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Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
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2018-10-08 at 11:17 PM UTC
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2018-10-08 at 11:18 PM UTC
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2018-10-08 at 11:24 PM UTC
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2018-10-08 at 11:26 PM UTCMe: It's best to speak up, if for no other reason to help prevent the potential abuse of others
Someone: You don't get it. Nobody will believe us anyway.
Me: it's best to speak up anyway, if for no other reason to help prevent the potential abuse of others
Someone: No you MAN. YOU DON'T GET IT. WE WON'T BE BELIEVED.
Me: Dang Daniel -
2018-10-08 at 11:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Getting a ride home and being raped are two totally different things. Rape may be commonplace to you, not me.
how are they different ?
and lets assume that your right, it'll be easier for a rape victim to forget the id of the pepertrator because a traumatized mind will be more inclined to compartmentalize, block, supress and remove hurtful memories than remembering it for posterity. -
2018-10-08 at 11:28 PM UTC
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2018-10-08 at 11:34 PM UTCLol
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2018-10-08 at 11:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist I’ve served jury duty and remained objective. I wouldn’t be able to convict Kavanaugh either given the lack of evidence. But this is my common sense opinion.
that.
there wasnt proof...much less irrefutable proof of his guilt. nothing more than baseless hyperbole
even more better: there were several articles when this first came to light (articles which have since disappeared or become ridiculously difficult to find) where dr whore described the process she went through before making her accusations public. a process where she 'consulted' with 'experts' who told her about her memories and recollection. a process described virtually verbatim to the assorted day-care trials...especially the macmartin school.
this whole cluster fuck is typical of the usual human stupidity that has been going on for thousands of years. witches...satan worshipers...
society needs to realize stupid people should be a justification for euthanasia. -
2018-10-09 at 12:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Speedy,
I’m not going to try to convince you, you seem to have your mind made up; but I will give you my reasons for believing her.
First off, I’m her age, and I sat here one day and tried to remember all the parties I went to back in my teens. Hell, I’ve pictured different parties that I went to in my mind, but most of the details are very sketchy. I know my GF took me to one but I couldn’t tell you the lay out of the house, nor can I remember most of the people that were there. That particular party my GF was being a slut and sleeping with more than one guy, so I left; guess what?….. I don’t remember who brought me home, I know it was some guy that was there, hell i don’t even remember the car, and I certainly couldn’t take you to the house. This is not the only party that I went to that the details are very sketchy, just the one that stands out in my mind. My GF couldn’t corroborate what happened with me, she was smashed. I guess I better let you know that I didn’t drink back then, only weed.
I kind of like you but that is pure anecdotal evidence and speaks nothing of her credibility.
Originally posted by Technologist Secondly I watched the way the two of them acted when questioned, she was far more believeable, IN MY OPINION.
That is emotional conjecture. Parts of her testimony of her story have been demonstrated to be false by her own testimony. Her reluctance to travel to testify for a fear of flying for example.
Originally posted by Technologist Thirdly she has reported this to her psychologist years ago. Do you think she made this up to her psychologist? I sure don’t. That surely doesn’t fit the conspiracy theory that the right is preaching, this was all a set up, ahhh highly unlikely.
Now seriously, why would any women report this shit on such a high level. She knew it would up end her life. She knew she would be slandered at the highest level, and she has been. What person would ask for that to happen to their established life? No one.
Did you watch the entire hearing? I did. I know, get a life. The pint is when questioned by the Senate Judiciary Committee she stated that only Kavanagh and Judge were in the room. When questioned by Rachel Mitchell about the fact that her therapists notes state she told her therapist there were four boys in the room and none of them were named she testified that the therapists notes were wrong and that she told the therapist two boys and their names. Point after point in her story does not match with multiple credible sources or her own testimony.
Originally posted by Technologist Everyone keeps talking about corroborating evidence, we’ll we don’t have any, do we? I wonder why that is??? Could it be because it wasn’t appropriately investigated? I believe so. They didn’t even interview her during the supposed investigation. They didn’t speak to her psychologist nor the polygraph administrator. Of course Judge is gonna say he wasn’t there. Who’s gonna admit to being part of that type of behavior? So I don’t have solid factual evidence, just my beliefs.
And that’s how I see it.
The polygraph administrator entered a sworn statement to the senate. He only asked her two questions. Is any part of your statement false and did you make up Amy part of your statement. Her attorney released the entire report before she testified. Read it for yourself.
https://www.scribd.com/document/389547505/Dr-Christine-Blasey-Ford-s-Polygraph-Examination
corroborating evidence means evedince factual evidence that support an allegation. Without it no charges can be brought. That is, thankfully, the way the American Justice system should work.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-09 at 12:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker I kind of like you but that is pure anecdotal evidence and speaks nothing of her credibility.
That is emotional conjecture. Parts of her testimony of her story have been demonstrated to be false by her own testimony. Her reluctance to travel to testify for a fear of flying for example.
Did you watch the entire hearing? I did. I know, get a life. The pint is when questioned by the Senate Judiciary Committee she stated that only Kavanagh and Judge were in the room. When questioned by Rachel Mitchell about the fact that her therapists notes state she told her therapist there were four boys in the room and none of them were named she testified that the therapists notes were wrong and that she told the therapist two boys and their names. Point after point in her story does not match with multiple credible sources or her own testimony.
The polygraph administrator entered a sworn statement to the senate. He only asked her two questions. Is any part of your statement false and did you make up Amy part of your statement. Her attorney released the entire report before she testified. Read it for yourself.
https://www.scribd.com/document/389547505/Dr-Christine-Blasey-Ford-s-Polygraph-Examination
corroborating evidence means evedince factual evidence that support an allegation. Without it no charges can be brought. That is, thankfully, the way the American Justice system should work.
polygraphs are literally useless. when the term 'polygraph' comes up in legal terms it can be dismissed with the same disgust as if someone claims to have consulted chicken bones or tarot cards.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-09 at 10:53 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker I kind of like you but that is pure anecdotal evidence and speaks nothing of her credibility.
I was relating my story of how easily one can forget these types of parties in our teenage years. IMO I can see why she forgot some things. Thank God nothing happened to me at that party, I’d have never been able to even find the house, my GF brought me there
That is emotional conjecture. Parts of her testimony of her story have been demonstrated to be false by her own testimony. Her reluctance to travel to testify for a fear of flying for example.
One can have a fear of flying but force themselves to get on a plane. My husband refuses to fly, but he flew to his sisters funeral.
Did you watch the entire hearing? I did. I know, get a life. The pint is when questioned by the Senate Judiciary Committee she stated that only Kavanagh and Judge were in the room. When questioned by Rachel Mitchell about the fact that her therapists notes state she told her therapist there were four boys in the room and none of them were named she testified that the therapists notes were wrong and that she told the therapist two boys and their names. Point after point in her story does not match with multiple credible sources or her own testimony.
I looked into this because I was not aware of that. Didn’t get to watch the whole thing, just highlights. She told her psychologist that there were 4 other boys at the party, but he wrote down that there were 4 in the room with her. An easy mistake, psychologists don’t usually make their notes till after the session, I can see how that would happen.
The polygraph administrator entered a sworn statement to the senate. He only asked her two questions. Is any part of your statement false and did you make up Amy part of your statement. Her attorney released the entire report before she testified. Read it for yourself.
https://www.scribd.com/document/389547505/Dr-Christine-Blasey-Ford-s-Polygraph-Examination
I never saw that, still doesn’t speak against her credibility
corroborating evidence means evedince factual evidence that support an allegation. Without it no charges can be brought. That is, thankfully, the way the American Justice system should work.
Agreed 100%. I’ve already said that I couldn’t have convicted him, not enough evidence, if it were a court of law. But this was about the senators perception of the testimony they saw, their opinions. Just like them I can only have an opinion since this isn’t a true investigation.
This is why I said I could only give you my reasons for believing her, not enough evidence from a sham of an investigation.
This has been a very interesting convo, I actually learned some things, which makes it a productive convo to me. I can’t really debate it today, though. I have to work, and on my job it is very rare that I can post. Hell I rarely get time to speak to my husband or son.
It’s gonna be a busy Tuesday, plus I’m teaching today.
Good day to ya’llThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-09 at 11:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist This is why I said I could only give you my reasons for believing her, not enough evidence from a sham of an investigation.
This has been a very interesting convo, I actually learned some things, which makes it a productive convo to me. I can’t really debate it today, though. I have to work, and on my job it is very rare that I can post. Hell I rarely get time to speak to my husband or son.
It’s gonna be a busy Tuesday, plus I’m teaching today.
Good day to ya’ll
You don't have to debate it. Admit you're PROBABLY wrong.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-09 at 11:36 AM UTC
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2018-10-09 at 12:39 PM UTCHas tech admitted she’s wrong yet?
Man’dup and noted the illogical reasoning of her female brain? -
2018-10-09 at 12:43 PM UTC
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2018-10-09 at 12:44 PM UTCI still don't think I've ever seen someone admit they're wrong on the internet. Other than me. I've done it.
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2018-10-09 at 12:45 PM UTC
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2018-10-09 at 12:51 PM UTCI am the only person to admit being wrong on the internet. I was gonna make a thread but I'll just say it here.
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2018-10-09 at 12:53 PM UTC
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2018-10-09 at 12:58 PM UTCReal life consequences of false rape allegations:
"Ross Bullock, was 38-years-old, when he killed himself after his accuser, who cannot be named for legal reasons, made allegations of rape against him."
"The mother of a teenager who hanged himself after being subjected to rape allegations has committed suicide in the same way shortly after the anniversary of his death...The rape complaint was withdrawn after two weeks..."
