Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while alive

1. 2018-01-24 at 9:28 PM UTC

   #341
   

   Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
   All these mexicans but we'll never spic again
2. 2018-01-24 at 9:33 PM UTC

   #342
   

   Vizier Tuskegee Airman [spic of the devil]
   I bet you were russian to make that pun.
3. 2018-01-24 at 9:34 PM UTC

   #343
   Malice Naturally Camouflaged
   
   
   
   Jesus christ, debates about free will are as bad as debates about the existence of god.
   The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!

   • HTS, 
   • aldra, 
   • The Self Taught Man
4. 2018-01-24 at 9:37 PM UTC

   #344
   

   Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
   All these 72s but you still weren't a virgin
5. 2018-01-24 at 9:37 PM UTC

   #345
   

   HTS highlight reel

   Originally posted by Malice Jesus christ, debates about free will are as bad as debates about the existence of god.

   
   They're basically the same thing.
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   • Obbe
6. 2018-01-24 at 9:39 PM UTC

   #346
   

   Vizier Tuskegee Airman [spic of the devil]
   Jihad me at "Hello"
7. 2018-01-24 at 9:39 PM UTC

   #347
   

   Daily an(nu)ally [dissolutely whisk the pantheon]
   
8. 2018-01-24 at 9:56 PM UTC

   #348
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by HTS If your will is predetermined, it's not free. It's bound by determinism.

   
   I hope you can recognise that that's literally circular reasoning
   
   

   If you dont have agency over what you will, you don't have agency over executing those wills - to execute a will without willing the execution would be unwilling, so not free. If you execute your will because you willed to execute it, you've admitted that your will do so was predetermined, and therefore not free.

   
   I'll word this as a syllogism so I can isolate your specific beliefs:
   
   Assume you are in fact a being whose decision making can be assumed to be proximally truly free (I say "proximally" because if we assume it is ultimately free then the argument would be circular).
   
   You stumble upon two options laying before you: option A, a heavily undesirable option, and option B, which is an overwhelmingly superior and highly desirable option. Of course you choose option B. Is this a free choice?
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   • Daily
9. 2018-01-24 at 9:59 PM UTC

   #349
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by HTS And if you think being free to do what you were predetermined to will yourself to do is free will, that's just fucking asinine.

   
   But you will to do it and you can do it unfettered, therefore it is free.
10. 2018-01-24 at 10:01 PM UTC

    #350
    

    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]

    Originally posted by Captain Falcon …You stumble upon two options laying before you: option A, a heavily undesirable option, and option B, which is an overwhelmingly superior and highly desirable option. Of course you choose option B. Is this a free choice?

    
    Are you going to Jihad, after all is said and done?
11. 2018-01-24 at 10:02 PM UTC

    #351
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by Daily

    
    
12. 2018-01-24 at 10:03 PM UTC

    #352
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by -SpectraL Are you going to Jihad, after all is said and done?

    
    I don't know bro, it doesn't behoove us to discuss it because I have no agency over whether or not I do.
13. 2018-01-24 at 10:04 PM UTC

    #353
    

    HTS highlight reel

    Originally posted by Captain Falcon But you will to do it and you can do it unfettered, therefore it is free.

    
    Calling this free will is like saying you chose not to be floating right now. You have as much power over your will as you do over gravity.
    
    The fact that you can do things unfettered has nothing to do with whether your will itself is unfettered. I called this a strawman because it is an entirely different freedom - the freedom to act.
    
    If your will itself is fettered, it is not free. Neh?
14. 2018-01-24 at 10:05 PM UTC

    #354
    

    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]

    Originally posted by Captain Falcon I don't know bro, it doesn't behoove us to discuss it because I have no agency over whether or not I do.

    
    Soooo... you're saying there is a possibility you could blow yourself up in a crowded shopping mall?
15. 2018-01-24 at 10:05 PM UTC

    #355
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Does believing in determinism help you cope with the fact that you beat your lover to a pulp under a bridge?
16. 2018-01-24 at 10:08 PM UTC

    #356
    

    HTS highlight reel

    Originally posted by 哈哈你看不懂中文 Does believing in determinism help you cope with the fact that you beat your lover to a pulp under a bridge?

    
    Not even remotely. I don't even believe in determinism. 😂😂😂
17. 2018-01-24 at 10:14 PM UTC

    #357
    Malice Naturally Camouflaged

    Originally posted by 哈哈你看不懂中文 Does believing in determinism help you cope with the fact that you beat your lover to a pulp under a bridge?

    
    Who did this? Details? This sounds juicy.
18. 2018-01-24 at 10:16 PM UTC

    #358
    

    HTS highlight reel

    Originally posted by Malice Who did this? Details? This sounds juicy.

    
    ... me? Sorta?
19. 2018-01-24 at 10:17 PM UTC

    #359
    

    Vizier Tuskegee Airman [spic of the devil]

    Originally posted by HTS … me? Sorta?

    
    Was it that time you met up with some totse user for a fight or something?
20. 2018-01-24 at 10:18 PM UTC

    #360
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by Malice Who did this? Details? This sounds juicy.

    
    https://niggasin.space/thread/18139