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2018-04-08 at 6:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Juicebox The way I understand it, they'd have to get a signature from you to prove you ordered it
They could just wait a while and raid your house though
why do people talk such bollocks, and more importantly, why do people all believe such bollocks?
signing for a parcel does not prove that you ordered it. how the fuck would it? have a think about it.
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2018-04-08 at 6:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws But like Narc said, how would they be able to prove they didn’t send it to you themselves to set you up?
If you sign for it, you're declaring in legalese that you ordered it
They don't have to prove that they didn't send it to you. They pretend they didn't know about the order, then raid your house and find it in there -
2018-04-08 at 6:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist why do people talk such bollocks, and more importantly, why do people all believe such bollocks?
signing for a parcel does not prove that you ordered it. how the fuck would it? have a think about it.
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That's just how it is. Maybe it's different there, but in the US, if you sign for it, you're declaring that you ordered it. That's why you never buy anything from dnm that requires signature, so that if they ask for it you know you're being set up -
2018-04-08 at 6:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Juicebox If you sign for it, you're declaring in legalese that you ordered it
look if you don't know wtf you're talking about then maybe refrain from the discussion.
how many people, if they opened the door to the postman saying they have a package to sign for, are going to say 'no, sorry i didn't order anything, so i'm not signing for it'?
its fucking stupid the myths that some junkies make up and all the rest believe them, lol.
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2018-04-08 at 6:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Juicebox That's just how it is. Maybe it's different there, but in the US, if you sign for it, you're declaring that you ordered it. That's why you never buy anything from dnm that requires signature, so that if they ask for it you know you're being set up
no, that's just stupid shit that idiots talk in the forums.
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2018-04-08 at 6:58 PM UTCK
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2018-04-08 at 7:03 PM UTCi mean for starters what would you do if the postman turned up with a parcel addressed to another member of the household and they wasn't there at the time?
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2018-04-08 at 7:07 PM UTCI think people confuse ordering drugs vs. trying to pull a “I didn’t receive the package” scam on ebay or some shit.
Like in that case, if you signed for it that means you got it and the scam won’t work. I doubt it’s the same dynamic when we’re talking about ordering drugs. As in whether or not the police can say it’s yours just for the fact you signed for it. -
2018-04-08 at 7:08 PM UTC
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2018-04-08 at 8:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws I think people confuse ordering drugs vs. trying to pull a “I didn’t receive the package” scam on ebay or some shit.
Like in that case, if you signed for it that means you got it and the scam won’t work. I doubt it’s the same dynamic when we’re talking about ordering drugs. As in whether or not the police can say it’s yours just for the fact you signed for it.
This. Signing a package means you got it, i.e. it completes the chain of custody. Signing for a package doesn't mean you're confirming you ordered it or know what its contents are. It's not like if someone orders you a gift via mail you're legally obligated to not sign for it because you don't know if it's drugs or some shit. There's no way saying you signed for something before opening the package would fly in court.
It is possible that a package with drugs will get intercepted, identified as containing something illegal, and be allowed to continue on to you. Larger scale LEO operations could do this and put you on the list, but I really doubt they could turn that into a warrant. If you're ordering enough that it's clear you have intent to distribute they could then just keep an eye on you and try to catch you while doing that, maybe a surveillance warrant is easier to get (I mean shit, it's 2018, who needs a warrant anymore?), but signing for the package itself is meaningless legally.
Then even there, I don't know how we'd ever get evidence to suggest that happens or not. Like you kind of have to assume it does but as far as I know there's no real evidence that that is a practice. -
2018-04-08 at 8:12 PM UTCSo you all are telling me that none of you have heard of controlled deliveries?
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2018-04-08 at 8:23 PM UTCOn controlled deliveries:
The undercover agent will attempt to solicit any statements in which the suspect may admit knowledge of the parcel delivery. The key to any parcel investigation is for law enforcement to prove that the subject had knowledge of the parcel’s contents. This is critical to the prosecution of the suspect in a parcel investigation. It is virtually impossible to litigate a criminal case without proving knowledge of contents.
https://darkwebnews.com/help-advice/legally-accept-drug-package-per-police-prosecutors/The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-04-08 at 8:26 PM UTCControlled delivery sting operations seem to mainly be used to secure evidence of other illicit activities the parcel recipient may be involved in. An anticipatory search warrant can be executed upon delivery of the package so they can search your house and look for other illegal shit.
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2018-04-08 at 8:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny This. Signing a package means you got it, i.e. it completes the chain of custody. Signing for a package doesn't mean you're confirming you ordered it or know what its contents are. It's not like if someone orders you a gift via mail you're legally obligated to not sign for it because you don't know if it's drugs or some shit. There's no way saying you signed for something before opening the package would fly in court.
It is possible that a package with drugs will get intercepted, identified as containing something illegal, and be allowed to continue on to you. Larger scale LEO operations could do this and put you on the list, but I really doubt they could turn that into a warrant. If you're ordering enough that it's clear you have intent to distribute they could then just keep an eye on you and try to catch you while doing that, maybe a surveillance warrant is easier to get (I mean shit, it's 2018, who needs a warrant anymore?), but signing for the package itself is meaningless legally.
Then even there, I don't know how we'd ever get evidence to suggest that happens or not. Like you kind of have to assume it does but as far as I know there's no real evidence that that is a practice.
they're not actually allowed to allow the package to go on to you unless they were doing a controlled delivery. because that would be tantamount to supplying you drugs. they are legally obliged to prevent illegal drugs from getting onto the streets. if it came out that they had forwarded them on and knowingly allowed you to supply them on then they would have a lot of explaining to do. the fact is that its very rare to do a controlled delivery and the parcel is usually confiscated. however the local police in your area will be informed of course.
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2018-04-09 at 2:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist they're not actually allowed to allow the package to go on to you unless they were doing a controlled delivery. because that would be tantamount to supplying you drugs. they are legally obliged to prevent illegal drugs from getting onto the streets. if it came out that they had forwarded them on and knowingly allowed you to supply them on then they would have a lot of explaining to do. the fact is that its very rare to do a controlled delivery and the parcel is usually confiscated. however the local police in your area will be informed of course.
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They dont have any qualms wIth keeping a fucking child porn website operational to catch more people. Cops are very sick "people" willing to do anything to grt their prosecution quotas and bonuses. It probably comes down to how bored your local pd is. -
2018-04-09 at 2:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by SpatianHaigency They dont have any qualms wIth keeping a fucking child porn website operational to catch more people. Cops are very sick "people" willing to do anything to grt their prosecution quotas and bonuses. It probably comes down to how bored your local pd is.
That’s exactly what Narc said. They don’t let things like this go unless it’s part of a sting operation. -
2018-04-09 at 2:39 AM UTCWhat do yall niggas think of backpage and eccie and eroticmonkey all getting shut down?
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