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2019-01-31 at 10:16 PM UTC in Do you faggots wear cologne/perfume/fragrance
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2019-01-31 at 9:31 PM UTC in Do you faggots wear cologne/perfume/fragrance
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2019-01-31 at 9:28 PM UTC in Do you faggots wear cologne/perfume/fragrance
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2019-01-31 at 9:24 PM UTC in all history, writing, and language, should be destroyed. it's degenerate.Philosophers pretend to lead us back to reality on ways paved with more words of higher abstraction, like devils promising to lead us to Heaven. If the devil is the Father of Lies, words are surely the Mother.
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2019-01-31 at 9:22 PM UTC in Do you faggots wear cologne/perfume/fragrance
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2019-01-31 at 12:31 AM UTC in What is the worst reaction to psychedelic drugs you've ever seen?Long time ago my old roommate's brother came over. Strange guy, very paranoid, carried nunchucks around with him. He got drunk on some cider and we gave him a little acid. It was his first trip and he didn't handle it well. I remember the sound of him throwing up into a plastic bag because he couldn't go to the bathroom for some reason, and the sound of the vomit sloshing around in the bag.
Also back before we were roommate's back in highschool we are some magic mushrooms and at one point decided to go get some pizza. I guess he hadn't eaten very much all day, and while we were in line at the pizza place he just all the sudden passed out, got super disoriented and didn't know what was going on. Me and my other buddy had to drag him outside because everyone in the pizza place was eyeballing us.
Same guy had the strangest reactions to salvia... most people I knew would basically become zombified for the duration of the trip. This guy just laughed, constantly, uncontrollably the whole time he was tripping. -
2019-01-31 at 12:22 AM UTC in Do you faggots wear cologne/perfume/fragranceWhen I'm on a date.
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2019-01-30 at 1 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Thinkhttps://science.howstuffworks.com/life/botany/plants-feel-pain.htm
According to researchers at the Institute for Applied Physics at the University of Bonn in Germany, plants release gases that are the equivalent of crying out in pain. Using a laser-powered microphone, researchers have picked up sound waves produced by plants releasing gases when cut or injured. Although not audible to the human ear, the secret voices of plants have revealed that cucumbers scream when they are sick, and flowers whine when their leaves are cut.
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2019-01-30 at 11:56 AM UTC in Might make some more new nis accounts today for my multiple personalitiesPopeye the Sailor
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2019-01-30 at 11:24 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatSome scientists think we have reason to believe plants posses intelligence and can communicate and can feel pain.
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2019-01-30 at 11:20 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny If you thought people looking at objective data and coming to different conclusions is what damns morality then you'd also think the natural sciences and mathematics were simply imaginary. In fact it's difficult to imagine any sort of human pursuit where people don't draw different conclusions from the same data. This has never been a major obstacle in developing human understanding of the world.
I don't believe this damns morality, it just shows us morals are personal preferences. When people come to different conclusions about the goodness or badness of the exact same objective data that tells us more about their preferences than it does about the objective data. In fact, I don't believe what people imagine about the goodness or badness of objective data tells us anything about the objective data at all. How do you believe people can discover the true goodness or badness of objective data? -
2019-01-29 at 5:54 PM UTC in what are you playing lately
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2019-01-29 at 12:51 PM UTC in what are you playing latelyI got back into Minecraft.
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2019-01-28 at 11:39 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by CASPER I guess it comes down to whether or not you believe life has inherent value
I don't believe value or meaning is something the world inherently has. I think value/meaning is something humans apply to the world, and different people will apply different values or meanings to life.
Also the world will eventually take everything from you and it will eat you, so you might as well take a bite out of the world too. -
2019-01-28 at 6:10 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny You've confused definition with assertion of existence.
I don't really think you have. All I've gotten is "no objective measure" and "people disagree". The former is flatly wrong, and the latter is irrelevant.
Not really. I don't agree with your definition, and I reject your assertion. And there's not really much for me to explain - different people can look at the exact same objective data and come to different conclusions about the goodness or badness of that data; the data itself doesn't tell us whether it is objectively good or bad, and there doesn't appear to be any way for us to conclude whether the data is objectively good or bad.
Unless you care to explain why you disagree. -
2019-01-28 at 4:46 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny I've already told you repeatedly that we'll need a shared understanding of what is meant by "moral obligation" before I'll try to make the case for their existence. You've consistently sidetracked that discussion by insisting morals are imaginary or non-objective because you insist morals are just opinions. That is you take the term to mean "opinions" and then act like is somehow damning with respect to my position. You're the one wasting time here.
Why don't you call me a terrorist too while you're in the mood to jerk off to tired biggoted Sam Harris logic.
I understand what you mean by the term, I don't agree with it. If you continue to assert that morals are more than opinions without giving us any reasoning, we can continue to reject your assertion. I've already explained why morals are based in opinion. -
2019-01-28 at 4:16 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by CASPER I mean I sort of get it. Killing something- while natural- falls a bit outside of subjectivity though. If killing things is okay, why is it sometimes not okay (legally). Why do most people have a gut reaction to seeing something die?
Killing a thing is not inherently good or bad or even "ok". In reality killing a thing is killing a thing.
Whatever value we assign to the act is a value we assigned to that act. Sometimes the system deems these acts acceptable, and sometimes it does not. Sometimes we agree with the system, and sometimes we do not. The reason people have a gut reaction is instinctual/behavioral. Different people will have different reactions, for different reasons. But whatever we imagine is irrelevant to the system. -
2019-01-28 at 3:46 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2019-01-28 at 11:22 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meatI thought you have been attempting to make that case but I guess you're really just wasting time.
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2019-01-28 at 11:03 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
