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2017-07-11 at 2:40 PM UTC in Captain Falcon vs Lanny
Originally posted by greenplastic o rly?
because it really sounds like you do
He doesn't care so much, that he's got to make sure we all know how much he doesn't care. By making multiple posts that reiterate just how little he cares and the zero fucks he could give about a subject that he hadn't even noticed in the first place because he wasn't paying attention due to the fact he doesn't really care.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-07-11 at 5:39 AM UTC in bias and magical beliefs
Originally posted by 霍比特人 And science is the language of truth. If you haven't found out the truth, you haven't done proper science.
I don't think that's a very fair analysis of what "proper science" is. Indeed, some of those we consider the greatest minds of science in history, Aristotle, Herophilus, Newton, Darwin, Einstein, and many other productive if lesser scientists throughout the ages have advanced theories which simply were not true yet were tremendously useful and revolutionary in multiple fields. Surely we can't fault Newton, say he did "improper science", when he failed to anticipate relativistic phenomenon he had no means of observing. And if we could, on what possible basis could we say we are now conducting "proper" science knowing paradigmatic revolution could be just around the corner?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-07-10 at 9:13 PM UTC in A comprehensive list of hydro's craziness
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Yeah remember you were saying stupid stuff like "I think there's 2 sciences" and philosophy is useless and how you only posted in the thread after seeing me post and called me an acid burn out. You know giving me the gears, giving me a hard time, why did you do that?
The guy is either trying to troll half the time or just posts whatever bullshit comes into his head without thinking and then doesn't want to admit when he's wrong. I can't figure out whichThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-07-08 at 2:06 AM UTC in bias and magical beliefskill yourselfThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-07-07 at 10:24 PM UTC in bias and magical beliefs
Originally posted by 霍比特人 When I say science I mean 'true science' as in what is objectively real. Obviously science, being a human construct, doesn't know everything.
I see there being two sciences. Science as a study of reality, and science as the organization of reality.
I definitely consider the laws of physics to be an example of science/reality. It is (so far) an objective reality about the universe. You can't manipulate the noumenal world. If something is able to be manipulated/changed then it simply isn't true and is therefore no longer science.
So that's the better part of the issue resolved: when we talk about science in the philosophy of science, and I'll argue even common usage aligns with this, we're talking about either a process by which with study the world or the human institution tasked with studying the world. Using science as a synonym for reality is, uhhh, a little unexpected. But if we understand the terminological issue then you should agree with Obbe's original statement that science (per the usage I've described) is a tool: it's a technique we use to attempt to study the objective world.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-07-07 at 9:59 PM UTC in bias and magical beliefs
Originally posted by 霍比特人 If you want to make this a semantics game you can fuck off. Call it reality or whatever. And if you don't believe in objective reality you can also fuck off. You guys know just as well as I do that science is more than just 'the study of.' I'd like to see you give more than a semantics argument on how it is a tool, if that's what you believe.
I mean it seems like it's already a semantic argument, I think what you are referring to when you say "science" is something very different than what the rest of us use the term to mean. The laws of physics are not science in the way we use the term in, say, the philosophy of science, although the process by which we discover the laws of physics probably is. Is it fair to say you would consider "laws of physics" to be an "example of science" per your usage so far ITT?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-07-07 at 9:43 PM UTC in bias and magical beliefs
Originally posted by 霍比特人 How can you say science is a tool though? Science is the most objective reality we have. It isn't a tool any more than you would say oxygen is a tool for breathing. It's so inherent that to call it a tool implies its something to be manipulated. You can't manipulate objective reality.
What's inherent about science? It didn't exist for most of the history of the world, of life, of our species. It doesn't seem to be any more natural than any other human invention. And in the fairly short time it's been with us it's changed internally and radically. The modern practice of science seems like whatever the opposite of "inherent" is to me.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-07-07 at 3:03 PM UTC in bias and magical beliefsThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-06-30 at 9:33 PM UTC in Deleted posts for: Cone of TruthGentlemen, the truth is not hidden among endless streams of data.
It certainly is not found on google or reddit.
But this place... This is like a sacred blessed domain.
We draw power from this together.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-06-29 at 11:38 PM UTC in the race to fuck hts
Originally posted by infinityshock sexuality is designed for one single specific purpose: continuity of the species.
according to WHO ??? you ??? Gott ??/ evolutionists ???? Darwin ????
Our genitals are multipurpose ; they are to pee, and they are for intercourses,
how are we to be so sure that our sexuality are pure, single purpose and not multipurpose ????The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-06-16 at 8:51 AM UTC in I need to talk to a Psychonaut that isn't a complete asshole
Originally posted by Lanny Hooo boy, there are whole dimensions of pain you've yet to learn about
Trust me, I know a little. That cheap Mexican clinic trip I puked all over my floor and felt like every inch of my body was being pierced by millions of needles. The word that kept coming to mind was EXCORIATED. I didn't even know what it meant, but I was convinced I was being EXCORIATED. Looked up the definition afterwards and it was accurate af. I remember after I puked all over the floor I remember thinking that that was basically me, a pile of fucking puke, and I was convinced that I shouldn't be permitted to exist. That I was as disgusting as that puke. After that trip I realized that out of all the possible realities and experiences we are all fucking BLESSED to be experiencing this one. There was some Event Horizon shit going on in my mind.
It was fucking gnarly. Also ended up feeling like I didn't exist, which is a rather an ironic sensation. Like "the big jokes is I can't die because I don't even exist". Haha.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-06-11 at 11:19 PM UTC in DeterminismSkimming through this thread, does anybody other than Obbe even know what the fuck determinism is? It doesn't seem like it.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-06-10 at 4:19 PM UTC in DeterminismThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-06-09 at 2:11 AM UTC in Determinism
Originally posted by Sophie I am in the free will camp.
Philosophers typically consider the issue of free will as being orthogonal to physical determinism. There's not really a good argument for physical indeterminism enabling the libertarian notion of free will beyond what's afforded in a deterministic model.Also, if everything is determined why do we even punish criminals?
Because the society where the outcome of crime is punishment is going to contain fewer criminals than the one where it isn't. How your society deals with criminals is part of the deterministic decision making process that generates criminality. -
2017-06-09 at 12:34 AM UTC in DeterminismThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-06-03 at 10:09 PM UTC in did bundy change my personality
Originally posted by Open Your Mind Let go of your anger and stop being retarded. You literally have nothing to be upset about.
I swear this ridiculous overreaction to anything they perceive as negative, and a greater likelihood of perceiving or misinterpreting things as such, is a common symptom of Asperger's. There's actually a neurological basis for this due to anatomical differences in the amygdala and its connection to the prefrontal cortex. Various other factors also have a significant influence on this.
I think I may recall RisiR mentioning a history of mental illness in his family. Very possible he may be suffering from his genetic lineage.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-06-02 at 5:31 PM UTC in how can i transcend my ego?
Originally posted by Open Your Mind See, it's like I said in the beta/beta thread. I try to tell the group the truth and get attacked.
I'm not attacking you, I just felt like responding and couldn't think of anything other than "whoa that's deep". Using the meme was more a jab at myself than it was you, haha. You're an interesting dude.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-06-01 at 11:36 AM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Sophie I agree, and to do so one must consider these things on a person to person basis. Ergo, you can't make a blanket statement and say: "All 12yos are mentally incapable of consenting to sex".
I agree and this is fair.
but that's how the law works. the law is unable to determine on an individual level when somebody(adolescent) would be ready for physical relationships. so it determines that nearly all are ready by a certain age, i.e 16 in the UK, 18 in the US, and imposes a blanket ban on sexual relations with anyone under that age. if it was left to the individual to determine this before entering into relations it would be ridiculous. an offender could just claim that the victim seemed ready, acted ready, and they had no clue to lead them to assume otherwise.
even tho this means that many are ready before the age of consent, without the means to determine individualy, society just has to accept the blanket ruling.
as I said before in this fred, a post pubescent teen is physically very little different to an older teen who is above the age of consent. so if you are deliberately targeting an under age, then its not because of the physical attraction, its because they are under age that is attracting you. its the naughtiness, the increased risk that is exciting you. whether the offender realizes this or not.
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2017-06-01 at 12:59 AM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Memeing_Electron I would assume that because all value is determined by sentience, and since most economic and social systems in place defend the individual, then the reasonable assumption would mean that you should generally avoid doing harm to any sentience/individual. Changing the thinking/feeling of an individual (making them go a different route than what is most safe and effective for them) would be the equivalent of crippling them socially/emotionally/mentally. The effects of this are not noticeable unless you're looking for it, but the effects do exist.
As a closing note on this i would like to add that i believe i cannot decide for other people what is best for them. It is not my right nor my place, therefore everyone should decide for themselves what is best. If they feel agreeing to X action is what they want and feel what is best then who am i to say no?
Of course this does not apply to really young kids who can't know what is best for them so the crux of the matter is when do we consider someone mature or old enough to agree or consent to X action. Like i said, we should determine this on a person to person basis.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-06-01 at 12:30 AM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?The problem with consent in regards to sex is the same as consent with any sort of transaction. Both parties need to know the true values of exchanged goods or services, as well as terms of the exchange. If you were to swindle someone by making a deal that they did not fully comprehend, then you have done wrong, because you took advantage of the person's intellectual shortcomings (this argument could be used to argue against rights for individuals and such, but that's a topic for a different thread).
The same concept applies to a sexual exchange between a child and an adult. The child, regardless of theoretical knowledge of sex or their enthusiasm to try something new, is incapable of making a fully informed and neutral decision (neutral as in logical and not blindly fueled by hormones. If you let hormones lead you to fuck everything, you have the intellect of a retard and should be protected as such). Children are on an inferior level intellectually because they are still getting a grasp on choosing logic over bodily impulses, they have much to learn about the world, and they are physically and mentally incapable of defending themselves if any interaction or psychological/physiological transaction were to occur.
Same goes for dumb adults. Don't stick your dick into a retard either, you shit.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
