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2017-02-20 at 4:26 PM UTC in Bounty: Kill SpectraL-SpectraL is like an antique. He is a reminder of the good ol days.
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2017-02-11 at 11:34 PM UTC in Ricky and morty vs south parkI enjoy them both.
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2017-02-11 at 4:17 PM UTC in How do you normally dress?Normally I wear pants like this:
And a sweater like this (without the Polo shirt):
Depending on how much snow is on the ground I either wear steel toe boots or my sneakers:
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2017-02-08 at 11:21 PM UTC in HaircutMy barbershop is run by a Lebanese family. Costs 20 dollars. I would like to get my hair cut every 2 weeks but that usually doesn't happen.
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2017-02-07 at 10:01 PM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
Originally posted by Captain Falcon No, you completely missed the mark on what actual physical probabilism is. In the present day, the position that most scientists agree upon is that quantum mechanics are truly random. There are debates to this day about whether or not Bell's theorem actually establishes that (for example superdeterminism), but for the most part, to the best of our knowledge, it simply is. Accept that.
Some people try to argue that the fact that QM is random, doesn't mean that our universe at large is not deterministic, or has random elements. Which is honestly retarded. There are a lot of physics related discussion beyond your level of knowledge right now to explain it but let me give you a simple scenario to illustrate that that argument is facile:
Imagine you are a quantum physicist. You conduct an experiment where a detector observes a truly random quantum event and tells you the outcome. This information, which has been randomly generated, informs your decision to pick A or B on a test. Bam, determinism broken.
I honestly don't understand your reasoning; in fact, from where I am it looks like you're just saying the world isn't deterministic because "quantum mechanics", without giving me the line of reasoning between your proposition and your conclusion. The example you provided doesn't make any sense to me. It doesn't looks like you broke determinism, it just looks like you forgot to include or are unaware of all the variables. Please feel free to attempt to explain this further.
If determinism is an illusion as was claimed earlier, why does the world appear to be deterministic? -
2017-02-07 at 7:20 PM UTC in Life Update: February 2017Hey RisiR, what is life?
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2017-02-07 at 7:02 PM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
Originally posted by Captain Falcon You have retardedly mangled the Monty Hall problem into an unrecognisable mess, and your setup does not lead to your conclusion. The probabilities completely exist, but they are a concept meant to quantify your chances of getting the right answer in the absence of information regarding what is behind a given door.
The point is that probabilism doesn’t imply indeterminism. -
2017-02-07 at 4:07 PM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.The important thing to understand is that probabilism is about "knowledge" or lack there-of (epistemic) and determinism is about causes "existing" (ontic)...and it's important not to confuse the epistemic as being ontic.
Imagine, if you will, three doors (doors A, B, and C). You know for 100% fact that a gold bar is behind one of the doors and donkeys are behind the other two, you just have no idea which door the gold or donkeys are behind. You have a 1/3 chance of opening the gold bar door if you could only pick one. Sarah, another person, however, knows that door C has a donkey, but she doesn’t know if the gold is behind A or B. Unlike you, she has a 50% chance of picking the gold bar door. Another person, Billy, however, knows that door A and door C have the donkey, so he knows 100% that B has the gold bar (as he knows a gold bar is behind one of the doors that doesn’t have a donkey).
The probabilities differ based not on the probabilities being “actual” but rather the knowledge the person possesses. The assessment of a 1/3rd probability or 50% probability are simply in the heads of the individuals (you and Sarah) who do not have the full knowledge that Billy has.
The probabilities aren’t something that actually “exist” in reality, other than existing as a thought in a brain. The gold bar doesn’t really have a 1/3rd chance of being behind any door, in reality it is 100% behind door B, as Billy happens to know. -
2017-02-07 at 11:47 AM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
Originally posted by snab_snib wrong, the universe is PROBABILISTIC. it's undecided what it's going to do next. some things are just more reliable than other things. we don't really understand anything, fundamentally; we create nuclear power plants and space ships and radios and computers using rule-of-thumb engineering tricks that were established through trial and error.
your question is null. 'how can x work if the universe isn't perfect clockwork' applies to everything. radios don't require a deterministic universe. free will isn't even negated by a deterministic universe. and in fact, the universe could be deterministic while humans or life is non-deterministic. and if you look and think hard enough, you come up with the same answer that so called scientists have for why gravity works or why the speed of light is so and so.
"that's just how it fucking is"
It's important to point out that probabilism and determinism are not mutually exclusive. A system can be entirely deterministic, yet we might be able to only assess a probability for an event within the deterministic system.
In other words, probabilism does not imply indeterminism, at least for how the terms determinism/indeterminism are used in physics and philosophy. -
2017-02-07 at 4:07 AM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
Originally posted by snab_snib first, explain what you think the two things {determinism and the minds radioactive nature} have to do with each other, and second, explain if you're aware that a radio receives and amplifies?
A radio doesn't just randomly work the way we expect it to - it works the way we expect it to because nature is deterministic and predictable, we have studied it and learned about it and built devices like radios based on our understanding of the deterministic way reality works. If the world is not deterministic, things should happen randomly for no reason. That isn't how the world appears to be, so if determinism is an illusion why is the mind a meat radio? Why and how does the world appear to be deterministic if it is as an illusion as you claim? -
2017-02-07 at 2:21 AM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
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2017-02-06 at 10:05 PM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
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2017-02-06 at 7:21 PM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.Freewill is a sort of illusion. You are not the author of your own thouhts; that would require that you think about what you're going to think about before you think it. Thoughts arise in the mind due to a combination of forces, some of which you have no control over at all.
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2017-02-06 at 7:16 PM UTC in I just earned $100 for 5 minutes work, I feel like I just violated someone...
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2017-01-30 at 10:03 PM UTC in How do you become a better person?
Originally posted by Clutch Where do morals come from? I try to be moral but it doesn't take much to make me do as much horrible shit as I possibly can to a person. Basically I have morals, but as soon as someone pisses me off I don't have morals anymore. Does anyone here have any morals that they stick to, and how can it be done?
Basically morality is a personal and subjective sense of what is right and what is wrong. Ethics is morality from a societal or group perspective. It's ok to sometimes act in a way that you feel is wrong, it's actually important to an individuals survival to be able to behave "wrongly" in certain situations.
As you already said, you already have a sense of morality. But if I understand your post correctly your problem is that whenever someone makes you upset you act or behave in a way you would otherwise feel is wrong. To put it simply you lose control. Therefore your problem is not one of morality but of self control and discipline.
If you agree that this is your problem and you want to find a solution to this problem, you need to work on your self control. A lot of human behavior is surprisingly unconscious, heavily influenced by things you don't actually have a lot of control over. You could try to work on controlling your emotions instead of letting them control you, thinking before you act, maintaining a clear and alert mind, and realizing the consequences of your behavior and accepting the responsibility that comes with your actions. -
2017-01-30 at 7:26 PM UTC in The retarded thread: Fuck, §m£ÂgØL made one first edition
Originally posted by Brain surgeon alright, i got another shitty warehouse job. Orientation is tomorrow and i really hope they dont drug test me.
What happens when you fail a drug test? Are you shit out of luck or do they let you try again later? -
2017-01-30 at 3:33 AM UTC in How can you read when highly fucked up?
Originally posted by Lanny The very fabric of our psyche is built out this language, and yet it's not ours by birth.
You ever look into Julian Jaynes theory on consciousness? Parts of it are outdated but it's still a great work full of interesting ideas and connections and he basically claimed what you said above, that modern human consciousness as we know it today is sort of built out of language and metaphor. He claims 10 k years ago the humans mind was very different, and that consciousness as we know it developed at the same time as the written word.
Learning language changes the way parts of your brain develop. Children who grow up outside of normal society or who are extremely neglected and don't learn language have physically different brains and after a certain age it becomes impossible for them to ever develop normally. This clearly affects their mind as well.
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2017-01-28 at 9:31 PM UTC in Where do you think you'll be 17 million years from now?
Originally posted by Sophie Yeah, that was pretty stupid. I've been to Calgary, dope place. Went to Edmonton to shop and shoot guns then went into the Rockies and visited Banff and Lake Louise. That was dope as well.
Did you see the thread about transniggers? I wanted to hear your opinion on that. -
2017-01-28 at 5:30 PM UTC in Where do you think you'll be 17 million years from now?
Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump Lol chicken. TENDIESS!!!
Judging by the address and phone number on that receipt and a quick Google search, you live in the same city as me and bought your expensive meal at the new popeyes chicken in forest lawn. -
2017-01-25 at 10:47 PM UTC in Jacking off into a urinal
Originally posted by the holy ghost a faggot skewl
with a principal who expelled me for poking a girl with a pencil
Hey probably wanted to expell you just for being a fucking loser and only used the pencil poking as an excuse to do it.
