ÂgØL like 1000x the amount I've talked to hydro. I wouldn't say we're necessarily friends, but I'd like to think so, and I'd like to think I know him better than I do most of my acquaintances from here and also more than most of them know him.
That said…
Pride is one of the deadly sins for precisely this reason. I'm gonna go out on an extreme limb here about pride and its expression: I feel like the problem here is that either expressing pride - or the sensation of pride itself - is new to §m£ÂgØL. What I mean is that §m£ÂgØL does not know how to be proud without appearing prideful. Essentially, he is too inexperienced with Pride to express the emotion in a way that is unlikely to attract some degree of scorn. In real life this may not be true, but online pride is clearly prone to becoming a sticking point in his relationships. *shrug*
I actually agree with your assessment of §m£ÂgØL.
But the only reason you see it as grating and prideful is because you're a NEET and have resigned yourself to a life of dependence. Anyone talking about doing well in their career itself, making good money etc would appear prideful to you.
There's nothing deadly about his behaviour, it's not a big deal if you understand where it's coming from. The same way it might sound like you're trying to be a special snowflake if you talk about sex and gender. -
2018-12-23 at 10:30 AM UTC in Who you think you'd get on with best irl out of hydro and §m£ÂgØL?
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2018-12-23 at 10:13 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Obbe You're assuming there is something people should be doing. There isn't.
Oh cool, a positive claim. Either give a positive argument for total moral anti realism or neck yourself.There is only what people do, what people think they should do,
No, there is what people do, what people think they should do, and there is a fact to what they should actually do, given that they desire a certain outcome.
If you have a pizza route with a certain number of clients and you "want" to deliver pizzas as efficiently as possible to make the most money, the pizza boy's opinion of the fastest route is completely irrelevant to the factual fastest route.
That is irrespective of whether the enterprise of pizza delivery should necessarily involvemaking the most efficient deliveries or most money as a universal moral imperative.and what the system compels people to do.
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2018-12-23 at 9:50 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-12-23 at 3:35 AM UTC in Off the florida keyyys... Theres a place called kokomo...Kokomo is it real?
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2018-12-23 at 3:34 AM UTC in Off the florida keyyys... Theres a place called kokomo...WHY ARE THE OTHER ONES REAL?
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2018-12-23 at 3:33 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs Attention
Originally posted by hydromorphone Fixed that for ya, buddy.
https://ldaamerica.org/adult-literacy-reading-programs/
Have a family member, friend, or your caretaker check out the link above I provided. It might help you along your way to becoming more literate than you currently are by finding a program/tutor who can help your reading/writing comprehension. When writing a statement, you would say "I cannot/can't read.", rather than "I did not/didn't read.", and if you're going to express this in a more formal way, you would write "I cannot read your post." I'm sorry that what I write is too hard for you to understand, but with practice, I'm sure you'll come around and be able to read the big-boy books one day.
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2018-12-23 at 3:33 AM UTC in What happened to Sophie/Psychomanthis?
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2018-12-23 at 2:43 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs Attention
Originally posted by hydromorphone Well, I appreciate that. I sometimes think that because people who use opiates to treat pain, they often get a bad rep, and a fundamental thing is missed, be it a self medicater such as I've been, or a person who's prescribed: They have pain that isn't being resolved with other things they've tried, and almost everyone has tried SOMETHING else, and sure, they may have limited trials to other shit, or be cost prohibitive, or just unavailable to them for a number of reasons, but people have pain. I had a doctor tell me that opioids were not the best things to threat pain, that they didn't work, and required higher doses (which the latter can be true, at least to some extent), I find that to be very, very wrong. If they weren't good for treating pain, then though wouldn't have stayed in use (what? thousands of years?), and they wouldn't be prescribed, and used in the medical field like they are used if something better existed. Certainly, I agree ANY medication should be used for the shortest possible time, but when you deal with people such as myself, and especially people like my father, they NEED opioids, and they need high doses of said opioids, and so fucking what if the dose might need to be increased what maybe every 6 months, maybe every year once their dose has been established (in the beginning of use, you my need to increase much more frequently, just to get to a point the patient's pain is being controlled, as not to under medicate, or over medicate, and then from there comes the 6m-1y increases.) I promise you, if there was a better way, then we'd all be doing that, rather than being on a drug that's becoming harder and harder to get prescribed, deal with the stimas, taboos, and be looked at like drug addicts.
I see why you'd want to avoid opioids for the potential addiction, but gabapentin, and tramadol have physical symptoms of withdrawal as well when used regularly. I can speak for the gabapentin WD myself, and I've seen some people with the tramadol experience WDs. Tramadol also has the side effect, particularly at higher doses, granted, but still, can cause seizures, and still effect MOR, KOR, and DOR, so you're not escaping opioid use by using tramadol.
You know, I think because my usage involves higher doses than most people, and especially most opiate novices, one gets the idea that I am getting high, nodding out, and my usage is dependent on euphoria… when that's really far from the case. I cannot say I've NEVER had euphoria, or that I haven't had nodding experience on a few occasions, but not as often, or as powerful as one might think. I don't like to be in an incapacitated state. If I use a drug, I want to be aware, able to think clearly, able to function, and able to do things. THat's why I prefer opioids (most traditional ones anyway, and tianpetine) over other drugs. Gapapentin really is not a drug I like to use, but unfortunately, if I said I had a problem, I do with that. It makes me foggy, it makes me slow, it does very little to control the root of my pain, and I just feel… useless with it. It was fine when I used it intermittently, but the daily usage has really fucked me. I WD from it just before my infection took hold, and then BOOM, I was right back on it, and then at even higher doses.
Good luck with controlling your pain. If you find something better than opioids, more power to you, and I genuinely hope you do, and that it has as good, or better safety profile as opioids to boot.
Originally posted by hydromorphone Well, first off let me being by saying: I fucking have not, nor ever would I steal someones scripts (unless they die, and frankly, once they're dead, those pills hospice is going to flush are fair fucking game at that point.), that's a really unfair analogy. I literally watched them going through not this time, but last time I was in their ER, and they were throwing out shit that wasn't yet expired (shit that had 3 months left before it expired! dude was telling me, and even showed me a box that was being tossed before expiration- apparently they wanted to clear it out just in case it was accidentally still in use after expiration.) which I feel is a fucking sin, especially when that shit is good far past it's expiration date as long as it's kept out of heat/cold, and kept away from moisture. There are fucking doctors and quacks alike in Africa who would LOVE to fucking have that expired shit… and me too.
Remember, I'm not taking from the doctors, the nurses, or any staff here. These hospitals are publicly funded. What I took is a drop in the bucket compared to the waste that goes on in these places, not to mention the fucking insane prices they charge for the simplest of shit. I believe 1337 got his itemized bill, and a SINGLE PILL, a 5mg oxycodone was 80$. LMFAO at that point, it's time to just call up the dope man to pay you a visit, especially when you don't have insurance. You cannot tell me ANYTHING that could possibly come close to justifying that price hike in an alternate universe. This is why I have no qualms with collecting gear I KNOW eventually I'll end up using, and potentially saving a life with it. They can always get more, I always can't, that's why I take it when I can.
As for wanting to die, I'm here for anything more than having my pain controlled. If I could manage to control my pain at home, I would be doing exactly that. That's why the antibiotics go down the drain in my bathroom, the pills get cheeked, and all I do is take my gabapentin, tylenol, naproxen, ibprofen, and diaudid (I did try the celebrex… meh… I don't know about that shit. I'm on the fence.), and occasionally, I take their ketorolac via IV. If it wasn't for that, I fucking wouldn't be here. I fucking hate hospitals, hate doctors, and really, I would prefer to be home.
I tell you what, I do wish I felt better, and my life was better, but as it's not, it still doesn't change the fact that I'm scared of the unknown. I admit that. I have an ingrained fear that most people have, but unlike say someone like PoC, I'll at least admit I have that fear, rather than go on acting tough and fearless when deep down inside he's probably more scared than all of us put together. Eventually I'll grow a pair.
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