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The Retarded Thread: Get Rekt, Faggot!
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2017-11-25 at 12:43 AM UTCi've been stuck in this fucking retarded thought loop for days/weeks/months/years where I obsess over whether I feel guilt/empathy or I'm just convincing myself I do because of OCD and then I'm having trouble telling the difference between pro-social emotions and anxiety. Like is it guilt or anxiety? what's the difference? how can I tell the difference?
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2017-11-25 at 1:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by jimmy i've been stuck in this fucking retarded thought loop for days/weeks/months/years where I obsess over whether I feel guilt/empathy or I'm just convincing myself I do because of OCD and then I'm having trouble telling the difference between pro-social emotions and anxiety. Like is it guilt or anxiety? what's the difference? how can I tell the difference?
If you can't differentiate between the two then by all rights there simply is no difference. Aside from their meanings of course.
Though to be fair it's still probably a good thing to want to differentiate them with the hopes of addressing them individually. I've a similar quandary with feeling depressed vs feeling lazy, the latter of which I tend to view as an effect of the former.
It makes it easy for me to justify doing nothing 'because I'm sad' but it's to the point where I'm probably playing a psychological game with myself that's holding me back from taking certain actions that ultimately would be of benefit to myself.
I don't know if that is relative to your situation but it kind of seems like it.
Honest question for you: Do you think right this moment you would be comfortable in skinning a kitten alive? Its one thing to watch videos online but if you don't have any desire to perform those acts yourself that would be very telling one way or the other.
Remember this isn't a fucking quiz. The default answer should be fuck no, but don't try to convince yourself that you could or couldn't. Just say yes, or no. -
2017-11-25 at 1:38 AM UTCwhy would i
maybe for 100$ -
2017-11-25 at 1:59 AM UTCDo you still actively seek out animal torture online? Why would you do THAT for free?
Obviously there are varying levels of empathy and it's evident you at least have some. Your answers are meaningful.
'Maybe for $100' is way different than 'Yeah I don't fucking care as long as I get some cash or bumdy.'
My first guess is that you want to be capable of turning off and on your empathy at will so you can avoid the shitty feels without altogether losing the ability to empathise.
That's why I asked if you'd be comfortable skinning the cat. No money. If the act itself gives you no pleasure or discomfort either way, that means something. There's a lot of variables here mcsplooge. -
2017-11-25 at 2:12 AM UTCi never actively seeked out animal torture online
i didn't know empathy deficit = desire to skin animals alive
like does everyone with below average empathy skin cats alive for no reason? -
2017-11-25 at 2:22 AM UTCi'd say i do have empathy or don't if i was able to disentangle it from OCD obsessive anxiety. like every time some minor transgression happens i start OCDing "did i feel bad, what was that, am i just going into a thought loop again, am i feeling bad because i did something or am i feeling bad because of my anxiety because of my OCD about feeling bad makes me think i'm feeling bad when i'm not to make me go crazy, or do i actually feel bad? how would i know if i did, how can i distinguish these different sensations whether positive or negative" it's like a neverending mindfuck of self analysis
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2017-11-25 at 2:25 AM UTClike how can i prove if i feel a certain feeling, when my only reference point is my own experiences? it's like if you thought you were colorblind but couldn't prove it, so you spent all of your thinking time ruminating on whether what you consider green is actually green or is the real green a different green
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2017-11-25 at 2:26 AM UTC
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2017-11-25 at 3:05 AM UTCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i dont know i dont knowwww
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2017-11-25 at 3:05 AM UTCNo, they don't. People with no empathy at all don't do that. I just wanted to determine that a) you aren't a sadist
B) you are in fact capable of understanding that a cat would feel pain
You say you aren't sure if you're trying to convince yourself that you're empathetic but that's not really an optional thing. You know what emotions feel like. When something is hurting, you understand what that means.
I think it's a matter of how sympathetic you are, not empathetic. A person with a genius level IQ shouldn't need to convince himself he understands feelings. The better question would be if you care.
If you'd genuinely skin a cat alive for $100 that's pretty indicative of a lack of sympathy by any normal standards, and if that makes you feel guilty it's probably because you know you should care but either you aren't sure how to turn that switch on/up or you can't turn it on/up.
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2017-11-25 at 3:09 AM UTC" Emotional empathy, also called affective empathy or primitive empathy, is the subjective state resulting from emotional contagion. It is our automatic drive to respond appropriately to another’s emotions. This kind of empathy happens automatically, and often unconsciously. It has also been referred to as the vicarious sharing of emotions.
Cognitive empathy is the largely conscious drive to recognize accurately and understand another’s emotional state. Sometimes we call this kind of empathy “perspective taking.”
i know i have the latter. not sure about the former. i'd give myself like a 2/10 emotional empathy 5/10 cognitive empathy -
2017-11-25 at 3:09 AM UTCI'm in love!
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2017-11-25 at 3:16 AM UTCGod, being alive is depressing. I suppose the feeling of personal autonomy is a critical factor I'm missing. Still, even in a lottery scenario, I'd likely return to baseline within a few years. Hmm, no, it's not inevitable.
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2017-11-25 at 3:19 AM UTC
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2017-11-25 at 5:08 AM UTC
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