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2019-05-08 at 4:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick Daenerys has always assumed that there will be a throne remaining for her to occupy, but I see no reason why it wouldn’t be destroyed, either purposefully or by accident. How can she create a new world when she’s sitting on a chair that represents a conquest of the old one? If her queenship demands the breaking of the wheel, a prudent iconoclast would begin by disassembling the iron throne.
I thought the throne was forged by dragons breath? It pre-dates Roberts rebellion, no? I appreciate the artistry to what you said but it’s not backed up by cannon lore... -
2019-05-08 at 4:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by -mal- I thought the throne was forged by dragons breath? It pre-dates Roberts rebellion, no? I appreciate the artistry to what you said but it’s not backed up by cannon lore…
Not quite, Martin tells us in an interview documented here that it was put together by blacksmiths.
Actually, it seems that it was fused by dragonfire. But that doesn't change the quality of the steel, I don't see why it can't be undone by ordinary means. At the very least, dragonfire could destroy it presumably.
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2019-05-08 at 4:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick
Not quite, Martin tells us in an interview documented here that it was put together by blacksmiths.
Actually, it seems that it was fused by dragonfire. But that doesn't change the quality of the steel, I don't see why it can't be undone by ordinary means. At the very least, dragonfire could destroy it presumably.
But the throne doesn’t represent something she needs to undo? If her people sat on it. -
2019-05-08 at 4:24 AM UTC
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2019-05-08 at 4:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by -mal- But the throne doesn’t represent something she needs to undo? If her people sat on it.
Tyrion did once point out that the wheel she seeks to break was built by her ancestor, Aegon, the same conqueror who built the iron throne to represent his power. I think destroying that symbol would be the ultimate expression of change for a Targaryen revolutionary intent on egalitarian reform.
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2019-05-08 at 4:30 AM UTCOH YEAH.... And the idea that shell going to break the cycle of tyranny by frying thousands of innocent civilians in a besieged city. Such lazy fuckin writing.
I WONDER IF SHELL DO IT GUISE? -
2019-05-08 at 4:31 AM UTCAlso- being raped and brutalized apparently made Sansa a bearable human being, and gave her badass super powers.
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2019-05-08 at 4:39 AM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Also- being raped and brutalized apparently made Sansa a bearable human being, and gave her badass super powers.
I think all the strong women had to be raped to become so. This kind of annoys me about the writers. It also made me wonder if cersi ever got raped and maybe that’s why she prefers her brother... -
2019-05-08 at 4:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by -mal- I think all the strong women had to be raped to become so. This kind of annoys me about the writers. It also made me wonder if cersi ever got raped and maybe that’s why she prefers her brother…
Well essentially she was, yes. She was sold off to Robert Baratheon by her father to solidify an alliance. She hated him and he fucked whores and got all fat and gross. So by 2019 standards, yes she was raped. I think Arya is the only one who wasnt raped, but in the book theres the threat of it i believe.
But yeah- its like the batman origin story for women. Parents get killed outside a movie theatre- become a superhero. Get raped- become a badass revenge-crazy bitch. -
2019-05-08 at 4:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Well essentially she was, yes. She was sold off to Robert Baratheon by her father to solidify an alliance. She hated him and he fucked whores and got all fat and gross. So by 2019 standards, yes she was raped. I think Arya is the only one who wasnt raped, but in the book theres the threat of it i believe.
But yeah- its like the batman origin story for women. Parents get killed outside a movie theatre- become a superhero. Get raped- become a badass revenge-crazy bitch.
And people doubt my legitimacy. Hilarious. -
2019-05-08 at 5:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by -mal- I think all the strong women had to be raped to become so. This kind of annoys me about the writers. It also made me wonder if cersi ever got raped and maybe that’s why she prefers her brother…
In the books, Cersei very emotionally describes to Ned how a drunken Robert forced himself on her repeatedly and Ned sort of shrugs it off. In the show, Jaime raped Cersei directly in front of Joffrey’s altar while she protested. I regard this as one of the more brutal acts of the series and struggle to understand why there were no repercussions.
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2019-05-08 at 5:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick In the books, Cersei very emotionally describes to Ned how a drunken Robert forced himself on her repeatedly and Ned sort of shrugs it off. In the show, Jaime raped Cersei directly in front of Joffrey’s altar while she protested. I regard this as one of the more brutal acts of the series and struggle to understand why there were no repercussions.
For some reason that golden boy is untouchable. But I hate him. -
2019-05-08 at 5:23 AM UTCI might start watching it again
I heard it really went off the rails once it got past RR Martin's current material though -
2019-05-08 at 6:32 AM UTC
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2019-05-08 at 1:52 PM UTC
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2019-05-08 at 2:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by -mal- It’s worth it. To see it all play out.
I thought this once too, but then Season 8 began.
Honestly if you're a fan I don't even have to say shit, you already know. S8 is by far the worst one yet, quality wise. Ooooh wow, a dracontine twist on "a whole new world" and "Star Wars"! That was all the money for real sets and good writers, cooooooooooooooooool thanks! -
2019-05-08 at 3:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by apric0t I thought this once too, but then Season 8 began.
Honestly if you're a fan I don't even have to say shit, you already know. S8 is by far the worst one yet, quality wise. Ooooh wow, a dracontine twist on "a whole new world" and "Star Wars"! That was all the money for real sets and good writers, cooooooooooooooooool thanks!
I can’t say I’m a real fan because I didn’t read the books and started watching around season 3. I agree season 8 has paled in comparison. I just like seeing stuff finish and come together -
2019-05-08 at 7:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick Tyrion did once point out that the wheel she seeks to break was built by her ancestor, Aegon, the same conqueror who built the iron throne to represent his power. I think destroying that symbol would be the ultimate expression of change for a Targaryen revolutionary intent on egalitarian reform.
Egalitarianism has never really been her aim though. She has an emotional objection to slavery, being westerosi (although she's never actually made it off the continent in the books so the reason for this isn't as clear), but clearly has no qualms with violent hierarchical systems of oppression, herself heading dynasty she believes valid as her birthright. It's discussed that she'll make a poor queen since she can never have a true heir, Tyrrion's support of her on moral grounds (perhaps a convenient excuse to find his way to the side he expects to win) is actually quite short sighted in that she represents at best a few decades of peace book ended by massive social upheaval.
Originally posted by CASPER Well essentially she was, yes. She was sold off to Robert Baratheon by her father to solidify an alliance. She hated him and he fucked whores and got all fat and gross. So by 2019 standards, yes she was raped. I think Arya is the only one who wasnt raped, but in the book theres the threat of it i believe.
Cerci was fucking her brother before Robert's rebellion though, right? -
2019-05-08 at 7:43 PM UTCI played the TellTale GoT game on Xbox, which was arguably the best TellTale game I've played, and I'd definately like another one.
What was great about it was that it gave a terrific overview of the lore and a good chunk of the story into an extremely well paced and consise episodic series clocking in at about idk, maybe 15+ hours total. -
2019-05-08 at 8:01 PM UTC