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Should women be charged with a crime for making false rape allegations?
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2018-10-08 at 2:44 PM UTC
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2018-10-08 at 3:31 PM UTCI wouldn't say false accusations are rare.
I don't get these lot that want to make changes to encourage more victims to come forward. Its up to the victim at the end of the day, maybe they don't want to go through all that after going thru such an ordeal. It should be left to their decision only. They are adults and perfectly capable of deciding how they want to handle it. Anybody who really cared would respect and back them whatever they chose to do.
The evil control freaks that run the system are only interested in using them as a statistic to scare the rest of the population into compliance and feeling like they need the protection of the authorities. That is some next level evil shits who would use a vulnerable woman at such a delicate time in her life.
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2018-10-08 at 3:51 PM UTCI think demanding equality
Yet,acting as if you need therapy from getting your ass grabbed 30 years ago is a bit dramatic.
I believe and trust the majority of women I’ve met and respect in my lifetime could and do handle such things.
It’s very odd that it has become cool to be a victim in our society. I prefer the good ole days when women got attention from posting their ass and cleavage.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-10-08 at 4:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist ..
The evil control freaks that run the system are only interested in using them as a statistic to scare the rest of the population into compliance and feeling like they need the protection of the authorities. That is some next level evil shits who would use a vulnerable woman at such a delicate time in her life.
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True. That's the radical left's go-to gambit for just about any subject under the Sun. They hijack anything for their own political agendas. Just look at Black Lives Matter. Started out as a questionably noble ideal, ended up to be nothing but a leftist tool. -
2018-10-08 at 6:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist A credible woman was just dismissed at the highest level.
theres nothing credible about a professor.
a professor is nothing more than an information mercenary, a facts worker, a data hunter and a statistic gatherer that will cook and blend and ferment any and every information to suit the desired narratives of whoever that pays them.
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2018-10-08 at 7:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Speedy
A credible woman was just dismissed at the highest level. I know, I know, no corroborating evidence, bla bla bla.
I disagree. Lying about sexual harassment, domestic violence is a whole hell of a lot easier to do as opposed to rape allegations. Women don’t come forward with rape allegations out of fear of being victimized all over again.
OK I'll listen. Tell me without relying on emotions or antecedotal evidence, using only facts and corroborated evidence or testimony what makes Christine Blasey Ford credible?
Was it her fear of flying?
Was it the fact that none of the witnesses named by her corroborated her allegation?
Or perhaps it was her sworn statement under oath to the senate that Kavanagh and Judge arrived at the party already drunk but she can't recall if they arrived before her or after her?
Which begs the following question. If Kavanagh and Judge were there, which has not been proven by any stretch, and they arrived before she did, how could she possibly know what state either of them were in upon their arrival?
But convince me of her credibility. I'm serious and not trying to stir shit. -
2018-10-08 at 8:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker OK I'll listen. Tell me without relying on emotions or antecedotal evidence, using only facts and corroborated evidence or testimony what makes Christine Blasey Ford credible?
Was it her fear of flying?
Was it the fact that none of the witnesses named by her corroborated her allegation?
Or perhaps it was her sworn statement under oath to the senate that Kavanagh and Judge arrived at the party already drunk but she can't recall if they arrived before her or after her?
Which begs the following question. If Kavanagh and Judge were there, which has not been proven by any stretch, and they arrived before she did, how could she possibly know what state either of them were in upon their arrival?
But convince me of her credibility. I'm serious and not trying to stir shit.
Speedy,
I’m not going to try to convince you, you seem to have your mind made up; but I will give you my reasons for believing her.
First off, I’m her age, and I sat here one day and tried to remember all the parties I went to back in my teens. Hell, I’ve pictured different parties that I went to in my mind, but most of the details are very sketchy. I know my GF took me to one but I couldn’t tell you the lay out of the house, nor can I remember most of the people that were there. That particular party my GF was being a slut and sleeping with more than one guy, so I left; guess what?..... I don’t remember who brought me home, I know it was some guy that was there, hell i don’t even remember the car, and I certainly couldn’t take you to the house. This is not the only party that I went to that the details are very sketchy, just the one that stands out in my mind. My GF couldn’t corroborate what happened with me, she was smashed. I guess I better let you know that I didn’t drink back then, only weed.
Secondly I watched the way the two of them acted when questioned, she was far more believeable, IN MY OPINION.
Thirdly she has reported this to her psychologist years ago. Do you think she made this up to her psychologist? I sure don’t. That surely doesn’t fit the conspiracy theory that the right is preaching, this was all a set up, ahhh highly unlikely.
Now seriously, why would any women report this shit on such a high level. She knew it would up end her life. She knew she would be slandered at the highest level, and she has been. What person would ask for that to happen to their established life? No one.
Everyone keeps talking about corroborating evidence, we’ll we don’t have any, do we? I wonder why that is??? Could it be because it wasn’t appropriately investigated? I believe so. They didn’t even interview her during the supposed investigation. They didn’t speak to her psychologist nor the polygraph administrator. Of course Judge is gonna say he wasn’t there. Who’s gonna admit to being part of that type of behavior? So I don’t have solid factual evidence, just my beliefs.
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2018-10-08 at 8:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by Archer513 I think demanding equality
So you think this has to do with feminism? I don’t, and I’m far from a feminazi
Yet,acting as if you need therapy from getting your ass grabbed 30 years ago is a bit dramatic.
Who did that?
I believe and trust the majority of women I’ve met and respect in my lifetime could and do handle such things.
I have as well, and I’ve had guys speak to me in a sexual manner on the job, I just gave it right back!
It’s very odd that it has become cool to be a victim in our society. I prefer the good ole days when women got attention from posting their ass and cleavage.
Wait a minute, if you believe Trump, white males are the victims. Looks like the tables have turned.
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2018-10-08 at 8:14 PM UTCTech, what would you think/say if it turned out there was undeniable proof that she was lying?
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2018-10-08 at 8:16 PM UTC
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2018-10-08 at 8:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist I would admit that my beliefs were wrong. I have no problem admitting I was wrong. If there is such evidence please tell me.
If i was a jury member I couldn't in good conscience vote Kavanaugh guilty. I'm a good jury member though because I vote not on emotion or circumstantial evidence. That's all I can say. I could give a fuck less about the guy himself and honestly think he probably ISN'T a good choice for his position,, but in terms of the 'case' it's clearly unproven one way or the other and the benefit of the doubt should always go to the accused, as frustrating as that may be for a legitimate victim.
What can actually be done to change the process outside of being more efficient with rape kit testing or more thorough investigations? Without physical evidence it's damn hard to prove guilt. -
2018-10-08 at 8:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ If i was a jury member I couldn't in good conscience vote Kavanaugh guilty. I'm a good jury member though because I vote not on emotion or circumstantial evidence. That's all I can say. I could give a fuck less about the guy himself and honestly think he probably ISN'T a good choice for his position,, but in terms of the 'case' it's clearly unproven one way or the other and the benefit of the doubt should always go to the accused, as frustrating as that may be for a legitimate victim.
What can actually be done to change the process outside of being more efficient with rape kit testing or more thorough investigations? Without physical evidence it's damn hard to prove guilt.
I’ve served jury duty and remained objective. I wouldn’t be able to convict Kavanaugh either given the lack of evidence. But this is my common sense opinion. -
2018-10-08 at 8:42 PM UTCTech got me drunk and violated me.
I feel so used and cheap.
I hope she does it again. -
2018-10-08 at 8:45 PM UTCWhy specifically did you believe her tech?
What intellectual information did you process that turned on the light bulb?
If the exact same scenario happened against your husband would you immediately leave him? -
2018-10-08 at 8:51 PM UTC
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2018-10-08 at 8:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Archer513 Why specifically did you believe her tech? What intellectual information did you process that turned on the light bulb?
See above
If the exact same scenario happened against your husband would you immediately leave him?
If it was proven, you bet cha
But this case doesn’t have enough evidence to prove Kavanaugh guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The supposed investigation was a sham. Ahhh, but the judiciary committee didn’t need proof beyond a reasonable doubt, they only have their opinions, as do I! -
2018-10-08 at 8:54 PM UTCThey don't prosecute it really because it would discourage future people that lied about rape from coming clean and telling the truth. its fucked
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2018-10-08 at 8:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Madman They don't prosecute it really because it would discourage future people that lied about rape from coming clean and telling the truth. its fucked
Yeah that's been mentioned a few times. There should still be no reason to not come forward. If you're telling the truth, it wouldn't be possible to be proven otherwise. -
2018-10-08 at 9:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Speedy,
I’m not going to try to convince you, you seem to have your mind made up; but I will give you my reasons for believing her.
First off, I’m her age, and I sat here one day and tried to remember all the parties I went to back in my teens. Hell, I’ve pictured different parties that I went to in my mind, but most of the details are very sketchy. I know my GF took me to one but I couldn’t tell you the lay out of the house, nor can I remember most of the people that were there. That particular party my GF was being a slut and sleeping with more than one guy, so I left; guess what?….. I don’t remember who brought me home, I know it was some guy that was there, hell i don’t even remember the car, and I certainly couldn’t take you to the house. This is not the only party that I went to that the details are very sketchy, just the one that stands out in my mind. My GF couldn’t corroborate what happened with me, she was smashed. I guess I better let you know that I didn’t drink back then, only weed.
Secondly I watched the way the two of them acted when questioned, she was far more believeable, IN MY OPINION.
Thirdly she has reported this to her psychologist years ago. Do you think she made this up to her psychologist? I sure don’t. That surely doesn’t fit the conspiracy theory that the right is preaching, this was all a set up, ahhh highly unlikely.
Now seriously, why would any women report this shit on such a high level. She knew it would up end her life. She knew she would be slandered at the highest level, and she has been. What person would ask for that to happen to their established life? No one.
Everyone keeps talking about corroborating evidence, we’ll we don’t have any, do we? I wonder why that is??? Could it be because it wasn’t appropriately investigated? I believe so. They didn’t even interview her during the supposed investigation. They didn’t speak to her psychologist nor the polygraph administrator. Of course Judge is gonna say he wasn’t there. Who’s gonna admit to being part of that type of behavior? So I don’t have solid factual evidence, just my beliefs.
And that’s how I see it.
1. Your anecdotal comparison is a party where your friend was being a slut,compared to her allegedly being assaulted to the point where she thought she was going to die.
2. Her psychologist was her friend.(who refused to hand over her notes)
3. She blatantly lied and did so under oath by saying she didn’t fly. She lied about the second front door. She’s a proven liar.
4. Kavanaugh is the most accomplished person she went to h.s with.
5.it was a 36 year old h.s “party” with 5 ppl and she remembered nothing,gave a 4 hour testimony...what further information do you think aboutcould be investigated? Lol
6. A person who wants money and a book deal with appearances on every libtard talk show. (Bet the house) would do it. Plus she admitted she had mental problems.
I didn’t buy her testimony at all. The put-on,crying baby voice was way over the top. The Only ppl that believed it wanted to for certain reasons. -
2018-10-08 at 9:25 PM UTCMy antecdotal story was not about rape, it was about the fact that I do not remember all the details of parties in my teens, and I was not drunk.
Archer,
You have your opinion, and I have mine. You won’t agree with me unless I give you empirical evidence, and I can’t. I won’t agree with you unless you can give me empirical evidence, and you can’t. Hell, you know we don’t have all the facts. We could debate this all day, but there is no real proof either way, that’s why I chose to go with my common sense.
