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2017-02-07 at 11:47 AM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
Originally posted by snab_snib wrong, the universe is PROBABILISTIC. it's undecided what it's going to do next. some things are just more reliable than other things. we don't really understand anything, fundamentally; we create nuclear power plants and space ships and radios and computers using rule-of-thumb engineering tricks that were established through trial and error.
your question is null. 'how can x work if the universe isn't perfect clockwork' applies to everything. radios don't require a deterministic universe. free will isn't even negated by a deterministic universe. and in fact, the universe could be deterministic while humans or life is non-deterministic. and if you look and think hard enough, you come up with the same answer that so called scientists have for why gravity works or why the speed of light is so and so.
"that's just how it fucking is"
It's important to point out that probabilism and determinism are not mutually exclusive. A system can be entirely deterministic, yet we might be able to only assess a probability for an event within the deterministic system.
In other words, probabilism does not imply indeterminism, at least for how the terms determinism/indeterminism are used in physics and philosophy. -
2017-02-07 at 4:07 AM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
Originally posted by snab_snib first, explain what you think the two things {determinism and the minds radioactive nature} have to do with each other, and second, explain if you're aware that a radio receives and amplifies?
A radio doesn't just randomly work the way we expect it to - it works the way we expect it to because nature is deterministic and predictable, we have studied it and learned about it and built devices like radios based on our understanding of the deterministic way reality works. If the world is not deterministic, things should happen randomly for no reason. That isn't how the world appears to be, so if determinism is an illusion why is the mind a meat radio? Why and how does the world appear to be deterministic if it is as an illusion as you claim? -
2017-02-07 at 2:21 AM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
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2017-02-06 at 10:05 PM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.
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2017-02-06 at 7:21 PM UTC in The mind is a meat radio.Freewill is a sort of illusion. You are not the author of your own thouhts; that would require that you think about what you're going to think about before you think it. Thoughts arise in the mind due to a combination of forces, some of which you have no control over at all.
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2017-02-06 at 7:16 PM UTC in I just earned $100 for 5 minutes work, I feel like I just violated someone...
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2017-01-30 at 10:03 PM UTC in How do you become a better person?
Originally posted by Clutch Where do morals come from? I try to be moral but it doesn't take much to make me do as much horrible shit as I possibly can to a person. Basically I have morals, but as soon as someone pisses me off I don't have morals anymore. Does anyone here have any morals that they stick to, and how can it be done?
Basically morality is a personal and subjective sense of what is right and what is wrong. Ethics is morality from a societal or group perspective. It's ok to sometimes act in a way that you feel is wrong, it's actually important to an individuals survival to be able to behave "wrongly" in certain situations.
As you already said, you already have a sense of morality. But if I understand your post correctly your problem is that whenever someone makes you upset you act or behave in a way you would otherwise feel is wrong. To put it simply you lose control. Therefore your problem is not one of morality but of self control and discipline.
If you agree that this is your problem and you want to find a solution to this problem, you need to work on your self control. A lot of human behavior is surprisingly unconscious, heavily influenced by things you don't actually have a lot of control over. You could try to work on controlling your emotions instead of letting them control you, thinking before you act, maintaining a clear and alert mind, and realizing the consequences of your behavior and accepting the responsibility that comes with your actions. -
2017-01-30 at 7:26 PM UTC in The retarded thread: Fuck, §m£ÂgØL made one first edition
Originally posted by Brain surgeon alright, i got another shitty warehouse job. Orientation is tomorrow and i really hope they dont drug test me.
What happens when you fail a drug test? Are you shit out of luck or do they let you try again later? -
2017-01-30 at 3:33 AM UTC in How can you read when highly fucked up?
Originally posted by Lanny The very fabric of our psyche is built out this language, and yet it's not ours by birth.
You ever look into Julian Jaynes theory on consciousness? Parts of it are outdated but it's still a great work full of interesting ideas and connections and he basically claimed what you said above, that modern human consciousness as we know it today is sort of built out of language and metaphor. He claims 10 k years ago the humans mind was very different, and that consciousness as we know it developed at the same time as the written word.
Learning language changes the way parts of your brain develop. Children who grow up outside of normal society or who are extremely neglected and don't learn language have physically different brains and after a certain age it becomes impossible for them to ever develop normally. This clearly affects their mind as well.
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2017-01-28 at 9:31 PM UTC in Where do you think you'll be 17 million years from now?
Originally posted by Sophie Yeah, that was pretty stupid. I've been to Calgary, dope place. Went to Edmonton to shop and shoot guns then went into the Rockies and visited Banff and Lake Louise. That was dope as well.
Did you see the thread about transniggers? I wanted to hear your opinion on that. -
2017-01-28 at 5:30 PM UTC in Where do you think you'll be 17 million years from now?
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2017-01-25 at 10:47 PM UTC in Jacking off into a urinal
Originally posted by the holy ghost a faggot skewl
with a principal who expelled me for poking a girl with a pencil
Hey probably wanted to expell you just for being a fucking loser and only used the pencil poking as an excuse to do it. -
2017-01-19 at 7:10 PM UTC in Transniggers
Originally posted by RisiR This made me laugh, though.
I want to hear from Sophie in particular because I think he can relate to this. The world claims his condition is a psychiatric illness. I believe he prefers to define himself rather than accept how the world defines his condition as an illness. Would it be hypocritical of him to disagree with trannys doing the same thing?
It makes me laugh how hard you're trying to shit on this thread though. Whatever I did to you, it must have really gotten under your skin. I like how people are posting a variety of opinions on this topic, it's a lot of food for thought. -
2017-01-19 at 3:17 PM UTC in TransniggersLanny, Sophie, I really wanted to hear your opinions on this topic.
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2017-01-19 at 1:13 AM UTC in Those grapes you cannot taste are always sour.Said the fox.
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2017-01-18 at 4:12 PM UTC in Transniggers
Originally posted by RisiR In your fucking face, Obbe.
Why would that fly in my face RisiR? -
2017-01-18 at 1:02 AM UTC in Transniggers
Originally posted by snab_snib you're looking for logic and some sort of rational foundation in their madness.
there isn't any.
OK but I have one question for you: what matters more, how the world defines you or how you define yourself? -
2017-01-18 at 12:40 AM UTC in Transniggers
Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump It's all a stunt to sell a book
]http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/rachel-dolezal-s-new-book-announced-twitter-reacts-1790889203
That's a lot of time and life to pour into a stunt. -
2017-01-18 at 12:35 AM UTC in Transniggers
Originally posted by a·nom·a·ly Riser thinks she is so clever by spamming this thread with a meme. That is surely something someone with a worthwhile existence would do.
I just dont understand why she gets so mad that people are discussing something that she feels the need to crash the thread. But I guess I will never understand women.
RisiR is just butthurt. Bill Krozby is just a tard. -
2017-01-18 at 12:24 AM UTC in TransniggersThanks for the well thought out reply, it will serve as food for my thought while I form an opinion on this.