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2018-08-18 at 11:53 PM UTCI went mattress shopping once and put $20 down on a $500 mattress, told them I would be back the next day. Went back the next day and they loaded it up and sent me on my way without collecting the balance. Is that shoplifting? I had the money in my pocket.
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2018-08-19 at 12:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by ohfralala Well it sounded like he did it multiple times and got away with it.
Well, it's tougher than it looks, because you have to be 100% positive the thief has the goods, and you also have to know exactly what he picked up and exactly what pocket or bag he put it in, and exactly when he did it. Since you know when the thief gets away with something he'll be back, it's just a matter of patience really. -
2018-08-19 at 12:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by Bologna Nacho I went mattress shopping once and put $20 down on a $500 mattress, told them I would be back the next day. Went back the next day and they loaded it up and sent me on my way without collecting the balance. Is that shoplifting? I had the money in my pocket.
Since they removed the merch from the store and didn't ask for full payment, you wouldn't be responsible. -
2018-08-19 at 12:21 AM UTCSo THEY shoplifted...LOLThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-08-19 at 12:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Well, it's tougher than it looks, because you have to be 100% positive the thief has the goods, and you also have to know exactly what he picked up and exactly what pocket or bag he put it in, and exactly when he did it. Since you know when the thief gets away with something he'll be back, it's just a matter of patience really.
Nigga no. If you see a mother fucker walk in a store empty handed and he walks out with a bag of chips that he’s been fucking eating in the store there is no “it’s tougher than it looks”. Fucking cucked security guards. -
2018-08-19 at 12:24 AM UTCMore like "cuffed" security guards
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2018-08-19 at 12:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by ohfralala Nigga no. If you see a mother fucker walk in a store empty handed and he walks out with a bag of chips that’s he’s been fucking eating in the store there is no “it’s tougher than it looks”. Fucking cucked security guards.
No, no. I saw him buy the bag of chips every time, it's just that I didn't see the unpaid items go into the bag, at first. I thought he was dropping the items phishing for a lawsuit at first, because many people do that and make a professional job out of it. $5,000 instant payout by check from the store manager for most cases. But that last time I did a full check inch by inch of the aisles where the merch vanished, and I knew he had to have it somewhere. Then I guessed the bag of chips, took a big gamble, but I was bang on. -
2018-08-19 at 12:34 AM UTC
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2018-08-19 at 12:38 AM UTCWell that’ll teach me to skim won’t it boys.
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2018-08-19 at 12:44 AM UTCThe high tension cases come in when you get a bad mix of variables, like the morons putting out an entire section of cartons of cigarettes right out on the open floor with no protection, and then you get a coordinated gang of thieves come in and use the "hand-off" method along five or six of them to get the merch out. One grabs two cartons, heads for the west side of the floor, where he hands them off quickly at the end of an aisle to an accomplice pushing a cart going east, then another guys comes in quickly from the north side and grabs them out of the cart, then another guy passes by quickly with another cart and grabs the two cartons and drops them in, makes his way over to the last guy standing near the back door and the last guy shoves them under his arms and goes out to the car and dumps them, meanwhile the first guy is grabbing another two cartons and heading for his hookup at another point on the floor. And we loss prevention often work alone, so it's tough to be at three places at once. What you do there is you go and get all the male staff and have them all hide behind cars in the parking lot, and when they all come out after the car is full enough of cartons, you and all the male staff fall on top of them like sacks of bricks and it's game over.
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2018-08-19 at 12:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Loss prevention has access to the hardcopy receipt rolls inside the register, so it's very easy to detect. Just roll back the transactions on that cash and viola.
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now they have direct access to the POS logs that can be cross referenced with the digital CCTV recordings to see what was scanned and paid for and what was magically not scanned.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-08-19 at 12:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL The high tension cases come in when you get a bad mix of variables, like the morons putting out an entire section of cartons of cigarettes right out on the open floor with no protection, and then you get a coordinated gang of thieves come in and use the "hand-off" method along five or six of them to get the merch out. One grabs two cartons, heads for the west side of the floor, where he hands them off quickly at the end of an aisle to an accomplice pushing a cart going east, then another guys comes in quickly from the north side and grabs them out of the cart, then another guy passes by quickly with another cart and grabs the two cartons and drops them in, makes his way over to the last guy standing near the back door and the last guy shoves them under his arms and goes out to the car and dumps them, meanwhile the first guy is grabbing another two cartons and heading for his hookup at another point on the floor. And we loss prevention often work alone, so it's tough to be at three places at once. What you do there is you go and get all the male staff and have them all hide behind cars in the parking lot, and when they all come out after the car is full enough of cartons, you and all the male staff fall on top of them like sacks of bricks and it's game over.
you forgot the guy that opens the 15-second time delay fire exit 15 seconds before the previous relay runner makes their way there. -
2018-08-19 at 12:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock you forgot the guy that opens the 15-second time delay fire exit 15 seconds before the previous relay runner makes their way there.
I actually had to consider that. At the main customer service desk, there is a light board installed just under the counter which displays the status of all fire doors. I had a walkie talkie and she was on the same channel, so when she would alert me to an open door, I had to consider the timing and whether it was part of a ploy or not. -
2018-08-19 at 12:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL I actually had to consider that. At the main customer service desk, there is a light board installed just under the counter which displays the status of all fire doors. I had a walkie talkie and she was on the same channel, so when she would alert me to an open door, I had to consider the timing and whether it was part of a ploy or not.
a more fun tactic is to have someone outside waiting -
2018-08-19 at 12:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock a more fun tactic is to have someone outside waiting
My senior partner enjoyed sitting in his car in the next parking lot over and watching the back doors. For hours he'd just sit there eating sandwiches and drinking and lounging. Used to kind of piss me off, but he said when you do get action, it's going to be big, and it's going to be an inside job nine times out of ten. And he was right. -
2018-08-19 at 1:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL My senior partner enjoyed sitting in his car in the next parking lot over and watching the back doors. For hours he'd just sit there eating sandwiches and drinking and lounging. Used to kind of piss me off, but he said when you do get action, it's going to be big, and it's going to be an inside job nine times out of ten. And he was right.
i knew a walmart dude that watched the people on camera, then instead of chasing them, his lazy ass just called the cops to grab them as they walked out the door or left the parking lot. -
2018-08-19 at 1:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock i knew a walmart dude that watched the people on camera, then instead of chasing them, his lazy ass just called the cops to grab them as they walked out the door or left the parking lot.
That's how they do it these days. I watched some modern shoplifting CCTV videos and that's the way they do it now. Not really loss prevention, just ratting people out. -
2018-08-19 at 1:12 AM UTC
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2018-08-19 at 1:29 AM UTCYeah, when it happens to the friend of some hoidy toidy journalist who writes for HuffPo, the cops are gonna quit doing that.
Someone I worked with used to work nights at a mental institution and if someone attacked someone else the police refused to come because "they shouldn't have taken them if they couldn't handle them". Which is true, to some extent. -
2018-08-19 at 1:32 AM UTCThe store will mostly do an out of court settlement almost immediately, to avoid even greater liability, if the person doesn't have the goods it was claimed they had stolen, so not doing their job is going to cost them big time in the long run.
