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2018-12-21 at 12:52 PM UTC in TFW You Realize EVERYONE On Here is an Alt (Solipsism-maxxing)
Originally posted by CASPER That reminds me of another time I got a vibe of something that'd be a killer indie style documentary. There was a video on efukt for a while with a guy and girl that met in tumbler. The girl was really cute. The guy was kind of fat and just looked mad and crazy. Think his handle was sadistic_sid or something. Anyway they meet online and get ina relationship, and eventually he gets her to start doing things and he films it to post online. First 20-30 seconds of the first video is her standing naked in front of a mirror crying, and he's shaving her head and this song is playing
There's pussy mutilation, cutting her breasts, forcing things down her throat, punching her in the face, choking her. Putting knives in her ass. Very little sexual, just a lot of hurting, and the final scene is them both staring in the mirror blankly, with a really lo-if quality. Felt like the kind of video you might see as evidence in a murder trial.
But the vibe I always got from that, I always thought would be an interesting/fucked up indie movie about a girl with mental problems who meets a genuinely fucked up dude, and over the course of a relationship, he breaks her down until she essentially agrees to let herself be eviscerated and vivisected on camera for the sake of art.
This whole narrative is more common than you might think.
There are a lot of sadists in the world, and a lot of masochists.
With the advent of the Internet, it's a lot easier for them to find each other. -
2018-12-21 at 12:44 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny you asked for examples of something that are morally wrong but ethically right, i gabe you just that.
defending a person whos guilty of child mollestation is just morelly wrong even if your tuat persons attorney, but to direllict your duties to defend him would just be plain unethical.
there.
I see where you're coming from, and I'll go as far as to concede that you are right in a certain kind of way.
But there are different levels/scopes of morality/ethics.
If you are opposed to defending alleged child molesters, don't become a defense attorney.
Either you believe in the underlying principle of the right to a fair trial for all, or you don't. -
2018-12-21 at 12:39 PM UTC in What happened to Sophie/Psychomanthis?
Originally posted by Loing I also don't go all day fighting the urge to eat gummi worms. I just don't do it.
Thus supporting my point that the compulsions are incomparable.
Originally posted by Loing Overall, I sincerely have no idea what the fuck your point or argument is whatsoever by talking about obese people. How is that relevant? This is a completely pointless line of discussion, unless you actually make an assertion or ask a pointed question of some sort.
You're trying to compare a food-desire to a sexual compulsion. These are two entirely different things.
But whatever, we can abandon this line of discussion since, you're right, it's going nowhere.
Originally posted by Loing It's just a basic failure of understanding on your part.
Imagine if every woman in the world found you unfuckable and didn't ever want to have sex with you. Would you be able to go through life without raping someone?
This isn't exactly rocket phrenology here.
I imagine I could, but then again, it's a hypothetical that I have no personal experience with.
Hence why I try not to assume what it's like to be in such a scenario.
Originally posted by Loing Let's imagine you are currently chained to a wall and are being ass raped by a massive, bloodlusted nigger who has the key. He will rape you every 6 hours, every day, until you die in captivity. There is a baseball bat within your reach that you can swing and end this. Next time. Do you take a bat to his face?
I absolutely knew you would bring up such a hypothetical.
It's why I, at the last minute, edited my post to include the word "virtually" in there.
I did that because I could predict that you would bring up some kind of ridiculously unrealistic hypothetical scenario and try to say "AHA! So you WOULD take a bat to someone's face! GOT YOU!".
There's a huge difference between admitting that in such a contrived hypothetical scenario you would have to resort to violence, and what you said earlier in this thread.
You seem to relish in some kind of anticipatory desire to use violence.
That's where we differ.
We both oppose adults having sex with children.
You, on the other hand, fantasize about violence towards those who do. -
2018-12-21 at 12:31 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Loing He's trying to cosplay that right now
I'm assuming you're referring to this thread in SG (for those reading this who don't read every single thread on NiS).
For the record, I was in agreement with you on "having sex with children is wrong."
It was when you started talking about taking baseball bats to people's faces that we diverged so greatly.
Whodathunk you could be against sex with children AND sports-paraphernelia-related assaults at the same time? -
2018-12-21 at 12:28 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny immagine your an attorney for an alledged pedo.
If you spend three years in law school and still haven't learned about legal ethics, you done fucked up somehow.
If you don't believe in the legal system (i.e. the right to a fair trial - a right to which EVERYONE is entitled to - regardless of the crime they are alleged to have committed), then don't become a lawyer.
It's not rocket science. -
2018-12-21 at 12:17 PM UTC in What happened to Sophie/Psychomanthis?
Originally posted by Loing What a dogshit means of comparison. I honestly can't believe you typed this post thinking it was remotely coherent.
1. Everybody eats, not everybody has sex (as evidenced by the level of virginity on this site). If you don't eat, you fucking die. If you don't fuck, you don't die.
2. Less than 0.04% of the US population are registered sex offenders, meaning that 99.96% of the US population have the self control to not indulge their sexual urges as inappropriate.
Right, because only (approximately) <1% of society are pathological to such an extent.
I certainly hope you're not implying that you spend all day, every day, exercising the restraint necessary not to commit some kind of sex offense.
I mean, if you do, I'm impressed, and I mean that with 100% sincerity.
For all I know, the source of your strong stance might be that you have an attraction towards children yourself? I'm not throwing around blind accusations. Statistically speaking, you probably are not attracted to children.
But I just wonder how you have so much insight into what it's like to feel compelled to commit a sex offense.
Originally posted by Loing What would it take for you to consider baseball batting someone's face?
I wouldn't.
That's the thing.
There is virtually no scenario in which such an act is necessary. -
2018-12-21 at 12:07 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatAgain, it comes down to splitting hairs.
You might feel "MORALLY" compelled to do one thing while you are "ETHICALLY" compelled to do another.
But you're just using inconsistent definitions of "MORAL" and "ETHICAL". -
2018-12-21 at 12:02 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny doctor-patient confidentiality.
attorney-client confidentiality.
non-disclosure agreememts.
i can go on but im tired.
So you morally oppose all of the above forms of confidentiality?
Or do you mean that there are specific scenarios in which they will conflict?
If you follow ethical guidelines but are absolutely convinced that you are doing something immoral, you have a duty to do what's morally right.
Don't become a doctor if you disagree with the guidelines.
I would be 100% comfortable with abiding by confidentiality because I believe in it.
In fact, let's even take a highly controversial example just to be extra sure...
Let's say I'm a lawyer, and I know that my client is guilty, I can still defend them because of the morally greater good of abiding by the letter and spirit of the law.
If someone can't handle such situations, they have no business being doctors, lawyers, etc. -
2018-12-21 at 11:51 AM UTC in Write a very superficial take on popular philosophers.Some people do things. Actions occur in congruence with other actions whenever temporal extension occurs. For some, the doing of things is tantamount to the carrying out of activities.
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2018-12-21 at 11:48 AM UTC in I currently do not have an erection.
Originally posted by GGG You should give helpful advice on how to get a good feel for your liver and your body and your health care condition is a good thing for you to actually show your health benefits
If I could take a quantitative measure of my liver, or overall-body, health at any given moment, I would.
I don't have a built-in liverometer, though. -
2018-12-21 at 11:44 AM UTC in What happened to Sophie/Psychomanthis?
Originally posted by Loing If so, my point stands and you have to tell me what's so different between the two.
People refrain from sexual indulgences as they do with food.
Hmm... what is the difference between wanting to eat candy and wanting to have sex?
Something like 66% of Americans are medically overweight.
Implying that ~33% have the self-control to sustain a healthy weight.
Virtually everyone has sex.
Something tells me one indulgence is easier to say no to than the other.
Originally posted by Loing Idk wtf you are babbling about.
I'm just trying to make sense of where your hatred comes from.
Not having it myself, it takes some effort to grasp.
As much as I oppose adults having sex with children, I don't have any compulsion whatsoever to take a baseball bat to anyone's face. -
2018-12-21 at 11:41 AM UTC in What happened to Sophie/Psychomanthis?.
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2018-12-21 at 11:02 AM UTC in Write a very superficial take on popular philosophers.
Originally posted by Lanny He's pretty much just pressing his phone's auto-suggest on repeat with a little guidance in the middle. Although I suppose that's more of a "how" than a "why"
I've seen him do it before...
I mean, I do all kinds of drugs, often times in combination with one another, so I know what's like to wake up to see myself having sent weird texts to people and so on, but never anything that. It's usually just a few typo's maybe.
Auto-correcting entire paragraphs is just... strange. I guess only he knows the "why". -
2018-12-21 at 10:59 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-12-21 at 10:50 AM UTC in What happened to Sophie/Psychomanthis?
Originally posted by Loing Do you believe it to be a difference of degree or a difference of kind?
My first inclination is to say that's one of degree.
But I'm not entirely sure it's not different in kind as well.
Similarly, it depends on whether you consider addicts to have a "disease", or even whether or not you consider those with Autism to be compelled to act the way they do.
Free will seems to be a gradient thing.
So I guess you're just as "compelled" to hate a certain group of people as they are to be "morally despicable." -
2018-12-21 at 10:45 AM UTC in What happened to Sophie/Psychomanthis?
Originally posted by Loing No dimwit, the point is that I have a strong urge based on preference, but I'm also not a helpless chimpanzee and I can understand that gratifying it isn't the same thing as doing something good.
Except that there's a different between gratifying a food-based preference and a sexual preference.
Maybe I was wrong to give you the benefit of the doubt earlier.
If you actually conflate the two, that's pure ignorance. -
2018-12-21 at 10:43 AM UTC in What happened to Sophie/Psychomanthis?Do they have to be the sour variety?
What does that add to the whole experience? -
2018-12-21 at 10:36 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-12-21 at 10:34 AM UTC in What happened to Sophie/Psychomanthis?
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2018-12-21 at 10:29 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatI implore someone to give me just ONE example of something being MORALLY right yet ETHICALLY wrong, or vice versa.
