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2023-03-16 at 10:47 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?What do they mean they extracted it with xylene? What did they extract? What kind of enhancement was used? etc.
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2023-03-16 at 9:58 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?Alright, after googling the chemistry vocabulary i now understand everything except this part:
"At 70-80C an oil separates. (This is crude MDA). The solution was cooled and extracted with xylene. The solution was enhancemented and the filtrate washed with xylene and the xylene portions added together. About 100 mls of conc HCL was added to the xylene shaken and separated. The aqueous solution was extracted with xylene and the xylene separated. The amine was then liberated from the aqueous portion with NaOH and worked up in the usual way to give MDA" -
2023-03-16 at 9:29 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce Are they the same thing? I might be confusing the names with something else.
Those cinnamaldehydes are real potential I was looking at those before I even learned about mdma chemistry in regards to p2p meth
And I still hear about similar classed named chemicals of the cimmamyl nature being used to make some wild synthetic fentanyl like opiates.
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2023-03-16 at 9 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?Right got it now.
When they say they are talking about.
Helional is a chemical compound used as a perfume in soap and laundry detergent. Chemically it is an ALEHYDE with a hydrocinnamaldehyde motif; a structural element which is present in a number of oth… -
2023-03-16 at 8:35 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?Wed, Mar. 10th, 2010, 02:27
amEasy, High Yield MDAEasy, High Yield MDAExerpt from something I heard somewhere.......The Finkelstein reaction is the word for the day! Bromosafrole in acetone treated with KI to form the iodide (iodine is a much better leaving group). Iodosafrole forms the amine with NH3 alone at normal pressure. Start to finish MDA in the +90%! Or, as per twodogs:
Quote:The following reactions make use of a commercially available product that goes under various trade names eg Helional, Floramelon.
The aldoxime of this aldehyde undergoes the Beckman rearrangement with Nickel Acetate to give the amide that is then easily transformed to the amine by the Hoffman reaction.
The Hoffman reaction can be achieved with 4.2% NaOCl sold in supermarkets as bleach.I don't have any references as this was done a while ago.
The aldoxime and Hoffman reactions are pretty standard.
The Beckman rearrangement of this particular product using Nickel Acetate is my own work.It doesn't get any easier that this.
The aldoxime.
100 grms of the aldehyde is placed in 200 mls of ETOH with 50-60 grms of Hydroxylamine Hydrochloride * in 100 mls of H2O. 40 grms of Sodium Carbonate in 100 mlsof H2O is slowly added with stirring.
Once addition is complete the mixture is stirred overnight then enhancemented to give about 100 grms of the aldoxime. If the aldoxime doesn't solidify add more hydroxylamine and base.
The amide.
100 grms of the aldoxime is mixed with 300 mls of xylene and 2 grms of Nickel Acetate ** is added and refluxed for 5 hours. About 100 mls of xylene is distilledoff and the mixture is left to cool. About 70 grms of the amide separates and is enhancemented and dried,. Can be recrystallized with xylene.
The amine.
To a solution of 10 grms NaOH in 200 mls H2O in a 500 mls flask is added 20 grmsof the amide and 250 grms of 4.2 % NaOCl . The mixture is then heated to 80C with stirring. At about 50 to 60C the mixture can become white as the carbonate forms. At 70-80C an oil separates. (This is crude MDA). The solution was cooled and extracted with xylene. The solution was enhancemented and the filtrate washed with xylene and the xylene portions added together. About 100 mls of conc HCL was added to the xylene shaken and separated. The aqueous solution was extracted with xylene and the xylene separated. The amine was then liberated from the aqueous portion with NaOH and worked up in the usual way to give MDA
• *Hydroxylamine: HCL200 mls nitromethane, 300 mls Acetic acid and 300 mls HCL are heated to just below reflux and held there for 2 hours then refluxed for 12 hours. The solution isreduced to half gone the cooled in fridge overnight and enhancemented.
• **Nickel Acetate: 20 grms of nickel oxide (black) is dissolved in Acetic acid and heated with stirring until the mixture turns pale green. The excess Acetic is drained off , the rest is dried and powdered.Making Hydroxylamine HCl http://psychonaut.com/post-35899.html?f=43 -
2023-03-16 at 8:27 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?Okay we have the full document , this seems to be the only instructions on here.
https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=156271
Someone psosted it her as a mircosoft word document. -
2023-03-16 at 8:23 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?This site says they have the way.
https://www.scribd.com/document/526088965/Helional-to-MDA# -
2023-03-16 at 8:19 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce Basically if you want to find a cool company on Alibaba you find one willing to sell you a sample and have it "labelled as"
It could be a Chinese honey pot , no way to know really but I seriously doubt they care about anyone making less than 1lb
Is there a way to test it?
Have you heard of the finkelstein reaction? to change Helional to mda -
2023-03-16 at 7:17 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?These supliers are all in china...
We will be using helional... its everywhere.
But its an analoge how do we make it into MDA -
2023-03-16 at 6 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?They deleted the PMK from aliabia but its seems to be avaible these random websites that I never heard of.
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2023-03-16 at 5:54 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
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2023-03-16 at 5:42 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
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2023-03-16 at 5:07 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce You want to do a total synthesis of *LIL JOHN'S LEGAL CUM* i'm gonna assume you KNOW BASIC LEB BENCH CHEMISTRY
Basically all you gotta do is find a place to get precursor, I heard on the streets it's not terrible hard in 2023 to find "cool" companies willing to send you 25kg of PMK-Glycidate mislabeled as "soap making ingredients"
I couldn't tell you the names of any specific suppliers but I have stumbled on them enough to know it's not totally impossible. They are sus as fuck if you ask me but I mean it's not like your ordering 100kg OF PHENYL-2-PROPANE and 100kg of RED PHOSPHORUS , at the very most they would just suspect you're some huge fucking nerd
or a terrorist if british, but that's actually less life ruining than you'd think or so I hear i.e you get caught with pills and a soda bottle in TEXAS you go to federal prison
You get caught with a mid stage precursor of MDMA or some grey market shit - HE'S A BLOODY TERRORIST!!! *get results back* OH WELL IT SAYS HE'S A DRUGGIE ACTUALLY!!!
unless of course you "do the deg" / live in australia then you can steam distill your own safrole from roots in the ground (I believe this is covered in TOTAL SYNTHESIS II)
yeah that's about it, ordering precursor, making it SOMEHOW or ??? idk
I've been studying MDMA precursors for over a decade and there has been next to nothing "new" discovered since the old GOOD SCENTS COOKEMUP zoklet flasks and beakers days. Mostly just better /greener less toxic ways to do current reactions with known established precursors z
helional
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2023-03-16 at 4:36 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce yeah honestly fuck making drugs just sell the bark on a clearnet site ONLY ACCEPT CRYPTOCURRENCY once the amateur molly cooks start ordering 1000kg from you and clear your local habitat of every tree (charge them up the ass btw they will fucking pay anything) then you have $$$$$$$$$$ for very little work and can use the profit to simply buy MDMA or buy PROPER non ghetto stuff to make ityourself
that's what I woud do if I lived in such a place (but im retrded) it's not illegal to sell BARK BARK BARK RUFF
Interesting 3,4-Methylenedioxyphenylpropan-2-one is Mdp2p has the same name as your PMK glycidate I looked up the wiki and ther both the same chemical...
There identical!
So I just treat it like its Mdp2p? And do the stuff in the book to it?
What is PMK glycidate made from any contaminants, like lead?
Yes, its online but it is too expensive. its like 200 a pound for frikken tree bark. -
2023-03-16 at 3:41 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?We have knoeledge of alchemy. What if i fix the oil first and just burb up the bark?
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2023-03-16 at 3:39 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?
Originally posted by Doyle Sauce That book is about a million years old in regards to modern methods at least when it comes to precursor.
The "precursor wars" that have gone on for the past 10+ years aren't well documented but can be learned about trying to follow the bread crimp of trails that includes zoklet flasks and beakers and some suspect was a reason it got hit so hard
To prevent information from becoming known i.e outlawed but those people are all long gone along with all the chemist underground off on the far corners of the dying internet kinda like this place m
That being said if you want to start search up HELIONAL thats where the last public record is left off but I'm sure even that's outdated by now and I actually don't know the most MODERN META but I do remember the last!
So should I search zoklet.com on wed.archieve.com?
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2023-03-16 at 12:59 PM UTC in Total Synthesis ll: Manufacing Molly/Exctasy How to? Has anyone attempted this?He said the drux was the most benign ever.
I found the book on amazon for 1500$
Its from 1998.
Anyone try the methods in the book to make Molly?
Can I distill some fresh sassfras from somehere?
The tree grows here and people harvest from it. -
2023-03-11 at 3:50 AM UTC in How to sell kilos of the best cocaine everHow is this done?
Of course it technically wouldn't be cocaine.
(I basically have a degree in herbology and alchemistry)
It is something I learned called eskinmo cocaine.
We learned in herbology class that tobacoo is actually good for you. It just has toxins in it. Like lead.
Long story cut short. Worked some simple magic and I'm graduating with an A+ in herbology.
I made a elevated form of Eskimo cocaine. A cooked type of tobacco product.
It looks all snow white "extract"
It has a energy effect since tobacco contains safole. Same things used to produce ecstasy from the bark of certain trees.
All the toxins are gone though.
And it was a TON.
So don't give me that tobacco is bad crap.
Nicotine is actually vitamin b called niacin I believe.
Now yes can I sell this as a "new" cocaine?
You know how you can technically get anything when dealing with drug dealers?
X pills are tested and sometimes have meth and caffeine and sometimes no x at all!!
This is safe though and healings. No real side effects.
Native Americans main sacred medience was tobacco.
And yes Eskinmos really do call there tobacco products Eskinmos cocaine so it technically is cocaine.
What are they gunna do about it if they test it and find it contains no cocaine? -
2022-03-10 at 10:05 PM UTC in SWIM tested the bomb design he will use to kill her and her family
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2022-03-10 at 10:03 PM UTC in SWIM tested the bomb design he will use to kill her and her family