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Can you get your head around the vastness of nothing?

  1. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Nothing isn't something because nothing doesn't exist…

    Something exists…so something is something.

    Define the state or "unstate" of nothingness.
  2. Originally posted by -SpectraL Define the state or "unstate" of nothingness.

    I already did...
  3. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson

    Like I said..nothing doesn't exist.

    That's just assuming what does exist.
  4. Originally posted by ORACLE That's just assuming what does exist.

    Not assumption, there are no known examples of nothing existing...it's assumption to assume nothing does exist in the absence of something...
  5. Well there is nothing going on here so I'm going home to do something.
  6. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Well there is nothing going on here so I'm going home to do something.

    Well, if nothing doesn't exist, how did something get there?
  7. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Not assumption, there are no known examples of nothing existing…it's assumption to assume nothing does exist in the absence of something…

    Sure there are. For example there exists nothing that is not identical to itself i.e. nothing exists that is not identical to itself..
  8. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Think of it this way: if you were in a vehicle which was enveloped in a field which rendered the craft completely independent of the laws of physics, space, time and matter, and had the capability for infinite speed, would the vehicle ever be allowed to reach infinite speed?
  9. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Well, if nothing doesn't exist, how did something get there?

    See now this one is an actual non sequitur
  10. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by ORACLE See now this one is an actual non sequitur

    No. JJ said nothing doesn't exist.
  11. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    It doesn't logically follow from nothing not existing that something needs a nothing to begin.

    If nothing did exist and then turned into something then you would ask how something came from nothing.

    Nothing not existing directly supports something always existing, and existence not needing an "origin". Things can simply be.
  12. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    In the absence of something, you have nothing. But what is nothing? Something?
  13. WellHung Black Hole
    You two should try going outside.
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  14. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by -SpectraL In the absence of something, you have nothing. But what is nothing? Something?

    No by definition nothing is not a thing.
  15. Originally posted by ORACLE I don't need to know, I only know that Allah is all knowing and forbids it so the reason must certainly be good.

    i think they call this being irrational.
  16. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny i think they call this being irrational.

    You think a lot of wrong shit.

    It's perfectly rational, just as rational as trusting your calculator to do so some complicated math. It does math perfectly, so its answers are reliable. More reliable than trusting your hand calculation in fact: we check against computers.
  17. Originally posted by ORACLE You think a lot of wrong shit.

    It's perfectly rational, just as rational as trusting your calculator to do so some complicated math. It does math perfectly, so its answers are reliable. More reliable than trusting your hand calculation in fact: we check against computers.

    not at all, calculators and computers were written and coded by HUMANS (non-neanderthal homo sapiens) therefore essentially theyre checking against human calculations.

    is allah the same thing as computers and calculators ?
  18. Narc Naturally Camouflaged [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Originally posted by ORACLE I don't need to know, I only know that Allah is all knowing and forbids it so the reason must certainly be good.

    How do you know this information tho? Where you get this information from exactly?


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  19. Narc Naturally Camouflaged [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Originally posted by ORACLE That's just assuming what does exist.

    People just assume that gods exist


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  20. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny not at all, calculators and computers were written and coded by HUMANS (non-neanderthal homo sapiens) therefore essentially theyre checking against human calculations.

    Incorrect.

    All you have is faith in the supposed elementary operations producing something reliable. For example literally no single human or even team of humans understands the entire logic of a modern chip. Most of it computer aided and there are many AI designed components. We trust them because they are literally better than us at Math.

    Similarly Deep Blue was designed by a guy who didn't know that much about Chess and beat the best guy in the world at Chess. It's not checking shit against human calculations. It's surpassing the best human calculations by bounds totally insurmountable for us.

    is allah the same thing as computers and calculators ?

    That's not how anal logies work
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