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Scientists Warn the UN of Capitalism's Imminent Demise

  1. #21
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by stare rape Even if that's true, can you really look at humanity as a whole and see any reason we deserve to be here?

    There are certainly times, like when I'm reading PHM posts, where I feel nothing of value would be lost. But I still think that most people, in an environment where they're not conditioned to be assholes and not forced into violent competition, are basically good.
  2. #22
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by stare rape We don't really know. We still can't explain why one summer will have an average 10 degrees lower and the next will have an average ten degrees higher. Until we do we have no real way of telling how much climate change is natural and how much is man made

    that

    sun position...solar emissions...atmospheric gas content...who the hell knows

    hell, they dont even know what causes el nino/la ninja and theyre some of the most prevalent factors on short-term (relatively speaking) weather patters in this hemisphere.
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  3. #23
    RisiR † 29 Autism
    This claim

    Originally posted by infinityshock humanity is having a trivial effect on the planets climate in consideration of other natural factors.

    does not hold any value then.
  4. #24
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by infinityshock anyone that has the hubris to think humanity is capable of influencing the climate in such a manner is a complete idiot. it is a literal delusion of grandeur. no one says humanity is having zero effect on the planets climate. humanity is having a trivial effect on the planets climate in consideration of other natural factors.

    Yeah, that's a nice opinion but scientific consensus is broadly against you there. If calling accepting the position best supported by evidence "hubris" makes you feel better then uhh, have fun being wrong I guess.
  5. #25
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Producing usable energy (“exergy”) to keep powering “both basic and non-basic human activities” in industrial civilisation “will require more, not less, effort.”

    interesting, but seems to be quite a leap from there to 'capitalism is over'
  6. #26
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by aldra interesting, but seems to be quite a leap from there to 'capitalism is over'

    If we assume the claims about the environmental impacts of industrial production are true then it seem almost obvious that a capitalistic mode of production is unable to prevent ecological catastrophe. The "invisible hand of the market" is, definitionally, unable to correct for externalities. So either the industrial capitalistic mode of production will be eliminated or human projects generally will, either way the future looks bleak for capitalism.
  7. #27
    Sophie Pedophile Tech Support
    Originally posted by Lanny Yeah, that's a nice opinion but scientific consensus is broadly against you there. If calling accepting the position best supported by evidence "hubris" makes you feel better then uhh, have fun being wrong I guess.

    It's kind of the same as with all the GMO studies, the people commissioning these studies have a conflict of interest.
  8. #28



    Soy will save the world.
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  9. #29
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by RisiR † This claim



    does not hold any value then.

    your existence has no value

    kill yourself
  10. #30
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by s­oybitch 2.0 - The GMO Reckoning [im s://d2ouvy59p0dg6k.cloudfront.net/img/average_grams_of_soy_used_per_kilo_of_product_min_499693.jpg
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    Soy will save the world.

    soy is a fag food. literally. it has been proven that it contains phytoactive substances that act on the human physiology inciting a hormonal response similar to female hormones

    you stupid faggot
  11. #31
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by l­anny Yeah, that's a nice opinion but scientific consensus is broadly against you there. If calling accepting the position best supported by evidence "hubris" makes you feel better then uhh, have fun being wrong I guess.

    you spelled 'fact' wrong

    scientific consensus at the hands of scientists who find whatever results the individuals financing their works want them to find.

    this has repeatedly been proven and immediately hushed by the media
  12. #32
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    Originally posted by Lanny Yeah, that's a nice opinion but scientific consensus is broadly against you there. If calling accepting the position best supported by evidence "hubris" makes you feel better then uhh, have fun being wrong I guess.

    That becomes a pretty useless argument once you take into account the point that just about every scientist in the western world knows very well that his grant application is like 10 times more likely to be approved if his description mentions that his study is associated to proving the effects of man made global warming and then on the flip is 100 times more likely to be turned down if it says the opposite. A lot of scientists have admitted to this fact.



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  13. #33
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    To put the human race into perspective as compared to planet earth, every human on the planet could stand in Wales and all still have room to swing a cat.

    How much difference could we possibly make?



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  14. #34
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by NARCassist To put the human race into perspective as compared to planet earth, every human on the planet could stand in Wales and all still have room to swing a cat.

    How much difference could we possibly make?

    that would mean a single nuclear warhead could save the planet
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  15. #35
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    If you think man isn't affecting climate change you are dangerously stupid. If you think there's a global scientist kabaal dedicated to falsifying things that are apparent to anyone with 2/5 senses, you are so fucking stupid you need to die right now
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  16. #36
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    It really is the new evolution debate, "we don t know there's a missing link or something"

    Retarded inbred faggots who shouldn't be allowed outside
  17. #37
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Sudo If you think man isn't affecting climate change you are dangerously stupid. If you think there's a global scientist kabaal dedicated to falsifying things that are apparent to anyone with 2/5 senses, you are so fucking stupid you need to die right now

    the entire 'renewable energy' production & research industry is reliant on government grants, and there's a revolving door between researchers, lobbyists and policymakers - are you really going to argue there's no possibility of corruption?
  18. #38
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by aldra the entire 'renewable energy' production & research industry is reliant on government grants, and there's a revolving door between researchers, lobbyists and policymakers - are you really going to argue there's no possibility of corruption?

    There's corruption like there is in pretty much every business, especially ones with grants subsidies and lobbyists and then there's a whole global industry the world over colluding with science, history and common sense itself to enrich their pockets with shekels. Corruption in an industry doesn't negate it's value, just the methods used to reach the means.

    What's going on with algae anyway? Why isn't it as prevalent as it should be?
  19. #39
    capitalism isnt going anywhere.

    when the goings get tougher, they are going to congregate, consolidate and become even bigger conglomerate. not even bolshevicks could wash it off.
  20. #40
    Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2.0 - The GMO Reckoning


    Soy will save the world.

    because the US is the biggest producer of it.
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