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Conflict Shitpile III - Diplomacy Defunct Edition
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2017-09-29 at 3:24 AM UTC
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2017-09-29 at 3:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra second fighter has been taken prisoner and repeated the same things
SYRIA - STILL LOOKING FOR INDEPENDENT CONFIRMATION - I'm seeing reports that Russia has sparked off an S400, and following the launch put an A50 and two SU35s in the air sometime yesterday. If true, that's hugely troubling and likley jedi-related.
a mainstay flying around doesnt mean much...thats generally standard procedure for them. but...with the flankers added to the mix they might have picked up something they wanted to splash that was more significant that a shitty little drone.
speaking of der juden...theyre a bunch of sneaky and conniving little bastards. and they lie. everything they say is guaranteed to be a lie. its their MO to do stupid shit for absolutely no other reason than to do stupid shit. it wouldnt surprise me in the least if they sent up manned combat aircraft on vectors that they know will spool up the russkies then just before they are in russkie weapons range they make a u-turn back to jediland. -
2017-09-29 at 3:39 AM UTCWell don't I feel safe.
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2017-09-29 at 3:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock a mainstay flying around doesnt mean much…thats generally standard procedure for them. but…with the flankers added to the mix they might have picked up something they wanted to splash that was more significant that a shitty little drone.
I'm more concerned about the S400; the only thing I can see them using those against is some sort of ballistic missile - they've got 200s and 300s at their disposal, and I don't think the Russians have fired off any of their anti-air missiles at all before this... It's always been the Syrians, Russia's line is their missile systems are only for the defence of their equipment at Tartus and Latakia. 400s are expensive and in short supply; they would have to have had a good reason to use it. -
2017-09-30 at 4:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I'm more concerned about the S400; the only thing I can see them using those against is some sort of ballistic missile - they've got 200s and 300s at their disposal, and I don't think the Russians have fired off any of their anti-air missiles at all before this… It's always been the Syrians, Russia's line is their missile systems are only for the defence of their equipment at Tartus and Latakia. 400s are expensive and in short supply; they would have to have had a good reason to use it.
it could be anything. with zero information to go on there are limitless explanations:
- might not even have been a SAM...might have been someone playing with something else that looks like a SAM
- an oopsie-baby. (someone press't the wrong button)
- it was the only option. (the other IADS components were down or unavailable for some reason)
- no reason at all...they just felt like sparking one off for shits and giggles. this happens in RL on a frequent basis. example, true story: while returning from a combat deployment the unit i was in had an excess of certain ordnance. the unit relieving us didnt want it...and we sure as to fuck didnt want to drag the shit all the way back to CONUS...so, it was 'creatively disposed of.' (forest gump voice:) thats all i gotta say about that.
- testing. they wanted to evaluate the system
- something to add to the sales brochure to foreign exports
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2017-10-02 at 7:16 AM UTCI'm thinking of doing a general geopolitics thread instead of just conflict, because a lot of the reasoning behind what's going on isn't directly part of the conflict, it's long-term empire building and energy dominance
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2017-10-02 at 1:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好 Really glad to see you post on this. Bothers me that this is almost never reported on. Even the Ukraine situation barely gets any airtime on major networks.
maybe thats becos you';ve been watching the wrong ''major networks''.
if you want jedi-centric news, watch i24. if you want russo-centric news, watch rt. if you want moslem-friendly news, watch al-jazeerraa.
and then theres cctv, dw, france24, nhk, afp, cnia, bbc and etc etc.
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2017-10-02 at 2:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra MYANMAR - I've been doing some background reading on the situation in the region.
Basically, the Buddhist monks in the region are total dicks.
*against a backdrop of orange robed, masked monks wielding ak-47 running, ducking and firing el k-da style*
those arent real buddhists. those are crazy extremists doing crazy things in the name of buddha and we, the real buddhists condemn these barbaric acts in the strongest term possible.While this has been going on for a long time, popular media only began reporting on issues in 2006/7,
i believe this is a false flag attack perpetrated by the coalition government that runs burma's rich and powerful neighbor to the south as means to garner support from its majority moslem population.
if you follow the conflict you'll notice the pattern that while rohingias do happen from time to time, it almost always happen when the government to the south, led by the unpopular ruling coalition front nationale, are suffering wavering support from its populace. -
2017-10-09 at 3:58 AM UTCneed to force myself to finish writing this, been busy with work and lazy when not working. MoA has about the only decent article about the matter at the moment.
escalation in syria - it's obvious US is using ISIS proxies to attack Russian and SAA forces to slow them down so that SDF can occupy oil-rich regions. Russia has warned them three times that this is unacceptable, is now blasting ISIS command positions without giving the US any forewarning, ostensibly in the hopes of killing SOF groups embedded there and forcing the US to oexpose itself. they (Russia/SAA) seem to also be intent on demonstrating the SDF are acting in bad faith - being mostly YPG reporting to Barzani (ie. the one who's pushing for an independent Kurdistan in Iraq), they're being co-ordinated with ISIS/AN attacks and creeping into the resource-rich regions near Deir Eizzor in the hopes that they can embed themselves and later demand independence. Russia and the SAA see this happening and know that it's not likely they'll be able to avoid direct conflict. It'll either come down to bulldozing the SDF (who the US will claim are 'persecuted' and rally the 'international commmunity' behind) or delegitimising the US' (and Israel's, of course) operations in Syria altogether to the point where support for the project falls through the floor - given that proof has already been given showing that the US is working directly with ISIS, I have no idea what could be used to turn public opinion anymore. -
2017-10-09 at 8:54 PM UTCI could have taken a college course with all the info in this threadThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-10-09 at 10:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra need to force myself to finish writing this, been busy with work and lazy when not working. MoA has about the only decent article about the matter at the moment.
escalation in syria - it's obvious US is using ISIS proxies to attack Russian and SAA forces to slow them down so that SDF can occupy oil-rich regions. Russia has warned them three times that this is unacceptable, is now blasting ISIS command positions without giving the US any forewarning, ostensibly in the hopes of killing SOF groups embedded there and forcing the US to oexpose itself. they (Russia/SAA) seem to also be intent on demonstrating the SDF are acting in bad faith - being mostly YPG reporting to Barzani (ie. the one who's pushing for an independent Kurdistan in Iraq), they're being co-ordinated with ISIS/AN attacks and creeping into the resource-rich regions near Deir Eizzor in the hopes that they can embed themselves and later demand independence. Russia and the SAA see this happening and know that it's not likely they'll be able to avoid direct conflict. It'll either come down to bulldozing the SDF (who the US will claim are 'persecuted' and rally the 'international commmunity' behind) or delegitimising the US' (and Israel's, of course) operations in Syria altogether to the point where support for the project falls through the floor - given that proof has already been given showing that the US is working directly with ISIS, I have no idea what could be used to turn public opinion anymore.
ive been saying that ISIS is a western/US creation, doing the bidding of their western creators. i wrote a long-ass post/thread somewhere about the explanations why ISIS isnt a mudslime-based organization and is a western one. -
2017-10-10 at 12:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock ive been saying that ISIS is a western/US creation, doing the bidding of their western creators. i wrote a long-ass post/thread somewhere about the explanations why ISIS isnt a mudslime-based organization and is a western one.
Anyone who:
A) Has been paying attention to the situation and
B) Hasn't accepted western media narratives without question
should have come to the conclusion that ISIS is a western/Gulf/Turkish/israeli foreign policy tool a long time ago. I remember reading that Ash Carter at some point more or less admitted that ISIS was trained as a Sunni militia in Anbar province and 'got out of control', but I can't find the reference now so I'm not sure how accurate it is.
Among people critical of US foreign policy it's long been assumed that ISIS is to some degree directed and supported by the US, but the claims lacked hard evidence - 'circumstancial' evidence is overwhelming, but there's been little undeniable proof that this was the case. Until Russia released the satellite photos showing US SOF hardware embedded in ISIS strongholds and bases.
Some of the more damning points:- Regular, documented and video-recorded supply drops from unmarked US helicopters into (formerly) ISIS-controlled areas such as Hawijah, Iraq and Deir Eizzor, Syria.
- Evacuations of ISIS commanders after positions fall (notably Deir Eizzor) - the US claims they're arresting them, but there are no official arrest records and the commanders surrender to them willingly.
- Up until Russia entered the war, ISIS' monstrous oil industry was not even mentioned in the western media - joint Russian - SAA - IRGC - Hezbullah attacks on ISIS oil infrastructure turned up large-scale collusion with Turkey, Israel and Gulf states - all close US allies (at the time). The US tried to wage information warfare saying that attacking ISIS' oil infrastructure would only harm civilian interests.
- Further, until Russia began attacking, ISIS was ostensibly being bombarded by the world's most powerful airforce along with several others in the top 10 and still managed to expand across Syria.
- In the very beginning, ISIS expanded by making huge gains against the Iraqi army and taking their hardware and military depots. ISIS was able to take the latest Iraqi tanks and artillery (bought/transferred from the US) and incorporate them into their attacks within 24 hours - the Iraqi army had required 6-24 months of training to operate them effectively. In these days, the ISIS advance was so rapid largely due to the Iraqi army fleeing and leaving their equipment behind - largely a result of 'strategic' commands from higher up.
- Second battle of Fallujah - when it became apparent that ISIS was going to lose Fallujah, the US made a deal to allow them to escape to Syria (ie. to become Assad's problem) instead of them being killed or arrested. Under the cover of night an enormous convoy left the city, but it was spotted and obliterated by Iraqi helicopter gunships. The US tried and failed to call the Iraqis off, eventually saying they needed to back off because the US was going to launch their own attack - they hit nothing.
- 'Train and Equip' program - when it became obvious that attempting to train and vet 'moderate rebels' was a waste of time and money (they ended up spending millions and having five 'moderate' fighters to show for it), they simply dropped the training and vetting part and continued to pump arms into rebel groups… That were openly transferring them to ISIS and Al-Nusra. After the whole Purple Shovel debacle little more was reported so it stood to reason that the project had either stopped or tapered down… NOPE - as it turns out, US ratlines from Eastern Europe have been funneling so many small arms to Syrian rebels that some factories in the Ukraine have actually had to hire 10x their original number of workers to meet demand.
And those are just a few selections - I can't spend the entire day writing these.
But I could.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
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