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  1. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Where is it?
  2. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Bottom line is Lanny is just too lethargic to bother making this place into anything but a large scribble pad. It may be an unpopular opinion, but it is the truth.

    Why have you never set up a better place? Too lethargic?
  3. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    @ open ur meind You realize that none of what you posted negates the fact that specific wavelengths of light correspond to specific colors right? What you posted simply means that each animal has its own method of interpreting a wavelength as a color with some processing methods being more efficient than others from animal to animal.

    Do you realize that you're claiming nothing is subjective?

    Of course specific wavelengths do not correspond to specific colours. If you and your girlfriend see the same object emitting the same wavelengths, but the object appears to be different colour in your mind than it appears to be in her mind, that means the specific wavelength is not objectively one specific colour. If the specific wavelength was objectively one specific colour it would look the same to both of you. But it doesn't. Therefore it is not objectively one specific colour.

    Claiming that the specific wavelength is objectively one specific colour but that either you or your girlfriend or your dog are just less efficient at processing it, is sort of like claiming that "watermelon" is objectively the most delicious flavor and that other people who disagree with you are just less efficient at processing flavors. Or like claiming that your girlfriend is the most beautiful girl and other people who disagree are just not as efficient at processing beauty as you are.

    What follows is that each animal is specialized to interpret various specific wavelengths into their corresponding colors necessary to carry out their task. This does not mean that colors do not objectively exists but rather that their objective existence is beyond the scope of a specific beings perceptual ability. I.e. just because a color blind person cannot see, lets say, green, this does not mean there is no green, it means that his or her mechanism for perceiving these colors are not attuned to seeing colors in that wavelength spectra.

    Green doesn't exist in the physical world. Colours only exist in your mind. A specific wavelength of light can be said to objectively exist in the physical world and may, subjectively, correspond to the colour green in your mind, but the colour green has only ever existed in your mind as a way for your mind to interpret the sensory information it is receiving. To the colour blind person in your example that specific wavelength of light still objectively exists whether they can sense it or not, but in their mind, subjectively, there is no colour green.

    If specific wavelengths of light objectively corresponded to specific colours, we should know what colours a bee can see. But those specific wavelengths of light don't look like anything at all to you and me. Therefore they do not objectively correspond to specific colours. Instead they subjectively correspond to some unimaginable colours in the bees mind, and they subjectively correspond to no colour in our minds.
  4. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Why? You're just making an assertion with no evidence. Why does color not a property of light? If a red car is not perceived by anything with a visual system does it stop being red? Does it become red again as soon as someone looks at it? You're digging yourself deeper and deeper into an incoherent hole here.

    Again, colour is a function of the visual systems in our brains and not an intrinsic property of the objects we are viewing. To use your example, the car is giving off light of a specific, objective wavelength that your visual system interprets as the colour red. However, your girlfriend may look at the car and see it as more of an orange colour. This is because men and women evolved to perceive colours slightly differently. Even individuals within the sexes will perceive colours slightly differently, because the specific wavelength of light the object is giving off is not a specific colour. Again, colour only exists in your mind.

    The car would still be emit the same wavelength of light whether you are looking at it or not. I never claimed anything like your ridiculous suggestion that reality might disappear when we stop looking at it. But if you magically became a girl and looked at the car, it would appear to be a different colour, even though it is still emitting the exact same specific wavelength of light. If you magically became a dog, the car might appear to be less colourful. If you magically became a bee, you might see colours on the car you have never seen before, because bees can see ultraviolet light.

    This isn't make-believe, these are scientifically verified facts of life.

    The researchers also found that men require a slightly longer wavelength to see the same hue as women; an object that women experience as orange will look slightly more yellowish to men, while green will look more blue-green to men. This last part doesn’t confer an advantage on either sex, but it does demonstrate, Abramov says, that “the nervous system that deals with color cannot be wired in the exact same way in males as in females.” He believes the answer lies in testosterone and other androgens. Evidence from animal studies suggests that male sex hormones can alter development in the visual cortex. While Abramov has an explanation for how the sexes see differently, he’s less certain about why. One possibility—which he cautions is highly speculative—is that it’s an evolutionary adaptation that benefited hunter-gatherer societies: Males needed to see distant, moving objects, like bison, while females had to be better judges of color when scouring for edible plants.

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    Different animals have different kinds of color vision. Some have very poor color vision and others have very good color vision. In fact some birds and bees have super color vision and see colors that humans don't see.

    Bees and butterflies can see colors that we can't see. Their range of color vision extends into the ultraviolet. The leaves of the flowers they pollinate have special ultraviolet patterns which guide the insects deep into the flower.

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  5. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Understanding hyperspace is nothing but the ability to comprehend plural concepts, including polar opposites, within the same gestalt.
  6. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Gravity Defying Tits
  7. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    To illustrate, if your views of a cone were limited to the extremes of plan and elevation, only extraordinary conditions and mathematical calculation would enable you to realize that the two mutually incommensurable figures were aspects of the same identity in a higher dimension of space. Ordinarily, you are able to relate one extreme view to the other extreme by innumerable other viewing angles revealing the gradual transformation of the circle into the triangle. Even after identifying the circle as an allotropic aspect of the triangle, you would still be unable to form the concept of a solid cone unless your mental space were large enough to comprehend three dimensions; you would believe that the conical structure alternates between a circle and a triangle according to the viewing angle; it would be the wave-particle paradox all over again.



  8. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    What a coincidence. On the atomic scale, hyperspacial rotations occur at such speed that transition phases between extreme views cannot be resolved within the temporal precision of the experiment. The wave-particle dichotomy is refractory to scientific comprehension not only because an electron flips between its two phases faster than the instruments can follow, but also because both wave packets and particles are three-dimensional concepts. Mentally unable to comprehend ultratridimensional entities, physicists identify different projections of one subatomic particle as several new discoveries, and that is why there is no end to the number of elementary particles.

  9. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    That's the joke.
  10. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    The fact that they are content to be empty headed silicon enchanced fuck toys makes them fairly attractive.

    Also, children are not as attractive as you think they are.
  11. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    *exhale*
  12. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    I'll smoke some extra weed for you.
  13. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Look like dumb sluts to me.
  14. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Saw some trick or treaters:

  15. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    You don't learn about hyperspace so much as you grow into understanding as a consequence of mental/physical/spiritual evolution, like you grow into walking, talking, and sexual consciousness. Always remember and bear in mind that hyperspace extends through more than three dimensions, so you must be able to read construction plans easily before you can make sense of this thread. In short, hyperspace is not difficult to understand; if its meaning does not develop like music after some rumination, comprehension is simply impossible, so don't sweat it.
  16. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Once you are informed that lw=a, no further instruction is required for you to realize that a/l=w and a/w=l; the three equations express the very same structure. If you can only memorize equations, however, they will always seem mutually contradictory to you; lacking any intuitive understanding of why lw=a, the only proof you have of its truth is that the wallpaper fits the wall. As a consequence, Hitler was adequately trained to cut wall paper, but his groupies are unable to calculate the cost of deceptive packaging.

    There is nothing in this thread that is not self-evident from elementary equations known to everyone before entering high school. The only reason this thread can be considered necessary reading is to clear your mind of the rote thinking inculcated by formal schooling. Formal education is determined to prohibit everyone from relating facts into a whole body of knowledge that inspires wisdom. Deprived of faculties for judgement, the public is unable to understand what is really being done to them; thus, everyone is forced to pay the professional establishment exhorbitant fees for simple services everyone can do for himself --- like filing divorce papers --- and rendered susceptible to believing everything one is told, like perennial children.
  17. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Sploo, don't you just wish you could be and do everything, experience everything, all at once forever?

    In a way we are all segments of the same hyperspacial structure, which is everything doing everything across all space and time.
  18. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Reading this thread is somewhat like listening to a symphony; on first hearing, it is noise. It is only after the structure and the details have imprinted a gestalt in one's mind that melodies and counterpoint can be heard as musical architecture. The meaning of music is the gestalt; otherwise it is only notes; the beautiful sensation of music is produced by experiencing the energy of the gestalt amplified by harmonic resonance with each note. Likewise, the meaning of this thread is in its gestalt, a synthesis of all its disparate parts in a higher dimension of consciousness. Nevertheless, each post can also be fruitful without further reference; this thread offers something for everyone at any time.
  19. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Dick Sucking Lips
  20. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Understanding hyperspace is nothing but the ability to comprehend plural concepts, including polar opposites, within the same gestalt. Not only have I written the text to reflect the confusion of hyperspace, but I have also composed the format to serve as your object lesson in comprehending multiple views simultaneously. A magazine style should present no difficulty to a generation brought up on split-screen movies, multi-media light shows, and studying for academic exams while watching television with a friendly friend of the opposite sex. After reading the sidenotes to get the relevance, the logic is woven by the continuous text.
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