2017-07-07 at 10:24 PM UTC
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bias and magical beliefs
Originally posted by 霍比特人
When I say science I mean 'true science' as in what is objectively real. Obviously science, being a human construct, doesn't know everything.
I see there being two sciences. Science as a study of reality, and science as the organization of reality.
I definitely consider the laws of physics to be an example of science/reality. It is (so far) an objective reality about the universe. You can't manipulate the noumenal world. If something is able to be manipulated/changed then it simply isn't true and is therefore no longer science.
So that's the better part of the issue resolved: when we talk about science in the philosophy of science, and I'll argue even common usage aligns with this, we're talking about either a process by which with study the world or the human institution tasked with studying the world. Using science as a synonym for reality is, uhhh, a little unexpected. But if we understand the terminological issue then you should agree with Obbe's original statement that science (per the usage I've described) is a tool: it's a technique we use to attempt to study the objective world.
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2017-07-07 at 9:59 PM UTC
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Originally posted by 霍比特人
If you want to make this a semantics game you can fuck off. Call it reality or whatever. And if you don't believe in objective reality you can also fuck off. You guys know just as well as I do that science is more than just 'the study of.' I'd like to see you give more than a semantics argument on how it is a tool, if that's what you believe.
I mean it seems like it's already a semantic argument, I think what you are referring to when you say "science" is something very different than what the rest of us use the term to mean. The laws of physics are not science in the way we use the term in, say, the philosophy of science, although the process by which we discover the laws of physics probably is. Is it fair to say you would consider "laws of physics" to be an "example of science" per your usage so far ITT?
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2017-07-07 at 9:43 PM UTC
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Originally posted by 霍比特人
How can you say science is a tool though? Science is the most objective reality we have. It isn't a tool any more than you would say oxygen is a tool for breathing. It's so inherent that to call it a tool implies its something to be manipulated. You can't manipulate objective reality.
What's inherent about science? It didn't exist for most of the history of the world, of life, of our species. It doesn't seem to be any more natural than any other human invention. And in the fairly short time it's been with us it's changed internally and radically. The modern practice of science seems like whatever the opposite of "inherent" is to me.
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Originally posted by sploo
being able to pick up on what i called "blatant emotional expressions" is not the same as incorporating this into a subconscious nonverbal language system, which autistic people lack. think of it like a toddler can know the words "the" "and" "but" and some of the most prominent language operators without having structural complexity.
and then my point is if subconscious nonverbal language is purposely practiced and trained as by raising this to conscious awareness and constant application it is like mastering the nonverbal language while everyone else is stuck on their intuitions.
actors do this but i dont know if they do it methodically/systematically or just on impulse, and they may not have the same ability to read the same microexpressions in other people.
btw saying you can significantly (slightly is of course possible, there's a learning curve that plateaus) increase intelligence scores by practicing would be the same as saying you can significantly increase your intelligence by practicing, since besides the low-complexity variants which tend to be redundant, it is literally assessing pure processing load, you can't improve processing load without literally upgrading the CPU.
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"no no no guys, it's just
looks like that other extremely well documented phenomenon that everyone knows about, but actually it's a superpower available only to me, the world's smartest freshman, because I abused drugs for so many years. You too can capitalize on by discovery by joining my cult of retarded pseudo-IQ!"
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Originally posted by sploo
i reread it and its fine. did u not understand it? youre such a fucking pretentious faggot, what i said made perfect sense but as spectral quoted you "i'm lanny i know everything!" when something you havent read in a textbook comes up
run on sentences and grammatical incoherency is only a problem if youre a cuck
durr durrr, guys, did u evr realize FAT TITTIES are a form of SECONDARY SEXUAL CHARACTERISTIC and a tool for SIGNALING?!?!!?!?!?!
CAN I HAZ PHD YET?
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no one gives a shit spectral, your back seat moderating is fucking pathetic.
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Do you actually want to discuss anarcho-primitivism? Can you outline a few of the cogent points you took away from that video?
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Originally posted by Bill Krozby
im from the early 90's
i was a break dancer as a kid
diddled
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Originally posted by 1337
Can we stop changing TRT at 420 pages? The OG retarded thread went to over 1000 pages (with 40 PPP) and only switched because mike was a shitty powertripping mod who ruined the previous one because he didn't like the fact that Rizzo had the awesome idea and was the OP.
Really? I kinda like the tradition but I don't
really care. The current two both kinda gay tbh.
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Originally posted by matt
hey there boys is this the coke? I just took my happy pills looking to do some dancing!!! hey has anyone seen warren I need him to lend me $50 until the 9th thats when I get my old man money yehehe
who u be?
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just couldn't pass up head(dome)
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2017-07-04 at 10:27 PM UTC
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Communism
Originally posted by NARCassist
pretty sure it was george orwell, animal farm iirc.
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That's the joke, Orwell wasn't a Communist, he spent a good chunk of his literary career shitting on communists, it's a quote from a shitty teen-angst-tier manifesto against communism. Not something any actual communist has ever said seriously.
inb4"orwell was a socialist", that's a fucking stupid argument.
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Originally posted by Dargo
Question:
Suppose someone, say Malice, went on a mass shootie and by sheer luck got away with it. The police are looking for him, and while he never detailed his plans specifically, you suspect he might be the culprit so you go digging through his PMs. In his PMs your suspicions are confirmed. If you don't speak up, no one will ever make the connection. Would you then initiate police contact and surrender the information on your own accord, or ignore it altogether?
I wouldn't look through his PMs in the first place. American jurisprudence is such that in any realistic situation I would feel justified in poking through PMs law enforcement should be able to requisition records. I guess Malice could tell me personally beforehand that he was going to go on a mass shooting with enough details that I thought it was very likely he was responsible, at which point I'd feel obligated to report that information (given to me, not obtained by pilfering the PM system) and wait for a court order to turn over records. But I can't think of a situation where I'd feel OK about going poking through PMs of my own accord.
Of course this is the kind of thing I'd tell you if I meant the exact opposite as well. As usual, (standard disclaimer incoming) you'd have to be a moron to take me at my word here and everyone should always assume that for the purposes of criminal prosecution every record stored on this site is an open book and regardless of what you think of me personally I can be legally bound to lie to you and that I won't go to jail to defy a court (or die, in the case of a physically coercive) order for your benefit.
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2017-07-04 at 9:25 AM UTC
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Girls are frightening
I'm perceiving you so hard right now bro
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2017-07-04 at 9 AM UTC
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Girls are frightening
I feel more anxiety along the lines of being judged for being either too vapid or too stuck up, but I feel a deep spiritual empathy for the dick size issue.
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2017-07-04 at 10:35 AM UTC
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Communism
P.S. You have no idea what "blockchain" means if you think that video is anything other than an investment sales pitch
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Originally posted by Malice
I am absolutely horrified by my own existence.
You make a show of talking about it at, I'll give you that much.
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Originally posted by Phoenix
>he says, while mass deleting scronny posts
Originally posted by greenplastic
finally someone points out the hypocrisy
I'm actually not deleting them, they're all there in the trash forum. Look them over some time and tell me if you think moving them helps or hurts the coherency of threads.
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