2017-11-30 at 6:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by 霍比特人说中文不好
This is the most retarded thing I've read all day.
OK §m£ÂgØL, tell us what you think communism is according to Marx. I could use some amusement.
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2017-11-30 at 8:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon
I mean, I guess. But I don't see how any system at all functions without any government of any sort, even if in principle everybody equally shares in the memes of production. I'm just having a hard time picturing what such a system would look like. Could you talk more about it?
Marx doesn't give us super specific details on how he imagines it working but absence of a state is certainly central. It's not uncommon to see people propose systems wherein something like money continues to exist but the means of production aren't for sale. So like a doctor can practice his trade and receive a token of the full value of his labor and maybe that's more value than a janitor or not, depends on who you ask, and he can go spend that on things, generally luxuries, but he can't invest it or buy a factory. In this way self-interest continues to motivate people towards economically productive activity but alienation of labor is systematically impossible. It's kinda hard to pull that reading directly from Marx but it's one take. There's a lot of hand waving about how you generate value tokens and enforce the way they're used, a common tactic is to shout Hegel and run in the opposite direction, but this isn't really any different than talking about invisible hand wankery so it's hard to get too mad.
For the record I like a lot of Marx's critique but don't see communism as either inevitable (as Marx did, a common misunderstand is that he presented communism as some kind of moral imperative, in his mind it was a historical inevitability) or likely to remain stable.
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2017-11-30 at 1:33 PM UTC
I getcha. I don't have any specific comment on your post but it answers my question.
I think communism certainly isn't inevitable (actually modern Marxists are less dedicated to seizing the memes of production than to studying why Marx's predictions failed) but technological socialism is.
2017-11-30 at 1:57 PM UTC
*Slips into $3k jacket*
*Sits down at computer, forever*
2017-11-30 at 2:01 PM UTC
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 M's in bank account..
2017-11-30 at 3:26 PM UTC
I have to stop taking phenibut I think, GABAergic drugs make me way too depressed anymore. Oddly enough alcohol doesn't really do that to me but it seems anything else that hits on GABA does.
2017-11-30 at 4:02 PM UTC
Tolerance breaks are rarely a bad thing.
2017-11-30 at 4:02 PM UTC
Obbe
Alan What?
[annoy my right-angled speediness]
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2017-11-30 at 4:19 PM UTC
i've been zmoking spice. if i smoke one tiny leaf i trip my ass off for 20minutes
2017-11-30 at 4:21 PM UTC
like i smoke a pinch the size of a rice grain and go into a hardcore dissociative trip with open eye hallucinations
this is awesome
2017-11-30 at 4:33 PM UTC
I thought they didn't sell that stuff anywhere anymore outside the DNM
2017-11-30 at 4:35 PM UTC
I wouldn't mind puffing some JWH-018 again but that shit is probably almost as bad for you as meth.
2017-11-30 at 4:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by RestStop
Tolerance breaks are rarely a bad thing.
It's hard because my daily anxiety is so bad I basically need something daily just to function properly but at this point I can't tell if it's helping or making me feel worse overall. Going back on benzos won't work out for me.
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