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wtf is goinf n in poland and belarus fuys?

  1. #21
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by aldra polan wants all the free EU money without obeying any of the rules

    To be fair EU rules are designed to erode national sovereignty.
  2. #22
    Donald Trump Black Hole
    If Germany wants all these refugees they should be forced to keep them. Places like Greece and Poland should give them free transport to get rid of them. Let diversity be Germany and England's strength.
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  3. #23
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker To be fair EU rules are designed to erode national sovereignty.

    that's the EU's entire purpose, it's meant to be a stepping stone to some kind of federation


    point is Poland's trying to be tricky by taking advantage of the state welfare program but not taking any of the responsibility or obligations

    if I were concerned about national sovereignty I wouldn't have joined the EU in the first place, but then how would I move to England to be an illegal plumber
  4. #24
    Donald Trump Black Hole
    It's going to be tits when Ukraine joins the EU.
  5. #25
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Donald Trump It's going to be tits when Ukraine joins the EU.

    I'd doubt it'll happen. it's got nothing to offer the EU or NATO outside of strategic position and its upkeep cost isn't worth that.

    I might write a thread about it later but it's looking like the US is going to cut it loose entirely; let Russia take a chunk and be economically crippled trying to salvage it
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  6. #26
    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    what has poland got to offer or had in 2014 outside strategic position?
  7. #27
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    They're taking a page from Hungarys 0laybook is what they're doing
  8. #28
    Donald Trump Black Hole
    Originally posted by Wariat what has poland got to offer or had in 2014 outside strategic position?

    Cheap workers, agricultural land, and coal.
  9. #29
    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    ukrainians are even cheaper worker and they have the donets basin or what hitler called the breat and butter or wheet of the soviet union no? hence for invading it?
  10. #30
    Donald Trump Black Hole
    Originally posted by Wariat ukrainians are even cheaper worker and they have the donets basin or what hitler called the breat and butter or wheet of the soviet union no? hence for invading it?

    Yeah, that's why I always assumed that the EU would take it eventually. The agricultural land in Ukraine is amazing. It's easy to see why someone like Hitler wanted it.
  11. #31
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Wariat ukrainians are even cheaper worker

    The EU doesn't really need any more unskilled workers; there's already infrastructure for the west to exploit semi/skilled workers inside the Ukraine. Amazon and other tech companies already outsource a bunch of stuff there, from repetitive monkeywork to train AI to high level programming.

    Originally posted by Wariat and they have the donets basin or what hitler called the breat and butter or wheet of the soviet union no? hence for invading it?

    The majority of arable land and natural resources are in the East, and even if the Donetsk/Lughansk regions don't get absorbed into the Russian Federation the rebels are not going to rejoin with Kiev unless they have a high degree of autonomy. In that case they'd reject any integration with the EU/NATO
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  12. #32
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Donald Trump Yeah, that's why I always assumed that the EU would take it eventually. The agricultural land in Ukraine is amazing. It's easy to see why someone like Hitler wanted it.

    do they actually get upset if you call it the Ukraine IRL or is that just a social media thing?
  13. #33
    Donald Trump Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra do they actually get upset if you call it the Ukraine IRL or is that just a social media thing?

    I didn't notice anyone getting upset so far. Mostly I just say Kyiv though, since I only ever be in Kyiv.
  14. #34
    Donald Trump Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra The EU doesn't really need any more unskilled workers; there's already infrastructure for the west to exploit semi/skilled workers inside the Ukraine.

    There is always a requirement for more crop pickers and service staff. America imported about 100 million squatemalans, and they still complain about how hard it is to find staff.

    Amazon and other tech companies already outsource a bunch of stuff there, from repetitive monkeywork to train AI to high level programming.

    I think high tech and finance and the like is the only thing that works in Ukraine because all you need is an internet connection, so there is nothing material for the oligarchs to steal. It's very hard to do business in Ukraine as a normal company, and companies keep having to leave the country due to encountering hostile bullshit. Tech salaries in Ukraine tend to be a joke by western standards, like €600 a month.

    The majority of arable land and natural resources are in the East, and even if the Donetsk/Lughansk regions don't get absorbed into the Russian Federation the rebels are not going to rejoin with Kiev unless they have a high degree of autonomy. In that case they'd reject any integration with the EU/NATO

    Also they are way better off in Russia, since they get much higher wages and a much higher pension. Pensions in Ukraine start at about $30 a month, which probably doesn't make much sense to us, but it's literally all old people get to live on. Military widows and the like get more, but not much.
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  15. #35
    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    this video needs to be seen polish border guards acting out:
    facebook.com/notesfrompoland/posts/2103268046515061
  16. #36
    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Bill Crimson and Clover

    No you're the repeater. Peter
  17. #37
    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    Apparently this shit is getting out of hand guys and my mom now is trying to get me out of Poland as shes convinced there is about to be war here. I also just read that the migrants attacked polish soldiers or borer guards with tear gas armed by belarus or Lukashenka and my mom thinks ruskis or russians are trying to start a war here now like Ukraine a few yrs back.
  18. #38
    Nile bump
    I hope the Russias and France/Germany carve up Poland and make it prosperous again.
  19. #39
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Wariat Apparently this shit is getting out of hand guys and my mom now is trying to get me out of Poland as shes convinced there is about to be war here. I also just read that the migrants attacked polish soldiers or borer guards with tear gas armed by belarus or Lukashenka and my mom thinks ruskis or russians are trying to start a war here now like Ukraine a few yrs back.

    cool
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  20. #40
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Nile I hope the Russias and France/Germany carve up Poland and make it prosperous again.

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