2018-01-24 at 9:28 PM UTC
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All these mexicans but we'll never spic again
2018-01-24 at 9:33 PM UTC
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Tuskegee Airman
[spic of the devil]
I bet you were russian to make that pun.
2018-01-24 at 9:34 PM UTC
Jesus christ, debates about free will are as bad as debates about the existence of god.
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2018-01-24 at 9:37 PM UTC
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2018-01-24 at 9:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by Malice
Jesus christ, debates about free will are as bad as debates about the existence of god.
They're basically the same thing.
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2018-01-24 at 9:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS
If your will is predetermined, it's not free. It's bound by determinism.
I hope you can recognise that that's
literally circular reasoning
If you dont have agency over what you will, you don't have agency over executing those wills - to execute a will without willing the execution would be unwilling, so not free. If you execute your will because you willed to execute it, you've admitted that your will do so was predetermined, and therefore not free.
I'll word this as a syllogism so I can isolate your specific beliefs:
Assume you are in fact a being whose decision making can be assumed to be proximally truly free (I say "proximally" because if we assume it is ultimately free then the argument would be circular).
You stumble upon two options laying before you: option A, a heavily undesirable option, and option B, which is an overwhelmingly superior and highly desirable option. Of course you choose option B. Is this a free choice?
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2018-01-24 at 10:05 PM UTC
Does believing in determinism help you cope with the fact that you beat your lover to a pulp under a bridge?