Originally posted by Open Your Mind
"I totally got you."
"No, I totally got you."
When the curtain comes down and the hero and the villain step out hand in hand, the audience applauds both, because they know that the hero role and the villain role are only masks.
There's just a relative manifestation of consciousness appearing, and then given a bunch of ideas like a name, a religion, a nationality, and he clustered those together into something that is supposed to be a personality, but when closely examined we discover that none of that stuff is actually real.
What's going on right now is people are asking themselves "Who am I?" and they become depressed because they keep trying to hold up this image to the world, show the world how successful they are and how much better they are, and that's what depression is, when someone is trying to be the Wizard of Oz instead of the sweaty guy behind the curtain. Oz is just a character. People are trying to "be someone" for the world.
So behind the scene, under the surface, that is to say "in reality" we are all the actor. You are not the you that you think you are.
Originally posted by Open Your Mind
Some compatibilists insist that even if our thoughts and actions are the product of unconscious causes, they are still our thoughts and actions. That our unconscious neurophysiology is just as much "us" as our conscious thoughts are.
But I think these compatibilists change the subject. They trade a psychological fact - the subjective experience of being a conscious agent - for a conceptual understanding of ourselves as persons. This is a bait and switch. The psychological truth is that people feel identical to a certain channel of information in their conscious minds. This is like saying we are made of stardust - which we are. But we don't feel like stardust.
At this moment you are making countless unconscious "decisions" with organs other than your brain - but these are not events for which you feel responsible. Are "you" producing red blood cells at this moment? Your body is doing this, of course, but if it "decided" to do otherwise you would consider yourself to be the victim of these changes rather than their cause. To say that you are responsible for everything that goes on inside your skin because it is all "you" is to make a claim that bears absolutely no relationship to the feelings of agency and moral responsibility that have made the idea of freewill an enduring problem for philosophy.
There are more bacteria in your body than human cells. Many of these organisms perform necessary functions - they are "you" in some wider sense. Do you feel identical to them? If they misbehave, are you morally responsible? This is the trouble with compatibilism. It solves the problem of "freewill" by ignoring it.
How can we be "free" as conscious agents if everything that we consciously intend is caused by events in our brain that we do not intend and of which we are entirely unaware? We can't. To say that "my brain" decided to think or act in a particular way, consciously or not, and that this is the basis for my freedom is to ignore the very source of our belief in freewill: the feeling of conscious agency. People feel that they are the authors of their thoughts and actions, and this is the only reason why there seems to be a problem of freewill worth talking about.
Post last edited by Open Your Mind at 2017-06-09T22:10:13.127849+00:00
fucking damn plagiarists these days. i'll link to the source for you, seeing as you failed to in order to look like an inter-lectural an all that.
i never mentioned that place was a probation service hostel. it is, just one in a different city to where i live. so he's obviously gone to all the trouble of researching it. a lot of trouble to go to for somebody who wasn't serious.
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Originally posted by mmQ
They still all have the stupid bags that are like 40% content and 60% air even though everyone knows that's what's up. Why don't they just stop doing that at this point?
its not air, its nitrogen. they pump it into the bags to keep them fresh. if any oxygen got in the bag they would go stale by the time you got to eat them.
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Originally posted by aldra
having dinner with someone else's family
on the floor
meeting a chicks family for the first time. you got that whole unspoken 'yeah hi i'm fucking your daughter, so nice to meet you' shit going on the whole time, lol. nothing more awkward than that.
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