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2018-03-02 at 6:43 AM UTCI never exposed an unborn child to drugs which could potentially significantly affect the rest of it's life. I have never fucked up a life like that before it even got started. I'm also not a prostitute who may have spread HIV to several people and is willing to continue to expose people. You kinda have to wait until your HIV goes under the radar before it's safe again.
The most scumbag thing I do is like, go to work hungover once or twice a month. And I'm not affecting anybody's life by doing so.
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2018-03-02 at 7 AM UTC
Originally posted by Locnar9 I know you don't, Lanny, and respect and appreciate that you don't, but first off, where at all did I say I was using opiates since I've been pregnant, and for that matter, in the recent past, prior to my pregnancy, at least in any regular fashion. I cannot afford opiates, first off, nor do I want to pay those prices, hence why I have been using T-PAIN for so long. Granted, I have, prior to pregnancy used them periodically, but with no regularity, and we are talking months to years in usage, and usually those have been to treat severely acute painful episodes, and most have been prescribed use to boot.
I've heard, uhh, conflicted reports on that one and I pretty sure even you mentioned you used opiates during your prior pregnancy. But fine, let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're only taking T-PAIN. This still seems irresponsible.I agree, that T-PAIN quite possibly has more unforeseen risks, since, unlike traditional opiates, it has less usage, which means less information regarding it's long term effects that it could possibly have on users, and a fetus, especially, which is why if I could, I would switch to a traditional opiate, rather than stay on T-PAIN, but that's no feasible for me.
You could, you know, just not take drugs? Or if you have the medical issues you claim, get the assistance of a medical professional in treating them. If your thesis that opiates really are safer than T-PAIN then you should have no problem getting a doctor to prescribe them.Regarding detrimental effects on exposed children, what exactly are you referring to?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3188826/
2001 meta study has this to say:In summary, studies of prenatal opiate exposure and infants’ early cognitive development have yielded mixed results, but there seems to be a pattern linking the exposure to behavioral problems, including increases in ADHD and other disruptive behaviors.
The study is mainly concerned with cognitive effects but also notes:Heroin exposure decreases birth weight, birth length, and head circumference
but it's often the case a doctor will prescribe drugs that do pose risks, risk sometimes far greater than opiate usage, when the risk is warranted for particular conditions in the mother during pregnancy. MANY woman are on methadone throughout their entire pregnancy. It's often pushed for in cases where mother's are addicted to heroin, because cold turkey discontinuation could, and often does result in miscarriage, poses a greater risk to the fetus than if continued on an opioid
It's true, this is a course of action doctors sometimes take in weighing the risks and benefits of a given intervention during a pregnancy. No doctor has done this in your case however.Hell, I am being prescribed an antiepileptic drug currently, for my seizures, which began not that long ago, and have been encouraged to take that during my pregnancy. Should I be shamed for using that as well? Where a doctor is advocating it's usage, and there is a huge risk of injury to myself, and my unborn child if I continue seizing sometimes upwards of a dozen times a day, some days? or what about propranolol, another which is prescribed to me because of my tachycardia, and aneurysm?
No, I encourage you to follow the medical advice of your doctor. Neither taking T-PAIN nor opiates is the advice of your doctor.I have thought it through, and tried to do the best research I can, and feel that the reward out weighs the risk regarding my T-PAIN usage.
Not to be a dick but you're never going to feel that your continued (ab)use of opiates or a stand-in for opiates has greater risks than reward as long as you are physically dependent. You're not a medical professional, and even if you were, you would still be unable to make an unbiased call here. The responsible course of action would be to fully disclose your use and health conditions to your (licensed) doctor and develop a course of action form there, not self-medicating with internet-drugs while pregnant. -
2018-03-02 at 7:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by Locnar9 Well, that isn't what you said when I was in a relationship with you, nor even after. You'd encouraged me to put my weight back on at one point, which, hey, nothing wrong if you like heavy girls, but, definitely goes against what you're trying to out across here.
I agree that looks are subjective, and while I have struggled with my self esteem, and how I see myself, I do see that there are enough men out there who do find me attractive these days, and more than just a few. Attractive enough to chase me for a relationship, to fuck, to even pay to fuck me, and to want to marry me, and the last of those is the only one that truly matters to me, that my soon to be husband finds me attractive and is satisfied with me.
Your opinion of me means nothing anymore, §m£ÂgØL, and the only reason I even mention it, is because of the contradictory statements you've made. It's clear you're just trying to hurt feelings, which is quite sad, in my opinion. Funny someone would try to do that, regarding physical appearance, when they literally have a dish in the middle of their chest, and as a 20 something year old, look 12, which I guess is why you can't be picky.
I told you to put on weight because you were eating like an anorexic and it was unhealthy. I also told you that you should get surgery to snip off your rolling waves of skin.
Should I post a picture of you naked so that we can all compare who is better looking? I'm leagues ahead of you bitch. And if you haven't figured it out yet, the only reason that you get hit on is because you have a vagina and tits. Basically every woman gets hit on unless they are something utterly grotesque.
And unlike you, I never complimented you on your looks. Only clothes. Because yeah, pushing up the rubber sacks of drooping pancake batter that you call tits makes it look like you have actual, you know, tits. You used to compliment both things you've commented on here. So it's strange to see you do a 180, especially when you've even commented on this site about how handsome I am. Even when you were with POC.
Also commenting on a medical condition of mine is pretty low. Even for you. Do you want to make fun of my aortic valve too? Because you can. But the rest of me is in good shape because I take care of it and exercise regularly.
In Bipolar's words, you are not a 'traditionally attractive woman' which is another way of saying 'ugly.' -
2018-03-02 at 7:18 AM UTCGuys, I just realized that by clicking a series of buttons on my computer in the correct fashion I can cause complicated synthetic molecules to materialize in my mailbox that, if consumed, will induce pleasant or intense or mind bending states.
That's crazy. I can change my brain chemistry using a computer and a vast digital and clandestine pharmacological network.
I can hire a hooker online too. And order food. And I can generate the money for those things with my computer as well.
I'm so fucking good at clicking shit that it's now basically the only survival skill I need.
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2018-03-02 at 7:19 AM UTCWell obviously you can order a hooker. How do you think bipolar got hydro?
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2018-03-02 at 7:21 AM UTCIsn't that insane? You can find a wife or husband on the internet? Like it's just a mouse and a keyboard but you can effect significant change on the state of the world that way.
Our ancestors had to know how to hunt and flee and forage and make a bunch of tools and care of children and plan for their survival. But we know the secret spells. The arcane patterns of clicking and everything that was possible for earlier man, and so much more, is possible for us.
I can turn my lights on and off with my keyboard.
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2018-03-02 at 7:41 AM UTCWhat's more insane to me is the thought that there are thousands of children born every year that probably wouldn't have been born were it not for the internet. Also the diseases that spread due to the increasingly connected world we now live in. Imagine if people could travel in 1100 like they do now. Humans would be ded.
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2018-03-02 at 8:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by Locnar9 where at all did I say I was using opiates since I've been pregnant, and for that matter, in the recent past, prior to my pregnancy, at least in any regular fashion.
what a manipulative, tricky bitch
note how she doesn't deny it. she's literally just asking "where did you hear I was doing opiates", in the hopes that lanny won't be able to give a proper source, allowing her to not admit it.
if she really hadn't done opiates while pregnant, she would have flat out just said she hadn't.
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2018-03-02 at 8:54 AM UTCYou guys care way too fucking much about this shit
Even if you're right do you really think you're going to change the minds of anyone involved? -
2018-03-02 at 9:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by Locnar9 I know you don't, Lanny, and respect and appreciate that you don't, but first off, where at all did I say I was using opiates since I've been pregnant, and for that matter, in the recent past, prior to my pregnancy, at least in any regular fashion. I cannot afford opiates, first off, nor do I want to pay those prices, hence why I have been using T-PAIN for so long. Granted, I have, prior to pregnancy used them periodically, but with no regularity, and we are talking months to years in usage, and usually those have been to treat severely acute painful episodes, and most have been prescribed use to boot.
I agree, that T-PAIN quite possibly has more unforeseen risks, since, unlike traditional opiates, it has less usage, which means less information regarding it's long term effects that it could possibly have on users, and a fetus, especially, which is why if I could, I would switch to a traditional opiate, rather than stay on T-PAIN, but that's no feasible for me.
Regarding detrimental effects on exposed children, what exactly are you referring to? Granted, I don't think any pregnant woman should be using any drug recreationally, but it's often the case a doctor will prescribe drugs that do pose risks, risk sometimes far greater than opiate usage, when the risk is warranted for particular conditions in the mother during pregnancy. MANY woman are on methadone throughout their entire pregnancy. It's often pushed for in cases where mother's are addicted to heroin, because cold turkey discontinuation could, and often does result in miscarriage, poses a greater risk to the fetus than if continued on an opioid(remember, high levels of cortisol, and in my case, and others with chronic pain, would result in extended exposure of cortisol, hence why even drugs like hydrocodone, and even dilaudid are prescribed to pregnant woman isn't terribly uncommon for pain issues that arise). I know after speaking to pregnant woman the other day. She was on pain killers for a few years, discontinued, got pregnant, and said she "knew she'd go back to using" for all the stress going on in her life currently, so she was placed on methadone without even being physically dependent, which I personally think is stupid, and a poor choice, but I guess, if she's really struggling, would be no different than someone being on an SSRI, or other antidepressant, or even anti-psychotic, where the risk of self harm, or other negative behaviors would pose a far greater risk than the use of those drugs.
Hell, I am being prescribed an antiepileptic drug currently, for my seizures, which began not that long ago, and have been encouraged to take that during my pregnancy. Should I be shamed for using that as well? Where a doctor is advocating it's usage, and there is a huge risk of injury to myself, and my unborn child if I continue seizing sometimes upwards of a dozen times a day, some days? or what about propranolol, another which is prescribed to me because of my tachycardia, and aneurysm? I have thought it through, and tried to do the best research I can, and feel that the reward out weighs the risk regarding my T-PAIN usage. (methadone withdrawals are fucking terrible for a baby to have to go through cold turkey, and it would also be an issue for me to breastfeed if I were on it. My son, being breast fed for first 3 months solely, and half and half for 6 months, then as much as possible until first year, did not have a single day of WDs, nor any negative symptom from exposure, or discontinuation, which another reason I have decided to continue this route) Some may agree, some may disagree, but if I truly thought it would be in the best interest of my unborn child to discontinue, I would, without a second thought. This is not me trying to justify my usage, nor making excuses. Even with that, my seizures get much worse when I go through WDs off T-PAIN, and that's even when I've had traditional opiates to help out, which again, is another risk. Of course no doctor would prescribe or encourage it's usage here in the states, for one, because most have no fucking clue wtf it is, secondly they would be worried about malpractice, telling a pregnant woman to take a drug not approved by the FDA here, and another reason is $$… they got to keep the legal drug dealers (methadone clinics, since you know damn well, regardless of if my usage is warranted for legit pain or not, I would be lumped in as a drug addict for using drugs without a script if they knew about it) in clients, and also bill insurance for as much as they can.
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2018-03-02 at 9:26 AM UTC
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2018-03-02 at 10:38 AM UTCleave the girl alone, she just trying to survive in this fucked up crazy world.
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2018-03-02 at 10:53 AM UTC
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2018-03-02 at 10:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Enter that's what her daughter will be doing when she's battling with AIDS
so what she supposed to do, go sit in a chair at home and not move till she rots away and dies? life involves risks, we all just gotta accept that's how it is. sitting there crying and moaning that life isn't fucking perfect isn't gonna help you in any way. i mean just look at you're sorry little life.
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2018-03-02 at 11:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist so what she supposed to do, go sit in a chair at home and not move till she rots away and dies? life involves risks, we all just gotta accept that's how it is. sitting there crying and moaning that life isn't fucking perfect isn't gonna help you in any way. i mean just look at you're sorry little life.
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she can not have the baby, and just raise and support the one she already hasThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-03-02 at 12:57 PM UTC
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2018-03-02 at 11:26 PM UTCA lot of those girls have masculine facial features for some reason.
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