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Huawei Cut Off From Intel, Google, Broadcom

  1. 2019-05-24 at 10:42 PM UTC
    #41
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator I anticipate massive expansion by Huawei soon to get up to speed on all the development they need to do in all these areas, and quickly.
    wherever will they get an interest free cash injectio...owait
  2. 2019-05-24 at 11:31 PM UTC
    #42
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Sudo wherever will they get an interest free cash injectio…owait

    you mean like a bailout?
  3. 2019-05-24 at 11:39 PM UTC
    #43
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra you mean like a bailout?

    Not interest free

    https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/
  4. 2019-05-24 at 11:40 PM UTC
    #44
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator They can use the existing Kirin designs but moving forward they won't have shit.

    ZhaoXin/VIA are rolling out some competitive x86 designs, I can see them changing scope to include low power units over this
  5. 2019-05-24 at 11:45 PM UTC
    #45
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra ZhaoXin/VIA are rolling out some competitive x86 designs, I can see them changing scope to include low power units over this

    Pretty Huawei is not allowed to use x86 either. A majority of the patents surrounding x86 are held by Intel and AMD. If Intel won't license to them, they can't sell outside of China.
  6. 2019-05-24 at 11:48 PM UTC
    #46
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by aldra you mean like a bailout?

    a state sponsored "loan" to offset any competitive disadvantage
  7. 2019-05-25 at 4:47 AM UTC
    #47
    vindicktive vinny Black Hole
    Originally posted by Sudo Chinks use "wechat" which uses GPS and basically requires you to give your second born daughter to the state in order to use.

    Has anyone heard anything about Chinks stealing software IP from India? That definitely seems like something they'd do.

    more than just gps, it also triangulates with cell towers which is why it can still get your location despite the gps is turned off.
  8. 2019-05-25 at 4:52 AM UTC
    #48
    vindicktive vinny Black Hole
    Originally posted by Sudo a state sponsored "loan" to offset any competitive disadvantage

    arent those things called subsidies ?
  9. 2019-05-25 at 6:38 AM UTC
    #49
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator Pretty Huawei is not allowed to use x86 either. A majority of the patents surrounding x86 are held by Intel and AMD. If Intel won't license to them, they can't sell outside of China.

    I dunno about licensing, I tried to check it out but it's retardedly complicated. I think the core of it is that intel owns the rights to the x86 basic instruction set, but if it's that there's no way they can stop anyone from using it without changing standards and keeping them a secret.

    that said I didn't mean they'd replace their current chips with x86, just that they've been able to competently design x86 chips that rival the Ryzen series so there's no reason to think they can't build their own phone processors from scratch, just that it might take some time.
  10. 2019-05-25 at 7:47 AM UTC
    #50
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    yeah, I was going to say, the processor design implied by the x86 architecture makes it a bad fit for phones, no one would want to use an x86 processor there.
  11. 2019-05-25 at 8:18 AM UTC
    #51
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Hypothetically in the future if you placed devices that were backdoored by china behind infrastructure that was backdoored by the nsa would you have a secure set up?
  12. 2019-05-25 at 8:21 AM UTC
    #52
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    no lol

    it'd be like a pipe that leaks in two places
  13. 2019-05-25 at 10:18 AM UTC
    #53
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Huawei has been removed the from the SD Association, a non-profit group that sets the standards for SD and microSD cards.
    …
    likely means that future Huawei devices won't be able to use microSD cards. Huawei does have its own Nano Memory Card format
    …
    Meanwhile, the Wi-Fi Alliance has "temporarily restricted" Huawei
    https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/19/05/24/2210218/huawei-has-now-been-cut-off-by-the-sd-association-wi-fi-alliance
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  14. 2019-05-25 at 12:27 PM UTC
    #54
    Narc Naturally Camouflaged [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    i guess its pretty clear why the american govt are doing this then. they obvs don't want citizens having phones that they can't track and spy on.

    that's some proper authoritarian shit right there.


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  15. 2019-05-25 at 12:30 PM UTC
    #55
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Narc i guess its pretty clear why the american govt are doing this then. they obvs don't want citizens having phones that they can't track and spy on.

    that's some proper authoritarian shit right there.


    .

    They could already spy on everyone on Huawei phones, as long as they have GApps. This reduces the spying.
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  16. 2019-05-25 at 5:51 PM UTC
    #56
    vindicktive vinny Black Hole
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/19/05/24/2210218/huawei-has-now-been-cut-off-by-the-sd-association-wi-fi-alliance

    no problem.

    https://www.androidauthority.com/nano-memory-914862/
  17. 2019-05-25 at 5:55 PM UTC
    #57
    vindicktive vinny Black Hole
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Hypothetically in the future if you placed devices that were backdoored by china behind infrastructure that was backdoored by the nsa would you have a secure set up?

    yes.

    because this would mean china can backdoor into nsa and vice versa,
  18. 2019-05-25 at 6 PM UTC
    #58
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by snab_snib you mean the bigger advantage.

    Not for Huawei though. The majority of people are addicted to the convenience of the existing app stores; not having access to them or something similar will put a serious dent in Huawei's sales, even if it is a positive thing in the long run
  19. 2019-05-25 at 6:37 PM UTC
    #59
    vindicktive vinny Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra Not for Huawei though. The majority of people are addicted to the convenience of the existing app stores; not having access to them or something similar will put a serious dent in Huawei's sales, even if it is a positive thing in the long run

    google playstore doesnt exist in china.

    there are twice as much people who dont use playstore than there are those that do, if we compare china-us, and their doing just fine.
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  20. 2019-05-25 at 7:02 PM UTC
    #60
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny google playstore doesnt exist in china.

    there are twice as much people who dont use playstore than there are those that do, if we compare china-us, and their doing just fine.

    interesting

    what do they use instead?
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