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2022-03-31 at 5:47 AM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
Originally posted by Sudo Your first sentence is a 1 sentence paragraph that is barely English.
Your "source for military history" were some fake numbers from a Wikipedia article.
"High cost" isn't just troop casualties, it's financial, soft power and influence etc. It's caused russia to be more isolated and distanced from previous partners and caused Europe to pivot away from them. The ruble freefell for a few weeks and capital flight was/is rampart. Besides that, they've lost at least 7k troops (a Russian news site wrote an article stating 10k had died a week ago before taking it down) but more than that the troops are entrenched and demoralized. Generals have been killed, pilots have been captured and paraded in front of the cameras, russia has been losing the propaganda war, the economic war and can't reach their geopolitical objectives anytime soon with how things are going.
I know it's cute to be edgy and super against the mainstream like the unique little snowfake you are but when you have to grasp so hard and still be without substance, that's kind of an indication your position isn't based in reality. There is obviously a fog of war but were over a month in and russia hasn't consolidated or expanded upon their initial gains.
If you knew anything about combat you would know they're not in a desirable position. Russia will have to pay further costs to get to a position where they can realistically make some strategic gains.
Do you have ANY source for Russias efforts going according to plan and likely to result in their desired objectives in the near future?
Do you have any source that they're not except supposition? Argument presented without evidence requires no evidence to refute.
Besides which you're missing the point entirely, probably deliberately.
-They know the power of ukraine
-They would have planned from the start to meet resistance
-Nobody plans for the battle to go perfectly and to meet all objectives day one, that's retarded
-They haven't got a numbers advantage, and at best their training and equipment are only slightly better (or worse in the case of infantry weapons)
-The US would never pass up a chance to interfere and vassal states always go along with them
All of that was known from before the war started, which means it was known to the russian state before the war
If it's not something you can understand that wars aren't quick then I don't know what to tell you
Edit: Ah shit Aldra already said most of what I meant before this, I'll read all I missed fully next time. -
2022-03-30 at 11:19 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
Originally posted by Speedy Parker If you knew anything you would know that numbers mean very little compared to training, morale, and where you are fighting.
If you knew anything about the current conflict you'd know that numbers are the deciding factor, similar if not identical training descended from the same schools, well familiar ground considering it's previously held territory and right on their border, and with many legitimate can point to objectives vs defending their land(many of which just want to flee)
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2022-03-30 at 10:51 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
Originally posted by Sudo What? There's still no discernible point here or evidence that Russia isn't stalled and bogged down (for 3 weeks) so it's pretty clear you're just trying to be contrarian and edgy. Whatever gets you off, kid but there is no reality where the tepid progress at a very high cost has been what Russia was hoping for. Sorry reality contradicts the edgy narrative you want to substitute
If you're not seeing the point you're barely more than a retard, russia is attacking a well supported equal size force to what the americans were with less troops themselves, try some basic mathematics and read some military history.
And what high cost? the numbers put out by US intel or ukraine? you know the biased ones? in fact not even all of the western media agrees on a number and many are close to what russia themselves have been saying, right up to state affiliated media like the bbc.
If you're taking a single one of those at face value then you're helpless. -
2022-03-30 at 8:42 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
Originally posted by Sudo What? Is there supposed to be a point here? That Russia might have wanted a stagnated stalemate quagmire with minimal onjecrives attained and long term repercussions? Sure thing, Sun Tzu.
I'm glad you brought up the invasion of Iraq, in that, the US started with targeted airstrikes setting the ground conditions, then moved with regional and international allies in thr north send south, quickly destroying infrastructure and seizing strategic objectives like the basra oil field and kicking the iraqi army out of the north within days. They encountered little resistance alot of the way and only had a few hundred casualties. Comparing, at this point they were about to take Baghdad and victory was certain. Obviously a very different scenario. Russia did a few things right (using Belarus to launch troops but didn't use mpldova/transnistria for some reason, perhaps because the part of Ukraine is borders is prett5 irrelevant) and made attempts to take out bases (bypassing some when encounter resistance), infrastructure and the internet, however they completely failed to adapt to changing conditions (Ukrainians blew all the bridges out so let's just go around and end up in choke points hurr) and left their troops spread super thin.
Anyway, any way you slice it Russia bit off more than they can chew with Ukraine and overplayed their hand. That's just facts, you can debate the finer points but this is obviously not the result Russia wanted
The point was that they're not the same war, iraq didn't have the capability or the support that ukraine does right now and it still took the US a month to take the country, the fact that the US did things right and still took that long is giving credence to my own point.
It's also why I listed Iraq as third world, 1st vs 3rd and took that long when this one is 2nd vs 2nd.
And as I said they knew exactly what they were getting in to, Russia have fought similar wars within recent memory and have had troops fighting ukraine for 8 years, if anything it's going better than they would have expected because the west has been so cucked in it's response.
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny why the total was less than the amount of US troops participating,
I wondered the same, have to assume it's something about active vs support but go ask the wikipedo fags and see -
2022-03-30 at 2:01 AM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
Third world shithole with a lot of tanks
Second world shithole with a lot of tanks and major support from the West
Russia has been fighting Ukraine for 8 years they definitely know what they were getting in to, who's telling you they aren't doing well? is it supposition? and are their objectives supposition?
War aint quick -
2022-03-28 at 11:47 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
We-we're totally winning guys -
2022-03-26 at 11:31 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2022-03-25 at 9:07 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2022-03-25 at 3:34 AM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2022-03-24 at 10:32 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanksHe looks like shit, the journos trying to quell all the bad shit ukraine has done also look like shit.
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2022-03-24 at 1:39 AM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2022-03-23 at 12:32 AM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanksMidget on the left is the most stylish with the krink, smaller target too
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2022-03-22 at 11:51 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanksNigga can't even afford to launder his clothes
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2022-03-20 at 10:04 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2022-03-20 at 8:46 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2022-03-20 at 12:38 AM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanksI'm glad we're at the "SS were the good guys" stage in western diplomacy now, shoulda always been that way.
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2022-03-17 at 8:42 AM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanksThey wiped out the Ukucks yet?
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2022-03-14 at 11:51 AM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanksЛетят самолеты, и танки горят
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2022-03-13 at 8:19 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
Originally posted by Donald Trump Two New York Times journalists shot, unfortunately only one dead, when they took out their cameras to take photos at a Ukrainian army checkpoint. Hohols are retarded and utterly paranoid about spies.
The mainstream news is reporting they were shot by Russians, of course.
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Nothing better to happen to journos -
2022-03-11 at 11:35 PM UTC in Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanksWhat's odd is the news(state) propaganda efforts are entirely useless because half the shit you can just google(state) and see that they're wrong, why're those 2 fighting against eachother?
No Russia isn't fighting nazis = Yes he is fighting a fairly considerable amount of nazis
No there aren't US biolabs in Ukraine = Yes there are US biolabs in Ukraine here are the companies that run them
No Putin isn't personally assuring every user here a tomboy gf
