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2018-12-26 at 12:55 PM UTC in Later
Originally posted by Lanny Almost everything in this post is fabricated bullshit, like everything in your life. Information sorta enters your brain as a vague impression and then some times passes and you fuck together three different unrelated things that happened to you, mix in something you saw on TV, add a dash of pure unenhancemented and unconscious imagination and you have a t2k1 paranoid delusion. Your whole thought process is brain salad.
That's what I've been saying, dog. He is mentally ill and seriously needs professional medical assistance.
I have started skimming his posts like crazy radio. Take a trip down his comment history, it is like GTA Radio, or Tim and Eric, but a schizo Americana conspiracy vein. It's very entertaining. -
2018-12-26 at 10:57 AM UTC in Marriage
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2018-12-26 at 9:02 AM UTC in Male porn actors who stick their jaw out while fucking
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2018-12-26 at 8:45 AM UTC in Male porn actors who stick their jaw out while fuckingAlso, have jacked upper bodies but skinny chicken legs to make their dick look better.
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2018-12-26 at 8:43 AM UTC in Aldra, surfing the Kali Yuga
Originally posted by misanthropy i'll respond to this properly when i sober up after christmas but lol you are dunning-kruger as fuck if you actually think charles murray is the foremost researcher in the area of race and intelligence, he co-wrote one book 25 years ago and has been mostly irrelevant since, meanwhile arthur jensen studied it for 40 years and has covered most of the things you think are contentions decades ago but i doubt you've read a single paper. no wonder you have such a dumb and misinformed opinion on this, you haven't done anything more than basic bitch cursory research but still think you can say something authoritative
and no, pinker's cherry picking doesn't minimally diminish his point, it totally blows his better angels thesis out of the water because it renders him unable to even establish the basic axiom, which is that violence has declined in the long term
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2018-12-26 at 8:05 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by DietPiano Ought is redundant. Is exists. Ought only exists if you decide it exists to you.
It happened. That much is provable. "It ought to have happened" is not provable. It may be formulated into an equation, but is redunadant and pointless, unless you decide it is meaningful to you, subjectively.
1=1
Nono, 2/2=2/2!
Uh, Okay. If you decide to calculate it that way, that's fine, but that equation is not in simplest form, and is redundant.
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2018-12-26 at 8:04 AM UTC in MarriageSw4ng0
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2018-12-25 at 11:51 PM UTC in The ladies say that the magic number in the bedroom is 6...
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2018-12-25 at 10:17 PM UTC in The ladies say that the magic number in the bedroom is 6...My penis is the size of uranus
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2018-12-25 at 10:04 PM UTC in Thank you. And Goodbye.Felonious Faggot detected
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2018-12-25 at 7:08 PM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs AttentionI like how the britfag thinks being a schismatic will make him less unlikeable.
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2018-12-25 at 7:06 PM UTC in Aldra, surfing the Kali Yuga
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2018-12-25 at 7:05 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Obbe Everything literally happens for its own sake, not because anything "should" happen.
Everything happens because it should happen. Why it should happen is because it was the way it was before and the laws it operates by necessitated that it must be a certain way next. You could call this being for its own sake. But it can also be for the sake of many other things.
For any conceivable question you could ask, you can give many different levels of answers. For any given question, you can always give the valid answer "because of the laws of physics and the initial conditions of the universe". That is a true and valid answer, but for most questions, it's definitely not more true than a whole set of other kinds of possible answers.
The autism of your reply is in denying every answer except that one.People want to make money, not because they "should" make money, but because of the system that compels them to.
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2018-12-25 at 5:57 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Obbe Yes, exactly. Everything that is happening is happening, but there is nothing that "should" be happening. People deliver pizzas because people deliver pizzas, not because they "should".
Well no, not exactly, it is completely opposite of your point and your statement is retarded. The current state of the universe turns into the next state by virtue of the properties of the current state. But this is not the context in which pizzas exist. People deliver pizzas because people want to make money, which is provided to them in exchange for their service in delivering the pizza. If he wants to do the job as well as possible, he ought to adopt the most efficient route. To say "he will or he won't" is an autistic category error that blatantly just changes the subject. If I buy 10 packs of candy with 20 candies per pack, I reason that if the packaging is accurate and I did receive the right amount of packages, I ought to find 200 candies in my purchase. This relation of two facts is completely independent of whether or not there are in fact 200 candies, which is not going to be the case if either of my first assumptions are wrong. The point of Hume's assertion of the gap between is an ought is that there is always a hidden assumption in the relation between two "is"es.
Again, autisticslly denying that "ought" exists isn't a coherent argument. I know you are trying to parrot Sam Harris on this because you thought he said something vaguely similar one time, but he doesn't deny the existence of oughts either.So you imagine an agents agency is determined by other agents with agency. I don't think I agree with that. An agents agency is an inherent quality of their agentness.
No I said the sufficiency of your moral agency is determined by other agents. You're the one who has to assert your competence as a moral agent. They are the ones that have to accept your competence.Modern society is in certain respects extremely permissive. In matters that are irrelevant to the functioning of the system we can generally do what we please. We can believe in any religion we like (as long as it does not encourage behavior that is dangerous to the system). We can go to bed with anyone we like (as long as we practice “safe sex”). We can do anything we like as long as it is unimportant. But in all important matters the system tends increasingly to regulate our behavior.
Behavior is regulated not only through explicit rules and not only by the government. Control is often exercised through indirect coercion or through psychological pressure or manipulation, and by organizations other than the government, or by the system as a whole. Most large organizations use some form of propaganda to manipulate public attitudes or behavior. Propaganda is not limited to “commercials” and advertisements, and sometimes it is not even consciously intended as propaganda by the people who make it. For instance, the content of entertainment programming is a powerful form of propaganda. An example of indirect coercion: There is no law that says we have to go to work every day and follow our employer’s orders. Legally there is nothing to prevent us from going to live in the wild like primitive people or from going into business for ourselves. But in practice there is very little wild country left, and there is room in the economy for only a limited number of small business owners. Hence most of us can survive only as someone else’s employee. Modern man’s obsession with longevity, and with maintaining physical vigor and sexual attractiveness to an advanced age, is a symptom of unfulfillment resulting from deprivation with respect to the individuation process. The “mid-life crisis” also is such a symptom. So is the lack of interest in having children that is fairly common in modern society but almost unheard-of in primitive societies.
Before the system took over, life was a succession of stages. The needs and purposes of one stage having been fulfilled, there is no particular reluctance about passing on to the next stage. A young man goes through the individuation process by becoming a hunter, hunting not for sport or for fulfillment but to get meat that is necessary for food. This phase having been successfully passed through, the young man has no reluctance about settling down to the responsibilities of raising a family. (In contrast, some modern people indefinitely postpone having children because they are too busy seeking some kind of “fulfillment.” The fulfillment they need is adequate experience of the individuation process—with real goals instead of the artificial goals of surrogate activities.) Again, having successfully raised his children, going through the individuation process by providing them with the physical necessities, the primitive man feels that his work is done and he is prepared to accept old age (if he survives that long) and death. Many modern people, on the other hand, are disturbed by the prospect of physical deterioration and death, as is shown by the amount of effort they expend trying to maintain their physical condition, appearance and health. This is due to unfulfillment resulting from the fact that they have never put their physical powers to any practical use, have never gone through the individuation process using their bodies in a serious way. It is not the primitive man, who has used his body daily for practical purposes, who fears the deterioration of age, but the modern man, who has never had a practical use for his body beyond walking from his car to his house. It is the man whose need for the individuation process has been satisfied during his life who is best prepared to accept the end of that life.
The oversocialized man has feelings of inferiority so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the oversocialized man. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization or a mass movement with which he identifies himself. He may claim that his activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principles, but compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for moralist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of moralist behavior; so is the drive for power. Moreover, much of their behavior is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to the people, or animals whom the moraliats claim to be trying to help. For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good for black people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms? Obviously it would be more productive to take a diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative action discriminates against them. But moral activists do not take such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs. Helping black people is not their real goal. Instead, race problems serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and frustrated need for individuation. In doing so they actually harm black people, because the activists’ hostile attitude toward the white majority tends to intensify race hatred. If our society had no social problems at all, the moraliats would have to invent problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss.
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2018-12-25 at 2:34 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatI want to discuss roads in detail. Driver's Licenses are a great example of one package of the Moral Agents Club.
When you receive your license, the agreement you sign with the state has certain stipulations, including following the traffic laws, of which you have asserted and demonstrated competence, to not drive in a state where this competence is impaired, and to subject yourself to tests that can ensure that your competence is not impaired.
This is a very direct social contract that you enter, and if you are a sane driver and the laws are made well, you WANT to enter these agreements, because you want everyone who's on the road to be competent and impaired, since you're all participating in an inherently dangerous activity where impaired competence leads to many deaths annually.
Furthermore, if you get pulled over for speeding, you don't WANT to say "oh sorry officer, I'm not morally competent or willing to make these moral concessions and compliances". That's an option, by the way: you can surrender your license. But you don't do that because you want to drive, and if you want to drive, you want to use the benefits of the Moral Agents Club, and to do so, you need to deem yourself morally competent and responsible. For example if you refuse a breathalyser, your license will be revoked. Because if you don't want to confirm your competence, the club doesn't have any reason to believe your assertion that you are sufficiently competent to be on the road.
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2018-12-25 at 2:16 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Obbe Nothing should be done for its own sake.
Literally everything happens for its own sake. The special thing about people is that we can also build levels of being that can enable other reasons too.Who decides what sufficient moral agency is?
Everyone else that the agent comes into contact with. But we allow this level of judgment to abstracted away to society because we want to do other things.
You use the roads so you do too, and you also make principally avoidable but practically unavoidable concessions to participate in (and benefit from the membership of) the Moral Agents Club of society. -
2018-12-25 at 10:46 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs Attention
Originally posted by hydromorphone I'm really happy. I went outside to smoke, and well, I saw this homeless man there who asked to buy a cigarette from me. I'm not going to take someone who's down on their luck like that's money. I went back upstairs, got about 3 yogurts, 2 brownies, a box of cheese crackers, and made some cigarettes (menthol since he said he preferred menthol when I asked), and since he was shivering, and I know had been out there a while, I grabbed a couple blankets.
You'd have thought I gave him the million dollar winning lottery ticket or something. He asked me "did I die and go to heaven when I dozed off just before you came back up to me?" and he asked me why I was doing this coming up to random homeless person, after most recently a woman who was trying to give a homeless man 10$ got stabbed by him and died nearby, not but a few blocks. Well, everyone here knows I don't have a high value on my continued existence, but still… even if I did, my dad taught me to not be scared to do the right thing. I could wake up, walk outside, and boom, get struck by lightening, get in a car accident on my way to work, or have a stroke and keel over dead… there's all sorts of fucked shit that can happen to me on a day to day basis, but it shouldn't stop you from doing what's right by others. I guess there's a risk of something bad happening, but… I just hope if someone I love is in the position that man, Adam, is in, that someone would do for him the way I did for Adam, hopefully better, and I would have too if I wasn't broke as a joke, but I gave what I could give at least.
The nurses on my floor thought what I did was sweet lol, and so did the lady at the security desk. I really don't want anything for christmas, It makes me so much happier to make someone else's day, or at least make their day better than it was. Just happy I was able to do what I did.
If any of you are in the position to do so, I encourage you to help your fellow man/woman who's out there on the street tonight, who for whatever reason doesn't have a roof over their head, or food in their belly, or hell, even smoke in their lungs if they're a smoker. I encourage you all to do what you can, with what you got, to make their day a little less shitty. Even if it's just a smoke or two. Even if it's just a can of beans, or some leftovers. Even if it's an old ratty blanket, I'm sure someone cold, hungry, and down on their luck will appreciate it. Maybe you have an extra jacket you don't wear anymore, or a pair of socks, or an old pair of gloves. Hell, if you got a couple bucks to spare for them even that'd be cool too, hell, even a little change.
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2018-12-25 at 10:46 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs Attention
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2018-12-25 at 1:29 AM UTC in Who you think you'd get on with best irl out of hydro and §m£ÂgØL?
Originally posted by hydromorphone I've hitchhiked as well, back when I was a teenager with no car. It was more I walked until I got where I was going, which could be 20+ miles, and sometimes I'd get lucky with a good Samaritan who'd offer me a lift. I never had a bad experience. I've also picked up many a hitchhiker, because of my 'pay it forward' philosophy on life. I've also never had a bad experience. Some weird ones for sure, but nothing bad.
Once I saw a hitch hiking ghost. When I was 16, I had gotten up early in the morning (been up all night, and was pissed off at my boyfriend because he blew me off to go hang with his friends despite us having plans that night) and decided to just go for a drive, and blow off steam. I ended up driving North on Highway 19, which in Florida, used to be one of the main roads coming and going in the state prior to the interstates being put in. Since then a lot of towns have pretty much dried up, so it's very rural once you get past Crystal River/Yankee Town. So, I'm like 50miles from home at this point, somewhere between Yankee town and Chiefland, and I see this old guy with a long, bushy grey beard, and a green military style napsack, and he was wearing what appeared to be some sort of military army jacket. I was flying in my caddy, doing like 130+ at the time, but I saw him way before I passed him, since it was a beautiful clear day around 10am in the morning, and I could see the road for miles. Well, I seen he had his thumb out so I went to slow down, but speeding so fast I couldn't in time once I decided I was going to give the guy a lift (I wanted to see him clearly before I made a decision to pick him up, get a vibe off him first), so I went to turn around about a mile up the road, and come back around. I could see clearly between the N/S median on either side, and I was positive I didn't turn too early, and there was absolutely no other car, truck, or tractor trailer on the road going north or south in that period of time. I drove up and even came back one more time to be on the safe side… He was gone. I literally took my eye off the last spot I'd seen him for about 30 seconds that it took to make the turn. He'd have to have ran and ducked into the tree line which was far as fuck away on that side of the road, and would have had to of crossed the old railroad tracks to do so, which meant going up and down a gully twice. That would have been hard with his napsack which appeared to have been packed pretty full. Plus, he had his thumb out.. dude was looking for a ride, so I can't see why he'd just scurry off when I was turning back to get him. I've thought it over and over a lot and I cannot figure any logical reason to what happened to this guy in that 30 seconds I lost sight of him. I even remember the mile marker he'd just passed, so he couldn't have got too far from there. He'd looked right at me too. I think I saw a hitch hiking ghost. I've heard a lot of people tell me about similar encounters with hitch hiking ghosts along route 19 too.
Anyway… that was one of the more interesting hitch hiking encounters. Others were just funny, cool hippies.
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2018-12-24 at 11:57 PM UTC in Aldra, surfing the Kali Yuga
Originally posted by misanthropy it's basically a summary of his arguments in enlightenment now. he uses the standard neoliberal our world in data approach with lots of graphs and charts to paint a picture of a world getting better at a surface level while being flippant about major issues we've created like climate change
as for better angels his treatment of historical data is a pretty egregious example of cherry picking and largely undermines his central thesis
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273371719_Pinker's_List_Exaggerating_Prehistoric_War_Mortality
pinker may be a genius in psycholinguistics but his popsci ventures far outside his actual area of expertise
The link minimally diminishes his point. You have to be a big time yard to think it critically undermines his argument in any way.because nothing is working fast enough, the negative trends overwhelm the positive
[Citation needed]they haven't gotten worse but we're running up against HBD limits, once people realize that the hereditarians are right, there are major biological differences between races and IQ gaps can't be narrowed significantly, i foresee a major cultural shift toward anti multiethnicism
Legitimately retarded contingent of the internet that doesn't understand how statistics work and substitutes length for substance, strikes again.
The problem with interracial intelligence studies conducted thusfar has been methodological, and rightards simply do not want to admit this, because if someone points out that these results cannot be used to draw the conclusions they want to draw, they tard out and yell FEELS FACTS?
Go and actually read The Bell Curve or listen to any interview with Charles Murray to actually hear what the strongest researcher on the subject of race IQ differences himself says about it.
In subsequent interviews, he has also admitted to the selection problems of current racial studies: for example, the East Asian population in the US can be sampled as fairly as possible to represent the EAsians in the US, but the population itself is a poor sample to represent EAsians: the majority of families who are even capable of making the migration from East Asia had to have the resources available to them to make the move and thus were likely middle to upper class, better educated families of higher social stature and familial backgrounds of success, and there were large waves of East Asian migrations after the largest scale systematic racism had been eliminated. Meanwhile for blacks, the studies are literally sampling the descendents of people who were impacted by Jim Crow less than 50 years ago, or going to sub Saharan Africa and asking a villager to take an IW test, like they're really going to even have the same proficiency at the test as the comparison groups.no it's not, even human intelligence is in decline
Literally directly addressed by Pinker.we could but we're not on track to do so
[Citation needed]you first
No I insist, this way I can slap your ass on the way through, watch my cum dribble out of your holes.
