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Conflict Shitpile III - Diplomacy Defunct Edition
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2017-11-02 at 11:14 PM UTCThe Israeli flag is now banned in all Iraqi territories on the basis that it's a terrorist state actively trying to fragment the country.
lol.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-11-03 at 12:15 AM UTCIRAQ - ISIS is making a resurgence out of Hawijah province, where unidentified helicopters have often been seen transferring supplies and Iraqi Army offensives have been pushed back indefinitely.
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2017-11-03 at 12:25 AM UTCTHE "ASSAD MUST GO" CURSE STRIKES AGAIN:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/02/michael-fallon-resigned-hours-woman-came-forward-unwanted-sexual/ -
2017-11-03 at 4:45 AM UTCthe victims are coming out of the woodwork everywhere
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2017-11-03 at 11:13 AM UTC
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2017-11-03 at 4:53 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-11-06 at 12:38 AM UTCSAUDI ARABIA - Bunch of interesting stuff going on here.
First, the conflict-related stuff - KSA claims to have shot down a TBM aimed at the Riyadh international airport. Videos taken at the site show interceptors being fired and the sound of a large explosion indicating success but the Saudis' claim of the airport being the target should be taken with a cup of salt. Whenever a missile is intercepted they'll typically claim it was 'aimed at Mecca' or some popular tourist resort, when in actual fact it was aimed at one of their mercenary training camps - the idea being to galvanise greater support for their aggression against Yemen.
I'll repost what I said on facebook about the current situation in KSA:The basic situation is that the Saudi monarchy is totally fucked both politically and financially. Up until now reformation of the government and it's directives has been avoided completely, because it would open the door to the Royals losing power and the country being consumed by chaos.
The new king understands this and sees no way to avoid it - in order to save the monarchy he is making himself the reformer, changing it from a possible 'popular uprising' to modernisation guided by the governent
If you're interested, Pepe Escobar wrote an excellent elucidation of that - I'll find the link if anyone asks.
His 'allowing women to drive' directive a few weeks ago was just testing the water; given the sheer number of corrupt bureaucrats, magistrates and even princes being detained for corruption in the last few days he must know that the end is very fucking nigh. -
2017-11-06 at 1:08 AM UTCOh yeah looks like a bunch of princes went down in a 'helicopter accident' too.
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2017-11-06 at 1:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra SAUDI ARABIA - Bunch of interesting stuff going on here.
First, the conflict-related stuff - KSA claims to have shot down a TBM aimed at the Riyadh international airport. Videos taken at the site show interceptors being fired and the sound of a large explosion indicating success but the Saudis' claim of the airport being the target should be taken with a cup of salt. Whenever a missile is intercepted they'll typically claim it was 'aimed at Mecca' or some popular tourist resort, when in actual fact it was aimed at one of their mercenary training camps - the idea being to galvanise greater support for their aggression against Yemen.
I'll repost what I said on facebook about the current situation in KSA:
If you're interested, Pepe Escobar wrote an excellent elucidation of that - I'll find the link if anyone asks.
His 'allowing women to drive' directive a few weeks ago was just testing the water; given the sheer number of corrupt bureaucrats, magistrates and even princes being detained for corruption in the last few days he must know that the end is very fucking nigh.
that is part of him trying to convince the proles that the royal family should remain in power...the 'lesser' princes are the ones getting tossed under the bus. the family members with more status and prestige get to continue their shenanigans without interruption as long as they dont get ridiculous and keep it under the radar.
a few years ago the proles were about to usurp the royals so the royals literally bribed the proles to let them stay in power. -
2017-11-06 at 1:16 AM UTCSounds about right, but it seems more serious this time - it's not just about hanging on to power, it's about being forced to make major changes to avoid a total collapse
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2017-11-06 at 1:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Sounds about right, but it seems more serious this time - it's not just about hanging on to power, it's about being forced to make major changes to avoid a total collapse
this sort of thing has happened several times. there seems to be a lot of MINITRU memory holes relating to sloppy arabia and their antics. they neglect to mention the internal civil discord...how extensive it it...and how much sloppy arabia involves itself in the internal affairs of surrounding countries and how those actions are the epitome of violations of international laws. you mentioned nigger mercs...thats part of it. -
2017-11-06 at 4:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra KSA claims to have shot down a TBM aimed at the Riyadh international airport. Videos taken at the site show interceptors being fired and the sound of a large explosion indicating success but the Saudis' claim of the airport being the target should be taken with a cup of salt.
Yemeni forces have confirmed they targeted, and will continue to target the airport. I can't find the full statement but they claim that the airport is crucial to the Saudi war effort - I'm not sure if military jets refuel or resupply there or similar.
KSA is now threatening Iran, saying that there's no way the Yemenis could have done it themselves and that helping them in their aggression (lol) against KSA is tantamount to an act of war. -
2017-11-06 at 11:04 PM UTCJesus Christ
After WWII, the US captured many of the scientists practising germ warfare for the infamous Japanese Unit 731 (similar to Paperclip), and employed many of the techniques, such as using rats and fleas to spread haemorrhagic fever, against the Koreans and Chinese during the Korean war -
2017-11-06 at 11:20 PM UTC
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2017-11-06 at 11:56 PM UTCIRAQ - Several commanders who fled their posts in the face of ISIS in 2014 have been given the death penalty.
The commanders in question apparently fled before coming into contact with ISIS forces and even before giving their men the order to retreat - they're in no small part responsible for the amount of current-generation hardware ISIS captured as well as essentially allowing them into Mosul. -
2017-11-07 at 4:57 AM UTC
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2017-11-07 at 11:59 AM UTCThis thread is like one continous shit that you never flush, but keep adding onto.
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2017-11-07 at 12:14 PM UTCDon't listen to him, this thread is great
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2017-11-08 at 6:29 AM UTCThere's so much going on right now (Saudi Arabia and Lebanon mostly, but other actors are using it as cover too) it's hard to make realistic predictions.
SAUDI ARABIA - Saudi Arabia is imploding. As mentioned before, Prince Salman knows that Saudi Arabia's current political and economic trajectory is heading for disaster, so the only option that makes sense to him is the radical change that the House of Saud has been avoiding for decades. On the face of it, he's putting an end to corruption and the associated drain on the state and economy, but what's really happening is he's using corruption as a pretext to stop a coup before it happens. There's been intense infighting among the royals at the best of times but the pressure on the kingdom is unprecedented:
- They're being eclipsed in every way by Iran; from regional influence to the lifting of sanctions breaking the Gulf states' hold on the oil industry. Their oil supplies are not limitless and being unable to control prices has decimated their primary industry (not to mention being forced to drop oil prices through the floor for the last few years in a misguided effort to punish Russia).
- Their proxies, both Al-Nusra and ISIS affiliates in Syria, have been pulverised by the RAAF and SAA and abandoned by the US... The 'revolution' they gambled so much on has been almost completely reversed.
- They're not only losing the war within Yemen, the Yemeni forces are actually striking back at them hard with TBMs, their range and accuracy greatly augmented by both the soldiers' experience and transfer of Iranian missile tech.
All that stress has smashed the Royal family, the government and even the army down factional (tribal) lines. Prince Salman has been facing plot after plot to dethrone him, and he's arresting anyone who isn't supportive of his rule.
The problem for him is that various princes have broad support in various places, and he's creating animosity in those areas when placing them under arrest. The army, for example is the key to power in the country, and it's on the verge of tearing itself apart over split loyalties.
This is pretty amusing to watch, but becomes more sinister when you look at what's going on in Lebanon. Basically the Lebanese president, a hardline US-Israel supporter, has stepped down claiming that he 'fears for his life' over 'Iranian assassins'. This has opened up rifts in the government between Hezbullah and it's supporters and those who support the west (the majority of the people support Hezbullah/Iran, but the split is fairly even in the government).
The situation in and of itself is precarious, but diplomatic cables have also been leaked recently that show Israel is actively colluding with Saudi Arabia in plans to destabilise and break up Lebanon, as both countries have been openly terrified of a 'Shiia crescent' forming, an alliance spanning from Iran, to Iraq and Syria to Lebanon. The main fear is that they would work together in the case of another war with Israel, creating an enormous front that would spread the IDF out too far to have any hope of defending, as well as co-ordinating military systems such as how Russia and Syria are operating now.
Whether a major war in Lebanon kicks off probably depends on two things:
1. Who comes out on top in KSA. The best result for Israel is Prince Salman controlling the country, which is a bet against the odds so you can be sure that Israel and the US are covertly 'stacking the deck' in his favour, one way or another. If the country implodes or an anti-Israel prince takes power, the future becomes unpredictable.
2. What happens in Lebanon. Even in their staggering arrogance the Israelis understand there's less risk to their people if they can effect some sort of breakup or civil war politically - agents are already working toward these ends. If unrest builds into open warfare, Israel will likely wait until the parties are sufficiently weakened and start occupying more Lebanese lands. If not, there are other options (mercenaries, using Wahabbi ideology and the promise of an anti-Shia holy war etc.) to start with, but it'll likely end with a Saudi-Israeli invasion.
Sorry if that's hard to read, stream of consciousness and all thatThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-11-08 at 6:45 PM UTC*gets on my knees*
dear gott, please let there be armed conflict and civil war in spain, please.
amen.
