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I've come to appreciate Finny over the years.
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2019-02-19 at 10:36 PM UTCThe universe is laid out in such a way that any sort of absolutism, even free speech absolutism, is bad. Life is full of judgements, decisions and hard choices.
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2019-02-19 at 10:37 PM UTCThe only reason he does what he does is to get people riled up to this exact point and obviously he’s succeeding.
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2019-02-19 at 10:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Okay, serious question time…
I brought this point up earlier in this thread, but it's worth repeating…
If I came to your house and starting yelling shit from the sidewalk… Are you honestly telling me you wouldn't become annoyed to the point that you'd eventually try to silence me?
There's free speech, and then there's spam.
There is a distinction.
And to whoever the fuck is behind infinityshock, congratulations, because you are officially the first person to force me to make such a distinction in such an edge case scenario.
The Temple of Totse belongs to everyone, not to Lanny, and this place flies under its colors. -
2019-02-19 at 10:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING V: A Cat-Girl/Boy Under Every Bed The universe is laid out in such a way that any sort of absolutism, even free speech absolutism, is bad. Life is full of judgements, decisions and hard choices.
Exactly.
I even explicitly mentioned that my support of finny's ban wasn't easy.
This shit gets complicated in the edge cases.
But all the same, I stand by my ultimately conclusion, and same with Lanny',s -
2019-02-19 at 10:39 PM UTC
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2019-02-19 at 10:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL The Temple of Totse belongs to everyone, not to Lanny, and this place flies under its colors.
DUDE This is NOT the Temple of Totse.
Trust me, if ANYONE on here can get where you're coming from, it's ME.
But this is straight up incorrect.
Lanny PAYS to keep this site running, and he DEVOTES TIME to maintain it.
When Jeff Hunter was doing what he did, he had an entire team of admins, and then, and entire (much bigger) team of mods.
Please tell me you see the difference. -
2019-02-19 at 10:41 PM UTC
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2019-02-19 at 10:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Please don't get me into the whole slippery slope argument.
Man, I have spent WAY TOO MUCH time debating in my own mind (while waiting at a bus stop, or standing in line at the grocery store, etc) contemplating THAT EXACT ISSUE regarding all of this…
But finny, was, ultimately, BREAKING THE RULES.
There are so few rules here that it's kind of a special accomplishment to get yourself banned here.
I'm not trying to argue that banning finny is an easy thing to do. But we HAVE TO DRAW A LINE SOMEWHERE.
How can we prove quality of a post?
How can we prove spam?
How can we prove anything?
We can't.
So administrators have to make judgment calls.
And, no matter what anybody says, I stand by Lanny's call.
And not out of some kind of brownnosing BS. But because I know what it's like to host a website, and I know that I would have likely done THE EXACT SAME THING if I were in his position and I had my own infinityshock.
Did he have to make a judgement call? I don't know if I agree with that. You don't have to read anything you don't want to read here.
I used to appreciate moderators who would help prevent discussion derailment, move off-topic posts and punish repeat offenders. But Lanny can't be here 24/7 to play janitor. People will post off topic bullshit in almost every thread, and usually nothing will be done about it. But maybe it's better that way. Don't feed the trolls and the shit will sink and the cream will rise to the top. The truth, the posts, that really matter will shine through the bullshit and if your topic doesn't maybe that's because it's just more bullshit.
Anyway... I don't think Lanny actually had to do anything. He did, and this is his website, so we have to deal with that. But he didn't have to do anything at all.
And implementing the ability to ignore or block specific users might have been a better choice. -
2019-02-19 at 10:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by ohfralala Fight me.
Lol, how does your ban even work? I don't understand how the world works anymore.
Also, why would you request to have yourself banned?
That has never worked for ANYONE who got to a point in their life that they're requesting a self-ban.
I say that out of love, not judgment. We all been there. -
2019-02-19 at 10:45 PM UTC
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2019-02-19 at 10:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Did he have to make a judgement call? I don't know if I agree with that. You don't have to read anything you don't want to read here.
I used to appreciate moderators who would help prevent discussion derailment, move off-topic posts and punish repeat offenders. But Lanny can't be here 24/7 to play janitor. People will post off topic bullshit in almost every thread, and usually nothing will be done about it. But maybe it's better that way. Don't feed the trolls and the shit will sink and the cream will rise to the top. The truth, the posts, that really matter will shine through the bullshit and if your topic doesn't maybe that's because it's just more bullshit.
Anyway… I don't think Lanny actually had to do anything. He did, and this is his website, so we have to deal with that. But he didn't have to do anything at all.
And implementing the ability to ignore or block specific users might have been a better choice.
Clearly you get it.
A lot of people don't realize that having an INTERNET FORUM is a privilege, not a right.
Free speech applies to EVERYONE, but posting on an Internet forum means you are not only speaking on behalf of yourself, but also on behalf of whomever is providing you with the pulpit to speak from.
Thus, the one providing the pulpit has to make discretionary decisions.
Lanny did EXACTLY that, and he was not in the wrong with how he did it. -
2019-02-19 at 10:50 PM UTC
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2019-02-19 at 10:55 PM UTC( ^ω^ )
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2019-02-19 at 11:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Clearly you get it.
A lot of people don't realize that having an INTERNET FORUM is a privilege, not a right.
Free speech applies to EVERYONE, but posting on an Internet forum means you are not only speaking on behalf of yourself, but also on behalf of whomever is providing you with the pulpit to speak from.
Thus, the one providing the pulpit has to make discretionary decisions.
Lanny did EXACTLY that, and he was not in the wrong with how he did it.
I don't exactly agree with you.
As far as I know nothing finny did or said would have gotten Lanny into trouble with the law.
Lanny didnt have to do anything. He could have done nothing at all. Or could have let the guy have a tantrum and run out of steam. Or he could have implemented an ignore feature so we could all ignore shitty posts and shitty posters would be posting shit nobody would ever see.
Basically I'm saying it doesn't really matter at all but I don't think what he did was really the best choice he could have made. -
2019-02-19 at 11:22 PM UTCNot banning him for 99 years for posting off topic in the meat thread would have been a good start.
It wasn't even off topic but since moderation is at the admins discretion anything he doesn't like could be perceived as "off topic" it didn't seem off topic to me.
(the offending post that got him banned in the first place with 6 thanks)
https://niggasin.space/thread/21061?p=109#post-617583
Originally posted by infinityshock your retarded outlook on the entirety of existence…much less on anything related to morality…has zero validity due to not only your biased position from an excess of female hormones that adversely affect your judgement…but your constant state of intoxication resulting in permanent and severe brain damage.
every post you/your fag-alts made regarding eating meat was shot down and handily contradicted by the more mentally capable posters around here. the entirety of your/your faggot alts position is based on illicit-pharmaceutical-induced delusional rantings
go back and read the post i made that you referred to, you cum-drooling fucktard…it was completely on topic and wholly related to the premise of the thread title, idiot.
to recap:
that was the post you referred to. you took offense because i called out your OP on page-1/post-1 and cited valid scientific studies showing soy-bitches are inherently mentally defective.
you post too much while in an estrogen-fueled stupor.
out-standing reply, ethanol boy. of course we wont discuss it…ill shit all over you and your delusions like a rhinoceros after OD-ing on 'exlax'…a week long taco bell binge…and a block of C4 detonating up its asshole.
its adorable how a zero-effort post from me results in such severe feminine itching and burning on your labia.
same reason you stopped relying to my PMs. youre not up to the standards of being titled 'bitch'…if you were in prison the bitches would make you their bitch.
all you need to know is the extent of your flimsy authorit-aiyyy is to ban me from one single site…this one…which has a negative alexa rating…while being completely impotent as i post what i want…whenever i want…from any other site on the interwebs.
youre going to feel stupid when youre writhing around on the ground…helpless to escape your impending rape…after your excessive soy consumption causes an estrogen toxicity reaction to the extent that your menstrual cramps snap your child-bearing hips like a geriatric granny falling down the stairs from the top floor of a skyscraper and finally landing on the railroad tracks in front of a speeding freight train. -
2019-02-19 at 11:45 PM UTCLanny banned me for ONE post I made supposedly "off topic" in a counterfeit money thread. He PMed me telling me I wasn't allowed to post in the thread again AT ALL so I posted a smiley face & he banned me.
He's also rude & hostile in PMs harrassing me to stay on topic & complaining that "he doesn't like to repeat himself". :/
Most ppl post off topic & he never does anything! -
2019-02-19 at 11:50 PM UTCWho gives a fuck about Infinityshock when there are so many plurals banned simply for existing alongside me (ghost) in the same mind sharing one body
the man who put it in my hood
Alexiisonfire
scrawny the ghost
the loud obnoxious puking guy in a restaraunt
Albert Wesker
Robert with that apparatus
Infinityshockrates
Slow Jimmy
the good ol boys
and so many others :'( -
2019-02-19 at 11:52 PM UTCI like Lanny. I think he should be nicer & maybe ppl won't be bad!
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2019-02-20 at 12 AM UTCOne of our plurals wants to murder Lanny but he can't convince the rest of us it's worth it. Half of us don't really care and the other half are DEEPLY OFFENDED by his actions.
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2019-02-20 at 12:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie I know the gay homo sex jokes and spam are annoying. But we have some overlapping interests. It's not sucking cocks FYI.
Finny knows about more stuff than just guns. Of course, i enjoy gun talk and stuff like that but Finny also knows about forensics, military matters and a lot more. I think it's fairly well established he's ex-military and might have served in some law enforcement capacity at some point.
I like true crime, but not just on a superficial level. I find forensics and criminal psychology fascinating. What's more i like mysteries and puzzles to solve. Every now and again i like to go over missing persons cases, or cold case homicides to see what i can learn. The point is not so much to catch the person responsible, but i like trying to put the puzzle pieces of the circumstances in which a crime or disappearance occurred together to see what i can find out, not just about the victim and the crime, but the mental state of the offender as well.
Every time i have seriously discussed any of such matters with Finny on real cases, he has been able to provide his observations in a compelling manner. When i've had theories as to what transpired in a certain situation i find myself agreeing with Finny's conclusions. We don't have these discussions that often but when we do it becomes clear he definitely knows what he is talking about, when he treats a subject seriously that is.
It would be cool in my opinion, if we could have a thread about forensics and cold cases and such. Basically a sleuthing thread and i think i would enjoy Finny's expertise and company in such a venture. If any of you guys think we should have a sleuthing thread let me know. And i might compile some cases for us to go over. It's fun, i promise.
If you're reading this Finny, hang tight, and try not to piss off Lanny to much. We could have some cool discussions (n_n')
Finny is so clearly the Jacksonville serial killer, look it up, you'll see nobody else could possibly fit the profile.
Would also explain the reason for his interest in forensics.
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