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2024-06-02 at 10:10 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
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2024-06-02 at 9:34 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
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2024-06-02 at 9:23 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
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2024-06-02 at 9:23 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
Originally posted by Grimace I believe I was always this way. I was never one to follow what I had been told. I always wanted to find out for myself.
That has it's drawbacks, of course, but no. I have never been one to "follow the leader".
Do you have oppositional defiant disorder, or are you just a strong willed independent person who taught yourself everything you know? -
2024-06-02 at 8:27 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood It is. I say people are "brainwashed by society" but I really mean parroting a narrative or not thinking about issues critically. I have always been fascinated by cults so I read a lot of books about it at a young age and what a lot of people call "brainwashing" or "cults" doesn't really meet the definition at all.
Aum Shinrikyo was a cult. They killed people because they were ordered to. The difference between something like ISIS or a mass shooting by a right/left skitzo is that they are committing those actions of their own free will, they might be radicalized by something but I wouldn't call them brainwashed by an ideology it's just the wrong term to use.
So from your perspective, someone who has been brainwashed has no freewill?
How does that happen? Can the brainwashed person do anything to get their freewill back again? How do you verify someone has lost their freewill, and isn't just parroting a narrative? -
2024-06-02 at 7:28 PM UTC in DayZAnother map, Livonia, is now free. Waiting for my current character to die first, so I can try it out fresh. Since I want to try it out pretty badly I am taking more risks with my current character.
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2024-06-02 at 7:22 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood brainwashing is a very specific state where people are unable to think for themselves and will refuse to eat until the point of starvation until someone says they are 'allowed' to eat i.e hardcore cults like scientology.
Brainwashing is not people that disagree with you politically.
I'm talking about this sort of thing:
But since you've brought it up, I could imagine manipulation techniques could be used for political purposes. Doesn't seem outside the realm of possibilities. -
2024-06-02 at 6:58 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
Originally posted by Grimace I am not brainwashed nor can I be. I can sniff out fucking bullshit. I am too anti-government, anti-religion, anti-tradition to ever be swooned by their hopes and dreams they promise you.
I do agree that some people are more prone to being brainwashed than others, namely, the elderly. Especially elderly women. Elderly white women, to be precise. They seem to be the most gullible and will literally allow you to spoon-feed them anything you want as long as it "sounds" reasonable or plays upon things they're dealing with in life at their age.
Anyone who is a DIE-HARD supporter of their religion, political party, etc is absolutely brainwashed. When someone even ATTEMPTS to brainwash me, my body and mind REJECT IT and I become agitated and ultimately full blown pissed. My anger at the bullshit you're touting is how I know you're trying to brainwash me and in the words of my very wise wife, "YOU CAN'T BRAINWASH ME, MOTHERFUCKERS!"
Were you always this way, or did you have to learn to adapt? -
2024-06-02 at 6:55 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
Originally posted by ner vegas it's not magic or some kind of special power and giving it that kind of mystique just takes agency away from people.
Who said this is magical?
Originally posted by ner vegas if you're able to control the information a person receives and understand how they process it, yeah, you're able to manipulate the way they think and their outcomes.
Do you believe cult leaders really understand what they are doing to people, and how it is working? Or are they just people who naturally possess certain talents and basically "lucked out" with a susceptible audience? Perhaps there's a bit of a spectrum. Surely there have been people who noticed this phenomenon, studied it, and have worked towards practicing it.
Have you ever been brainwashed? Would you even know it? Do people who are in cults always know they are in cults?
Originally posted by ner vegas to equate that level of direct manipulation with people you don't like, ie. 'brainwashed leftists', 'brainwashed trump supporters' is just a way to denigrate and delegitimise the way they've come to the positions they have in the same way that referring to demographics as 'apes' or 'cockroaches' has historically been a way to dehumanise them. it's the first step in justifying more and more punitive action against people you don't like.
Do you believe it's always only the "people you don't like" are the ones who are in cults, or cult-like structures? I mean, if the cult was actually effective enough, you would really like the people in it would you. Might even see those people as colleagues or mentors. Do you believe you would figure it out on your own? -
2024-06-02 at 5:21 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
Originally posted by Cowboy2013 I don't take for granted that anyone is telling me the truth. That goes for CNN to random internet nutballs. And I'm not going to repeat it until I've looked at it myself and decided it fits a narrative I wish to push.
Were you always this way, or did you learn to be like this? -
2024-06-02 at 5:19 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
Originally posted by ner vegas 'brainwashing' is a meme though
Do you believe cults are real? That some leader-type with certain skills could manipulate several follower-types into doing things they wouldn't have done otherwise? Is that brainwashing, or do you you call it by another name?
If cults are/were real, perhaps the techniques used are on a spectrum, and perhaps there are varying degrees of control and manipulation going on in the real world too. -
2024-06-02 at 5:15 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?
Originally posted by Elbow I suspect I haven't been brainwashed because the things I actually "believe" (that we should be hyper-rationally skeptical to the point of seeming irrationality, that we should believe ~nothing) are completely useless to people in power. Like, look at how I phrased that: "~nothing". I'm so committed to disbelief that I'm forced to leave open the possibility that there are some things we should believe. This basically makes me useless to anyone who is hoping to achieve any sort of goal.
Unless their goal was to make you useless. -
2024-06-02 at 3:50 PM UTC in People that wear gloves for non glove required activities.I wear fingerless gloves everyday.
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2024-06-02 at 3:48 PM UTC in Have you been brainwashed?Would you even know?
I've read that some people can be more susceptible to it. Some people are more likely to become cult members. Some people are more likely to fall for propaganda.
What makes you think you're not? -
2024-06-01 at 9:46 PM UTC in Johnny Checkdata
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2024-05-29 at 12:23 PM UTC in What drug can I use to feel enthusiastic about life?You just need to adjust your attitude.
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2024-05-22 at 3:48 PM UTC in The collapse is realTold ya.
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2024-05-19 at 9:08 PM UTC in DayZ
Best character so far I think.
Cant remember how long this one has been alive. Never been sick, almost died once due to extreme blood loss from a crazy zombie attack but recovered. Have avoided military zones but have been living in the woods looting hunter cabins. Have improvised shelters set up in thick trees, never need to light a fire to keep warm due to high insulation clothing. Have killed 1 player so far, and hunted several large game animals, tanned leather from their hides and made a backpack. Main weapon is the crossbow, but also carry a longhorn hunting pistol for shooting unsuspecting players, and a .357 revolver for more immediate threats. Carry a garden hoe for melee and growing crops wherever I want. -
2024-05-19 at 6:49 PM UTC in Going to go back to my favorite game: Fry Cry 5I likethat one too.
Have you tried Primal? That was my favorite.
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2024-05-19 at 2:44 PM UTC in What do you eat in times of extreme poverty?
