Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace
If the FBI told you chickens were a type of bird, you would begin to doubt it.
It's actually the opposite case - if the FBI were to make a statement that chickens were a kind of bird very few people would argue with that because it's immediately obvious; anyone can look at a chicken and see the similarities to any other bird.
In terms of the Proud Boys being classified as a 'white supremacist organisation' though, it immediately begs the question as to why half their group is black, Mexican or South/Central American - they're either the worst white supremacists ever or the FBI is playing fast and loose with definitions. Going beyond that they openly reject racial policy and believe in civic nationalism.
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace
The FBI is the only institution responsible for looking into domestic terror/extremist groups in the USA. They say that the Proud Boys are a white supremacist organization, and that anti-fa is an ideology, not an organization. Anti-fa does not organize like the Proud Boys. They do not have a leader, or hierarchy, or members. They literally act out assassinations of leftists leaders in re-enactments.
Antifa was originally the attack dog of the German Social Democrat party meant to silence anyone who professed right-wing views at the street level. From the beginning their definition of 'fascist' was heavily weighted and generally meant 'anyone with political views that aren't communist or socialist', and amusingly enough Hitler and the NSDAP were elected in large part due to the violent atmosphere they created (they offered order and prosperity without the precondition of ideology).
Today Antifa isn't so much an ideology as it is a loose coalition of the same kind of street thugs that started it, though now there's a lot more hair dye, oestrogen supplements and weed. If you want to compare the Proud Boys to them, the equivalent would be an Antifa 'chapter' like Rose City Antifa or Unicorn Riot.
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace
It's also men only and they believe women are subservient to men. They have a four step hazing and the third step is getting a Proud Boys tattoo and agreeing not to masturbate.
Why would you have a problem with people willingly doing this? It's not like people are being forced into it. The anti-masturbation thing makes a lot of sense for a group meant to take political action.
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace
93% of protests have been entirely peaceful.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/