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Ohio shooting
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2019-08-06 at 9:29 PM UTC
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2019-08-06 at 11 PM UTC
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2019-08-06 at 11:26 PM UTC
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2019-08-07 at 1:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL proves 100% there were two reports occurring simultaneously
it doesn't though. the cogent point of that video is that based on the audio, specifically the different frequencies of the shots and the times between firing and impact, different kinds of munitions are ostensibly being fired from different locations.
like I said there are a few clumsy ways to explain this away but I believe them to be significantly less credible than there being more than one shooter. -
2019-08-07 at 2:06 AM UTC
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2019-08-07 at 3:06 AM UTC
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2019-08-07 at 3:08 AM UTC
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2019-08-07 at 10:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra it doesn't though. the cogent point of that video is that based on the audio, specifically the different frequencies of the shots and the times between firing and impact, different kinds of munitions are ostensibly being fired from different locations.
like I said there are a few clumsy ways to explain this away but I believe them to be significantly less credible than there being more than one shooter.
Are you talking about the video that the guy in his car took? Not sure, haven’t followed this thread closely. -
2019-08-07 at 12:03 PM UTC
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2019-08-07 at 3:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Are you talking about the video that the guy in his car took? Not sure, haven’t followed this thread closely.
no/yeah, the one spectral posted above. basically the guy analyses the audio from one of the many videos of the event; you can judge how far the shooter is from where the bullet strikes by measuring the time between the firing and the impact sound. Based on the delay it seems shots are being fired from at least two separate locations and he guesses at where the shooters may have been based on calculated distances.
if you're interested check out the original thread I linked to a few posts up; there was a lot about this that made no sense. my personal theory is that it was engineered specifically to demonise gun owners and ownership (nb: this is not something I believe of any other recent mass shooting) but there are so many pieces of information missing that it's impossible to build a theory with anything that even resembles a reliable base. -
2019-08-07 at 4:05 PM UTCFrom all the evidence I've examined, it appears the feds had a shooter on a helicopter which was circling the crowd at close range.
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2019-08-07 at 4:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra no/yeah, the one spectral posted above. basically the guy analyses the audio from one of the many videos of the event; you can judge how far the shooter is from where the bullet strikes by measuring the time between the firing and the impact sound. Based on the delay it seems shots are being fired from at least two separate locations and he guesses at where the shooters may have been based on calculated distances.
if you're interested check out the original thread I linked to a few posts up; there was a lot about this that made no sense. my personal theory is that it was engineered specifically to demonise gun owners and ownership (nb: this is not something I believe of any other recent mass shooting) but there are so many pieces of information missing that it's impossible to build a theory with anything that even resembles a reliable base.
shooting the gun with the muzzle inside a room and it sticking out the window will generate different acoustics. -
2019-08-07 at 4:27 PM UTC
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2019-08-07 at 4:29 PM UTC
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2019-08-07 at 4:47 PM UTC
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2019-08-07 at 5:11 PM UTC
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2019-08-07 at 9:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny make and model ?
also, this is why i dont believe the 'audio anal-lisys'.
Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk. That is what it was. And not just one, several, according to highly intermittent radar blips recorded by air traffic control that night.
"Stealth helicopters are helicopters that incorporate stealth technology to avoid detection. Helicopters are in many ways less suitable for stealth technology than airplanes are, because of the noise generated by their rotor blades, which also give off a strong radar signature. In recent years, designs for blades have emerged that can significantly reduce noise, which is a major issue for clandestine use of helicopters. A raid on the compound of Osama bin Laden in May 2011 utilized what appeared to be two Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawks, heavily modified for quieter operations and employing stealth technology to be less visible to radar. Analysis of the tail section, the only remaining part of the aircraft which crashed during the operation, revealed extra blades on the tail rotor and other noise reduction measures, making the craft much quieter than conventional UH-60s."
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2019-08-08 at 5:25 PM UTC
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2019-08-08 at 5:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk. That is what it was. And not just one, several, according to highly intermittent radar blips recorded by air traffic control that night.
"Stealth helicopters are helicopters that incorporate stealth technology to avoid detection. Helicopters are in many ways less suitable for stealth technology than airplanes are, because of the noise generated by their rotor blades, which also give off a strong radar signature. In recent years, designs for blades have emerged that can significantly reduce noise, which is a major issue for clandestine use of helicopters. A raid on the compound of Osama bin Laden in May 2011 utilized what appeared to be two Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawks, heavily modified for quieter operations and employing stealth technology to be less visible to radar. Analysis of the tail section, the only remaining part of the aircraft which crashed during the operation, revealed extra blades on the tail rotor and other noise reduction measures, making the craft much quieter than conventional UH-60s."
this is just a regular, non stealth heli. -
2019-08-08 at 5:44 PM UTC