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2019-08-05 at 2:48 PM UTCOne of my child's fundamental human rights is the freedom to work in a carpet factory.
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2019-08-05 at 3:17 PM UTCI'm writing an essay about the colonial history of Zimbabwe and kind of want to frame it as a capitalist/socialist struggle for the greater good which left Zimbabwe economically depressed after the dirty commies won.
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2019-08-05 at 3:19 PM UTCdunno if I'd characterise it that way, but I'd certainly read it
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2019-08-05 at 3:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo I'm writing an essay about the colonial history of Zimbabwe and kind of want to frame it as a capitalist/socialist struggle for the greater good which left Zimbabwe economically depressed after the dirty commies won.
That's doable, but in the narrative will the Capitalists or the socialists be the good guys? -
2019-08-05 at 3:30 PM UTC
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2019-08-05 at 3:40 PM UTC
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2019-08-05 at 3:57 PM UTCIn reality the Rhodesian economy was pretty socialistic, a welfare state with high taxes (that caused a lot of smart people to leave). In addition all the big Imperialist Western Powers turned on Rhodesia, so it wasn't much of a 1st World nation.
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2019-08-05 at 4:03 PM UTCI would mention the fact that Rhodesian wages were low and going lower in world terms, especially near the end. The government tried the usual dirigist policies, including I think currency manipulation and central bank intervention, but they didn't work. I think there were also very high interest rates too, just to try to keep money in the country.
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2019-08-05 at 4:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country I would mention the fact that Rhodesian wages were low and going lower in world terms, especially near the end. The government tried the usual dirigist policies, including I think currency manipulation and central bank intervention, but they didn't work. I think there were also very high interest rates too, just to try to keep money in the country.
yes, not to mention taxation and land re appropriation as a way of forcing self sufficient individuals into participating in a slave economy.
Imagine going there with a shitload of cash and giving it out to people. They'd draw pictures of you and "ancient alien theorists" would speculate you were an otherworldly visitor by how highly esteemed they treated you -
2019-08-05 at 4:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo yes, not to mention taxation and land re appropriation as a way of forcing self sufficient individuals into participating in a slave economy.
Imagine going there with a shitload of cash and giving it out to people. They'd draw pictures of you and "ancient alien theorists" would speculate you were an otherworldly visitor by how highly esteemed they treated you
I don't think land re-appropriation happened until the bleeks took power. -
2019-08-05 at 4:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country I don't think land re-appropriation happened until the bleeks took power.
whites forcibly took land from blacks who couldn't pay taxes because they were subsistence farmers, then forced them into "labour compounds" to work their own land. It all sounds extremely socialist when you put it like this. Mugabe reappropriated them post colonialism with disastrous effect -
2019-08-05 at 4:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo whites forcibly took land from blacks who couldn't pay taxes because they were subsistence farmers, then forced them into "labour compounds" to work their own land. It all sounds extremely socialist when you put it like this. Mugabe reappropriated them post colonialism with disastrous effect
Are you sure that wasn't some sort of counter-insurgency move, the same as concentration camps or new life hamlets? Relying on blacks as a tax base isn't something anyone has ever been able to do. -
2019-08-05 at 5:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Are you sure that wasn't some sort of counter-insurgency move, the same as concentration camps or new life hamlets? Relying on blacks as a tax base isn't something anyone has ever been able to do.
I don't really care to provide citations but obviously Britain wasn't trying to tax them of their sticks and mud huts and useless shiny heavy rocks, they wanted to take the land from them to set up factories, mines and large scale farms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hut_tax
Botswana has done remarkably well post colonialist partly because the state has a 50% stake in the mines and they encourage FDI. Same could be done with Zimbabwe, the same way Putin reigned in some of post soviet problems of Yeltsin. -
2019-08-05 at 5:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo I don't really care to provide citations but obviously Britain wasn't trying to tax them of their sticks and mud huts and useless shiny heavy rocks, they wanted to take the land from them to set up factories, mines and large scale farms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hut_tax
Botswana has done remarkably well post colonialist partly because the state has a 50% stake in the mines and they encourage FDI. Same could be done with Zimbabwe, the same way Putin reigned in some of post soviet problems of Yeltsin.
I thought that we were talking post WW2. Yes, obviously the empire wanted land and labour, and self-sufficient peasantry is just an impediment to both. Similar taxes were made in Scotland and IrelandThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-05 at 6:48 PM UTCIf I was an IV drugs user I would shoot up with only the best bottled water
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2019-08-05 at 7:15 PM UTC
The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-08-05 at 7:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost If I was an IV drugs user I would shoot up with only the best bottled water
Lol I actually had a similar thought, do richer heroin junkies have special pimped out syringes and shit. Do cokeheads have a platinum mirror with an American Express Centurion card to line up rails? -
2019-08-05 at 7:37 PM UTC
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2019-08-05 at 7:38 PM UTCHelp me Iām barricaded in my car posting from my iPhone surrounded by an ocean of horny marxists trying to get in and take my marbles
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2019-08-05 at 8:16 PM UTC
