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2019-08-05 at 3:09 PM UTC in Ohio shooting
Originally posted by aldra do you actually believe this? I mean, of course they do not operate purely for the propagation of propaganda, but it's become so prolific that I have to question whether the things that aren't propaganda are disseminated to make the propaganda more credible.
How many major news groups air stories that run against US foreign policy? Crimea, for example - their referendum to return to Russia passed by over 90%, was authenticated as legitimate by around 20 foreign observers but decried as illegitimate only by the US… who did not send an observer. Or Syria, where Assad has been accused of 'gassing his own people' over 200 times… yet only ~5 instances were independently investigated and none were able to prove guilt.
What about the overwhelmingly negative coverage of Donald Trump? I remember reading that at least 70% of all coverage on the major networks was highly critical of him.
Or the constant chorus of 'Russiagate'? Even after the $32 million dollar investigation turned up nothing but a few thousand dollars worth of advertising and general social media shitposting coming from Russian IP addresses, they're still beating that dead horse to the absurd degree that Lindsey Graham, one of the original progenitors of it, has become a target:
point is the news industry is a highly politicised tool and often works in almost unanimity when the 'powers that be' have something to tell you.
You're reading too much coordination into what is effectively just another market acting like a market.
If you try to look at it through the propaganda lens, this is a coordinated effort to not report X but highlight Y and mischaracterize Z, and somehow this careful secretive dance is being maintained with the most delusional ideologues in the universe, newsroom journalists, across multiple media networks, across the country and the world.
If you look at it through the simple lens of selfishness, it is simply networks jumping on bandwagons and hyping shit up to get eyeballs for ads. That's what it has always been, that's what it will always be. What's the hot new subject? Then we move on to the next one.
In fact, no deliberate cooperation or collusion is even necessary: if you want to create a story, leak a spicy quote. If you want to kill that story, leak a different spicy quote.
Simple fact is, if this was some left wing nut then that shit would be plastered on Fox News.
Obviously news media is highly politicised but so is the mother shitting Daily Stormer, you want me to believe it is actually a fucking global conspiracy rather than the Daily Stormer bullshitting? -
2019-08-05 at 3:53 PM UTC in Ohio shooting
Originally posted by aldra that doesn't explain the suppression of the other, better-supported viewpoints though. if it were truly a 'marketplace of ideas' as it's often claimed and as you insinuated earlier, it'd benefit a news outlet to go against the grain and prove all the others wrong - in many areas like those listed above though, it simply does not happen. the smaller outlets that do are reviled and their integrity is constantly attacked, with Assange being the extreme case of someone literally being imprisoned for decades for doing the job of an investigative journalist.
You are still not hearing what I'm saying. I'm not saying media outlets have no agenda and are fully devoted to the honest dissemination of unbiased information for the benefit of the public.
There is no "free marketplace of ideas" in media, if you think that is even happening on the internet then you are incredibly naive and simply swallowed the marketing from the next group of hucksters who want your eyeballs for YouTube ad revenue. You really think the Daily Stormer is giving you a bias free factual report?
News outlets are also trying to push an agenda. But it's their own agenda and that's what you're seeing rather than some directed government or jéw propaganda effort. Their agenda is money. Not what idea is the best but how does our brand want to draw attention, and what angle they are taking.
If I am Fox News, I have a viewer profile I want to appeal to. I want people to post clips of Hannity on Facebook to own their libtard aunt, I want them to want my stats as if I'm their verifying factor.
The current state of American news media is an emergent one from many agents making decisions locally, not one agent making a decision globally.
Look, American news will always have a white house flavour, that is going to be true for any country with legit outlets, the government is their direct line to what's going on out of public view. For example with the Crimea referendum, you will usually only either see lies of omission or direct quotes from US officials without a judgement either way, which is how they trim a narrative. "US official said X", but no mention of contradictory claims from credible international bodies for example.
To you it seems like a directed effort, but to me I just see how similar the news outlets' process pipelines are: "Crimea has an election and it goes smoothly" isn't the story, the story is "CIA SAYS CRIMEA ELECTION RIGGED" with the pictures and quote you got firsthand from an official at a podium with an eagle on it. -
2019-08-05 at 2:33 PM UTC in Ohio shooting
Originally posted by aldra I was more or less agreeing with you; a lot of these shootings have had questionable reports and suspicious data surrounding them but nothing that unequivocally demonstrates they were a 'false flag'.
in the absence of hard (ie. video, photos, audio etc) evidence or at least a concensus, we have to dismiss outlying reports describing multiple shooters and the like simply because panic and acute stress makes peoples' recollections unreliable.
I've read that most people hallucinate every single day - usually seeing an animal or a tree or something in the distance that isn't actually there, and it's usually the result of the mind filling in a 'blank' where they scanned over the landscape without constantly concentrating on what they were seeing.
The more I learn about memory, the less I trust memory. I tell everyone I have a bad memory but in truth I think I have an average memory but I'm just more aware of how unreliable my own memory is, and most people just fool themselves about what they remember.
When I hear about an eyewitness account, I mentally convert it into "moving blob format". I.e. anything they're describing about general gross movements in a scene, I generally think it's probably accurate.
Everything else is a straight toss up.
Even within your visual field, the focused center you can pay attention to is arounf the size of a postage stamp held at arm's length. So even if you were looking directly to the left of some shit, your brain is already starting to make stuff up and fill in the blanks, let alone anything happening in your periphery. Specific wording of sentences etc is also sketchy. -
2019-08-05 at 2:35 PM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Malice Metro Edition"Free" market lmao
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2019-08-05 at 1:38 AM UTC in I am declaring war on Aldra
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2019-08-04 at 12:52 PM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Malice Metro Edition
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2019-08-04 at 12:16 PM UTC in What is your opinion of social justice warriors in general?
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2019-08-04 at 7:34 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Malice Metro EditionSheit negro shouldn't this be international news like when Turkey and shit start blocking?
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2019-08-03 at 4:43 PM UTC in Jeffery (((Epstein))) attempts suicide
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2019-08-03 at 10:59 PM UTC in another 8 channer loses it and goes on a shooting spree
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2019-08-03 at 11:03 PM UTC in What is your opinion of social justice warriors in general?Sjws are a hologram like Tupac and the moon
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2019-08-03 at 10:38 AM UTC in We have two groups of trolls here...
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2019-07-27 at 12:03 PM UTC in Jeffery (((Epstein))) attempts suicide
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2019-08-03 at 1:09 PM UTC in We have two groups of trolls here...
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2019-08-03 at 12:59 PM UTC in We have two groups of trolls here...
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2019-08-03 at 12:15 PM UTC in We have two groups of trolls here...
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2019-07-31 at 10:54 PM UTC in Make up some fake "making a proclamation" website names.AllahcouldbeatYahweh.org
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2019-08-02 at 11:57 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Malice Metro Edition
Originally posted by -SpectraL But it's not one twice, it's one times one. That means it's one, one time. The second value is not a numerical quantity that you can just add or subtract to the first value, it's a multiplier. Howard is an idiot.
^ Haha this low IQ retard doesn't understand Terryology 😂😂 -
2019-08-02 at 10:06 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Malice Metro Edition
Originally posted by Sudo my gf was raped by a dark skinned N word before and so she absolutely hates all black guys except the actor terrance howard for some reason
He is a sploo tier genius after all
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/terrence-howard-thinks-1x1-2-has-a-secret-system-called-terryology-and-spends-17-hours-a-day-making-10502365.htmlHoward studied chemical engineering at the Pratt Institute in Brooklyn until he fell out with one of his professors over the answer to the 1x1=1 conundrum.
"How can it equal one? If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told its two, and that cannot be." -
2019-07-30 at 6:48 PM UTC in We have two groups of trolls here...I wouldn't mind being a LONE CIVET or LONE OCELOT either.