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2023-03-18 at 10:16 PM UTC in Helional Voldemelon MDMASo what do I do when I get to the end?
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2023-03-18 at 4:57 PM UTC in Helional Voldemelon MDMAOkay I'm at the end of the sysnthrsis, but this is confusing me.
"To a solution of 10 grms NaOH in 200 mls H2O in a 500 mls flask is added 20 grmsof the amide and 250 grms of 4.2 % NaOCl . The mixture is then heated to 80C with stirring. At about 50 to 60C the mixture can become white as the carbonate forms. At 70-80C an oil separates. (This is crude MDA). The solution was cooled and extracted with xylene. The solution was enhancemented and the filtrate washed with xylene and the xylene portions added together. About 100 mls of conc HCL was added to the xylene shaken and separated. The aqueous solution was extracted with xylene and the xylene separated. The amine was then liberated from the aqueous portion with NaOH and worked up in the usual way to give MDA" -
2023-03-18 at 2:49 AM UTC in Cabbage: The first high.
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2023-03-18 at 2:38 AM UTC in zoklet chemistry section
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce This nigga is cracking out. Love to see it but even 10 people deicating their lives to this will likely not produce any serious lasting results and imho a lot of the discoveries and technology has already been found out
I could be wrong though
The coolest thing I've seen come out lately is brewing opiates
Brewing?
I'm curious heard of this beefore -
2023-03-16 at 11:57 PM UTC in zoklet chemistry section
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2023-03-16 at 11:03 PM UTC in The Legend of the Elixir called Baek Bi Tang: God's Medical MateriaThis post below is written in alchemical code. Read it first.
actually, since we are on the topic, if you want to personally try some alchemisty... There is an elixir called Bai Fei Tang... or Baek Bi Tang in Korean. It is generally regarded as a mythological substance but I'll tell you how to to make it... and let me know how it feels afterwards. There are still martial taoist cults in china and korea that use this elixir to attain immortality today.
ok.
Basically you are trying to make a water that is high water. Take the nature of water then make it exponentially more wet. Water is basically a one layer hydration liquid... if you could make it even more wet, that's like taking five that burns on fire instead of fire that burns on wood.
Take water that has been flowing a long distance (water element). The water must flow TOWARD the east (water element). (basically you can use tap water if you know that the water plant is to your west... or do the traditional thing and get water at the eastern base of a mountain). Then you take this water and simmer for 24 hours in a metal, not aluminum pot... BECAUSE... metal creates water... see 5 element wu xing chart. Start the low boil during hour of the rat and once again, stop the boil at the hour of the rat. Then, pour in a glass and place to the left of your head (water element directionally) as you sleep. Then... wake in the hour of the tiger to drink the water while your eyes are still closed. IF you open your eyes... this triggers the liver meridian (see any acupuncture chart... liver connects to eyes.) You dont want the water to go to your eyes... you want the water to go to your 8 psychic channels aka 8 extraordinary vessels.
Now... here's the relevance... this water is water of water of water of water of water... to make it
water to about the 8th power of water, add tao salt at your second hour of rat. salt is water element. 9 times roasted salt is alchemical. So... alchemical solid water (salt) gets mixed into alchemical soft water (tap water)..
ps... make sure you stay in the dreamy sleepy meditative mode as you drink the water with eyes still closed.
let me know what happens. It helps to be on a vegitarian diet for atleast a few days before you do this to feel a stronger effect."
Ok he is NOT talking about regular tap water. Boiling tap water does nothing Water is digusting. Drinking water is bad see water intoxiacaion....
he is talking about a water plant. Reread it he even says water plant.
I know daoian personally as I was taught by him.
Sports drinks hydrate better than water because of the electrolytes. Plain water dehydrates only 10% absrobs but it robs your body of salt and minerals. Salt is liquid water.
Yes, water can in fact dehydrate you. Water is held together in cells by salt,without it you can't have water in your cells
You get your water from plants. Daoians are vegatarian. plants are 85%-95% water. And use liberal salt. Himalyan only. seasalt might wokr in a pinch but you don't know the quality or where the salt came from. So it might be toxic -
2023-03-16 at 10:55 PM UTC in Cabbage: The first high.Basically, IF you get just cooked cabbage it will get you drunk.
I did it before it was paradise.
You have to be vegan and your body stops producing hydrocholic acid, this makes COOKED vegtables digest better.
I suspect that the cabbage had some sort of amphatamine chemical in it becaue my face got hot.
OH remember himlaylan salt, use liberally your body makes alklaine digestive juices with it.
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2023-03-16 at 10:47 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?What do they mean they extracted it with xylene? What did they extract? What kind of enhancement was used? etc.
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2023-03-16 at 9:58 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?Alright, after googling the chemistry vocabulary i now understand everything except this part:
"At 70-80C an oil separates. (This is crude MDA). The solution was cooled and extracted with xylene. The solution was enhancemented and the filtrate washed with xylene and the xylene portions added together. About 100 mls of conc HCL was added to the xylene shaken and separated. The aqueous solution was extracted with xylene and the xylene separated. The amine was then liberated from the aqueous portion with NaOH and worked up in the usual way to give MDA" -
2023-03-16 at 9:29 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce Are they the same thing? I might be confusing the names with something else.
Those cinnamaldehydes are real potential I was looking at those before I even learned about mdma chemistry in regards to p2p meth
And I still hear about similar classed named chemicals of the cimmamyl nature being used to make some wild synthetic fentanyl like opiates.
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2023-03-16 at 9 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?Right got it now.
When they say they are talking about.
Helional is a chemical compound used as a perfume in soap and laundry detergent. Chemically it is an ALEHYDE with a hydrocinnamaldehyde motif; a structural element which is present in a number of oth… -
2023-03-16 at 8:35 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?Wed, Mar. 10th, 2010, 02:27
amEasy, High Yield MDAEasy, High Yield MDAExerpt from something I heard somewhere.......The Finkelstein reaction is the word for the day! Bromosafrole in acetone treated with KI to form the iodide (iodine is a much better leaving group). Iodosafrole forms the amine with NH3 alone at normal pressure. Start to finish MDA in the +90%! Or, as per twodogs:
Quote:The following reactions make use of a commercially available product that goes under various trade names eg Helional, Floramelon.
The aldoxime of this aldehyde undergoes the Beckman rearrangement with Nickel Acetate to give the amide that is then easily transformed to the amine by the Hoffman reaction.
The Hoffman reaction can be achieved with 4.2% NaOCl sold in supermarkets as bleach.I don't have any references as this was done a while ago.
The aldoxime and Hoffman reactions are pretty standard.
The Beckman rearrangement of this particular product using Nickel Acetate is my own work.It doesn't get any easier that this.
The aldoxime.
100 grms of the aldehyde is placed in 200 mls of ETOH with 50-60 grms of Hydroxylamine Hydrochloride * in 100 mls of H2O. 40 grms of Sodium Carbonate in 100 mlsof H2O is slowly added with stirring.
Once addition is complete the mixture is stirred overnight then enhancemented to give about 100 grms of the aldoxime. If the aldoxime doesn't solidify add more hydroxylamine and base.
The amide.
100 grms of the aldoxime is mixed with 300 mls of xylene and 2 grms of Nickel Acetate ** is added and refluxed for 5 hours. About 100 mls of xylene is distilledoff and the mixture is left to cool. About 70 grms of the amide separates and is enhancemented and dried,. Can be recrystallized with xylene.
The amine.
To a solution of 10 grms NaOH in 200 mls H2O in a 500 mls flask is added 20 grmsof the amide and 250 grms of 4.2 % NaOCl . The mixture is then heated to 80C with stirring. At about 50 to 60C the mixture can become white as the carbonate forms. At 70-80C an oil separates. (This is crude MDA). The solution was cooled and extracted with xylene. The solution was enhancemented and the filtrate washed with xylene and the xylene portions added together. About 100 mls of conc HCL was added to the xylene shaken and separated. The aqueous solution was extracted with xylene and the xylene separated. The amine was then liberated from the aqueous portion with NaOH and worked up in the usual way to give MDA
• *Hydroxylamine: HCL200 mls nitromethane, 300 mls Acetic acid and 300 mls HCL are heated to just below reflux and held there for 2 hours then refluxed for 12 hours. The solution isreduced to half gone the cooled in fridge overnight and enhancemented.
• **Nickel Acetate: 20 grms of nickel oxide (black) is dissolved in Acetic acid and heated with stirring until the mixture turns pale green. The excess Acetic is drained off , the rest is dried and powdered.Making Hydroxylamine HCl http://psychonaut.com/post-35899.html?f=43 -
2023-03-16 at 8:27 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?Okay we have the full document , this seems to be the only instructions on here.
https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=156271
Someone psosted it her as a mircosoft word document. -
2023-03-16 at 8:23 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?This site says they have the way.
https://www.scribd.com/document/526088965/Helional-to-MDA# -
2023-03-16 at 8:19 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce Basically if you want to find a cool company on Alibaba you find one willing to sell you a sample and have it "labelled as"
It could be a Chinese honey pot , no way to know really but I seriously doubt they care about anyone making less than 1lb
Is there a way to test it?
Have you heard of the finkelstein reaction? to change Helional to mda -
2023-03-16 at 7:17 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?These supliers are all in china...
We will be using helional... its everywhere.
But its an analoge how do we make it into MDA -
2023-03-16 at 6 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?They deleted the PMK from aliabia but its seems to be avaible these random websites that I never heard of.
How do we know who can be trusted? -
2023-03-16 at 5:54 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
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2023-03-16 at 5:42 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
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2023-03-16 at 5:07 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce You want to do a total synthesis of *LIL JOHN'S LEGAL CUM* i'm gonna assume you KNOW BASIC LEB BENCH CHEMISTRY
Basically all you gotta do is find a place to get precursor, I heard on the streets it's not terrible hard in 2023 to find "cool" companies willing to send you 25kg of PMK-Glycidate mislabeled as "soap making ingredients"
I couldn't tell you the names of any specific suppliers but I have stumbled on them enough to know it's not totally impossible. They are sus as fuck if you ask me but I mean it's not like your ordering 100kg OF PHENYL-2-PROPANE and 100kg of RED PHOSPHORUS , at the very most they would just suspect you're some huge fucking nerd
or a terrorist if british, but that's actually less life ruining than you'd think or so I hear i.e you get caught with pills and a soda bottle in TEXAS you go to federal prison
You get caught with a mid stage precursor of MDMA or some grey market shit - HE'S A BLOODY TERRORIST!!! *get results back* OH WELL IT SAYS HE'S A DRUGGIE ACTUALLY!!!
unless of course you "do the deg" / live in australia then you can steam distill your own safrole from roots in the ground (I believe this is covered in TOTAL SYNTHESIS II)
yeah that's about it, ordering precursor, making it SOMEHOW or ??? idk
I've been studying MDMA precursors for over a decade and there has been next to nothing "new" discovered since the old GOOD SCENTS COOKEMUP zoklet flasks and beakers days. Mostly just better /greener less toxic ways to do current reactions with known established precursors z
helional
Again, remarkable...helional as the simular structre as Mdp2p as well.