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  1. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny yea if nothing moves how can you demarcate one particular state of function from another ?

    If nothing changes then it's just one state. What demarcation would you need to make within it?
  2. Originally posted by ORACLE If nothing changes then it's just one state. What demarcation would you need to make within it?

    idk, you brought it up.
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  3. Narc Space Nigga [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Originally posted by Fox

    No shit. That’s why this is a discussion and not a history lesson. If we knew any of that shit for sure then we would not even be talking about this…. we would just know and accept it as fact… I can’t even…

    So why make such a simple thing so complicated then?

    Well I guess one thing that occurs to me is this. At some point they think around 4 billion years ago abiogenesis happened here on earth. That is life sprung up out of the exact right combination of matter and energy and sparked off not just a life form, but one that could self-replicate. Something somewhere on the early earth created the catalyst that enabled some kind of simple single celled organism to form and then the rest of life on earth evolved all from that one single catalyst.

    So if you were to believe that life in the universe is common, then the question arises that why have we not seen abiogenesis happen on earth a multitude of times over the last 4 billion years? considering the obvious fact that our earth clearly has or did have the right conditions for abiogenesis to occur that one time. If life across the universe was common then you would expect abiogenesis to have happened here on earth on many occasions, which would give rise to many species on our planet that could not be related through DNA fingerprinting, which is what we have found so far. DNA has always been able to show a link between every species on our earth up to date. Which as far as I'm concerned throws a lot of weight toward the 'rare earth hypothosis'.

    You gotta admit, I do have a really good point there?


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  4. Narc Space Nigga [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Originally posted by Obbe Yes, like I said, the universe is a big place. Perhaps the biggest.

    Im not sure you see a distinction between the universe, as in what was created in the big bang, and never ending timeless outer space in which the universe is in. its what the universe is expanding into. What I'm talking about is beyond the universe, way way beyond it.


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  5. Narc Space Nigga [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny commom misconception with empty glasses is to assume they're empty, devoid of anything in them.

    empth glasses are full of air.



    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny also time doesnt go where nothing moves.

    how can time elapses if nothing moves ?

    Oh no, the moron's got me all confused now, darn it.


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  6. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Narc Im not sure you see a distinction between the universe, as in what was created in the big bang, and never ending timeless outer space in which the universe is in. its what the universe is expanding into. What I'm talking about is beyond the universe, way way beyond it.


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    I'm no scientist. My understanding is that the fabric of space and time were created along with everything else during the big bang. I don't know what is beyond that.
  7. Narc Space Nigga [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    But that is exactly what this fred is about


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  8. Originally posted by Obbe I'm no scientist. My understanding is that the fabric of space and time were created along with everything else during the big bang. I don't know what is beyond that.

    Watch star trek 5 for answers.
  9. Originally posted by Narc So why make such a simple thing so complicated then?

    Well I guess one thing that occurs to me is this. At some point they think around 4 billion years ago abiogenesis happened here on earth. That is life sprung up out of the exact right combination of matter and energy and sparked off not just a life form, but one that could self-replicate. Something somewhere on the early earth created the catalyst that enabled some kind of simple single celled organism to form and then the rest of life on earth evolved all from that one single catalyst.

    So if you were to believe that life in the universe is common, then the question arises that why have we not seen abiogenesis happen on earth a multitude of times over the last 4 billion years? considering the obvious fact that our earth clearly has or did have the right conditions for abiogenesis to occur that one time. If life across the universe was common then you would expect abiogenesis to have happened here on earth on many occasions, which would give rise to many species on our planet that could not be related through DNA fingerprinting, which is what we have found so far. DNA has always been able to show a link between every species on our earth up to date. Which as far as I'm concerned throws a lot of weight toward the 'rare earth hypothosis'.

    You gotta admit, I do have a really good point there?


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    lol look at narc using big words.

    abiogenesis.

    life had spawned on this planet many times. many went extinct. and many more are starting to thrive.

    also creatures that live on this planet dont necessarily spawned natively on earth. many specieses, including us came to this planet via space rocks.
  10. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Narc But that is exactly what this fred is about


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    I doubt anyone can wrap their mind around whatever is beyond our reality, if that even makes sense. Like trying to see the back of your head without the aid of reflection.
  11. Originally posted by ORACLE Time doesn't have anything to do with movement.

    Then why does time pass more slowly for an observer in an inertial frame of reference than it would for someone in a fixed resting position relative to him
  12. Originally posted by Obbe I doubt anyone can wrap their mind around whatever is beyond our reality, if that even makes sense. Like trying to see the back of your head without the aid of reflection.

    and once you're able to fathom how infinitely big this universe actually is you'll realize how infinitesimal we really are and that theres really not much meaning to life.
  13. Originally posted by Fox Then why does time pass more slowly for an observer in an inertial frame of reference than it would for someone in a fixed resting position relative to him

    time is totally dependent on movement because without movement there can be no frame of reference for the passage of time.

    if everything stopped moving, including electrons that goes round and round atoms and all its sub atomic particles, then there simply isnt any way to measure time.
  14. WellHung Black Hole
    It's a good idea to tie knots on both ends of your drawstring , So that it does not recess into the wasteband.
  15. Originally posted by Narc So if you were to believe that life in the universe is common, then the question arises that why have we not seen abiogenesis happen on earth a multitude of times over the last 4 billion years? considering the obvious fact that our earth clearly has or did have the right conditions for abiogenesis to occur that one time. If life across the universe was common then you would expect abiogenesis to have happened here on earth on many occasions, which would give rise to many species on our planet that could not be related through DNA fingerprinting, which is what we have found so far. DNA has always been able to show a link between every species on our earth up to date. Which as far as I'm concerned throws a lot of weight toward the 'rare earth hypothosis'.

    You gotta admit, I do have a really good point there?


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    When life first began on earth it was sterile. Now almost every single environment has some form of life already there. Maybe it has happened but the result was immediately consumed by some more complex form of life.
  16. Originally posted by vindicktive vinny and once you're able to fathom how infinitely big this universe actually is you'll realize how infinitesimal we really are and that theres really not much meaning to life.

    Even more infinitesimal if you are Asian or Mexican.
  17. Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Even more infinitesimal if you are Asian or Mexican.

    You realize brown people outnumber you right. Whites are minorities
  18. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny idk, you brought it up.

    You're not saying anything about time not existing. Just the flow of time.
  19. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny time is totally dependent on movement because without movement there can be no frame of reference for the passage of time.

    if everything stopped moving, including electrons that goes round and round atoms and all its sub atomic particles, then there simply isnt any way to measure time.

    No retard. That's the entire point. Holy shit lmao. Time isn't a cosmic stopwatch. It's not APPLIED TO events. It IS the different states of the function. The fact that a particle is here now rather than there. You're just making a retarded circular statement. If you are looking at a moment then there is no change, just a function for change in the next state (this is momentum). You're looking at a static moment. NO SHIT RETARD. You're just looking at one tick and saying time doesn't exist.
  20. Time is a faggot and so are all of you
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