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2017-12-05 at 6:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon Because people are too trusting in their obscurity. They think they're too small to matter.
Then Mr Chatterjee Six-Pack's son says some unpopular shit in private and 20 years later becomes politically relevant.
The suddenly
The NSA has that shit on tape because your Samsung TV was always watching and listening, and they leak it to the internet.
It could be anyone. The president of 2060 is probably shitposting on /r/Politics right now. He's fucked. Geopolitics are being decided as we speak because we're too quick to push "ok" on the permissions for shitty mobile games. The decision to kill millions are being made right now. But we don't know it. 43 years from now, whatever actual cabals exist that have infiltrated the highest levels of our societies and governments could seize control, are arming up to seize control right now.
It's brilliant. It's like planting a seed today so you can take a shot to assassinate the Malaysian prime minister in 50 years from the cover of its leaves. It's terrifying.
Hah, I can't really get into the topic without going on a spastic tangent that's just going to drown in TRT, but so far the opposite seems to be true - according to Binney, Snowden and other ex-contractors the main problem the NSA has is that there's so much garbage collected every second of every day that it becomes impossible to find 'credible threats' or other useful information. It's kind of like looking for a needle in a haystack in a vat of human excrement (you get tetanus).
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2017-12-05 at 6:30 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Hah, I can't really get into the topic without going on a spastic tangent that's just going to drown in TRT, but so far the opposite seems to be true - according to Binney, Snowden and other ex-contractors the main problem the NSA has is that there's so much garbage collected every second of every day that it becomes impossible to find 'credible threats' or other useful information. It's kind of like looking for a needle in a haystack in a vat of human excrement (you get tetanus).
—there was a bunch of rambling about the purpose of having two different data/sigint operations essentially under the same command (ie. NSA and CIA's in house sigint department) here but I lost track of the point I was trying to make—
The problem is simply finding who, not looking at their data.
Locating WHO is a legitimate terrorist threats to America based off usage information? Sure, that's a hard one.
But you already have so much data collected. If you knew whose data you're looking for, it's easy. -
2017-12-05 at 6:36 AM UTCi got stoned as fuck for 45 min with like 0.1 weed using a water bong
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2017-12-05 at 6:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon The problem is simply finding who, not looking at their data.
Locating WHO is a legitimate terrorist threats to America based off usage information? Sure, that's a hard one.
But you already have so much data collected. If you knew whose data you're looking for, it's easy.
I guess, but we're talking about exabytes of data - with that sort of volume you're introducing all sorts of problems and considerations that most people would never have to even think about... Even the power costs of just keeping that much data, let alone figuring out ways for it to be searchable in any meaningful way would be astronomical -
2017-12-05 at 6:46 AM UTC
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2017-12-05 at 6:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by jimmy i got stoned as fuck for 45 min with like 0.1 weed using a water bong
A water bottle filled with like an 1/8th - 1/4 of water with a half of a ink pen stuck in a hole in the side/middle then tape as a sealer around it was my go to in high school for years. If you do it right it cuts down the weed you usually need in like half. -
2017-12-05 at 6:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by RestStop A water bottle filled with like an 1/8th - 1/4 of water with a half of a ink pen stuck in a hole in the side/middle then tape as a sealer around it was my go to in high school for years. If you do it right it cuts down the weed you usually need in like half.
lol, for when your neighbours start locking up their hoses at night -
2017-12-05 at 6:55 AM UTC
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2017-12-05 at 6:59 AM UTCi am gotter ex woodchucker MAXIMUM BABYYY
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2017-12-05 at 7 AM UTCall the stoner kids around here used to make bongs out of gatorade bottles and a piece of garden hose, and because they were all retarded they'd chop a section out of the middle of the hose every single time, not the end
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2017-12-05 at 7:02 AM UTCFLEX-OY---V-O-Y-M----US
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2017-12-05 at 7:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I guess, but we're talking about exabytes of data - with that sort of volume you're introducing all sorts of problems and considerations that most people would never have to even think about… Even the power costs of just keeping that much data, let alone figuring out ways for it to be searchable in any meaningful way would be astronomical
The whole feasibility/reasonability argument went out the window with the very first Snowden leak. Without that one nerd who decided to be a hero, if I told you today that the same NSA facilities exist that we now know to be a fact, you would say it was infeasible, impossible to keep secret etc.
The information we already know from the leaks that are years old now basically outlines the most absurdly expensive, extensive, dangerous mass surveillance instrumentation that would absolutely never be approved by the American public if it were every discussed in a public forum, has already been implemented. It's basically a political disaster scenario... And we still wouldn't have known about it today if one measly guy hadn't slipped through the cracks.
My point is that the US government has already displayed an absurd and irrational commitment to this mass surveillance campaign. The storage space doesn't matter. The NSA practically has unlimited funds and no oversight because the American public is too afraid of a threat that has killed less Americans in the entire history of this country (terrorism), than stepladder accidents in the last year.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-12-05 at 7:09 AM UTCOh. I've never heard of a garden hose water bong. We also just always did the pen tube into plastic bottle, I don't even remember what we used for the bowl itself, either a removable metal bowl from a metal pipe or I think some pens had a metal cone tip that could be removed and turned upside down as a smaller bowl. Or we used washers and nuts and sink screens. It was kinda neat looking back at how crafty we were with makeshift pipes/bongs before we were all just smart enough to get normal glassware.
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2017-12-05 at 7:14 AM UTCi zoz
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2017-12-05 at 7:33 AM UTC[video]https://vimeo.com/143299033[/video]
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2017-12-05 at 7:34 AM UTCImplement Vimeo embed Gaylord
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2017-12-05 at 7:34 AM UTC
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2017-12-05 at 7:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon The whole feasibility/reasonability argument went out the window with the very first Snowden leak. Without that one nerd who decided to be a hero, if I told you today that the same NSA facilities exist that we now know to be a fact, you would say it was infeasible, impossible to keep secret etc.
The information we already know from the leaks that are years old now basically outlines the most absurdly expensive, extensive, dangerous mass surveillance instrumentation that would absolutely never be approved by the American public if it were every discussed in a public forum, has already been implemented. It's basically a political disaster scenario… And we still wouldn't have known about it today if one measly guy hadn't slipped through the cracks.
My point is that the US government has already displayed an absurd and irrational commitment to this mass surveillance campaign. The storage space doesn't matter. The NSA practically has unlimited funds and no oversight because the American public is too afraid of a threat that has killed less Americans in the entire history of this country (terrorism), than stepladder accidents in the last year.
intent vs. practicality - I don't disagree on the former... even before Snowden we knew they were operating with zero oversight and brazen disregard for any control
that said though, since 2001 the only terrorists the FBI have managed to catch are people they themselves organised so unless their only work is interfering with foreign dignitaries they're not doing a terribly effective job -
2017-12-05 at 7:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra intent vs. practicality - I don't disagree on the former… even before Snowden we knew they were operating with zero oversight and brazen disregard for any control
that said though, since 2001 the only terrorists the FBI have managed to catch are people they themselves organised so unless their only work is interfering with foreign dignitaries they're not doing a terribly effective job
Yeah that's why I think the mass surveillance isn't for catching terrorists. It is an instrument of tyranny. It's being set up today so it can be used to grab us by the balls decades from now. Watch. When it happens and finally comes out, I want you to remember that I told you so. -
2017-12-05 at 8:18 AM UTCspice is one tiny hit moderatw the zoo
