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2018-07-23 at 3:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Archer513 The firing is only going one way.
That’s the problem.
Business’ need to shut the fuck up and get out of politics too.
Don't confuse politics with morality. When businesses side with the left, they do so because it's in line with their moral principles - they think it's immoral to discriminate against people for race, gender, sexual orientation etc. And they think it's moral to support people who are discriminated against by others for those things. They aren't doing it because they feel politically obligated, they're doing it because they feel morally obligated. Also for crass, self-serving profit-motivated reasons, but mostly it's guided by their sense of morality. -
2018-07-23 at 3:45 PM UTC
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2018-07-23 at 3:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Don't confuse politics with morality. When businesses side with the left, they do so because it's in line with their moral principles - they think it's immoral to discriminate against people for race, gender, sexual orientation etc. And they think it's moral to support people who are discriminated against by others for those things. They aren't doing it because they feel politically obligated, they're doing it because they feel morally obligated. Also for crass, self-serving profit-motivated reasons, but mostly it's guided by their sense of morality.
Originally posted by HTS Don't confuse politics with morality. When businesses side with the left, they do so because it's in line with their moral principles - they think it's immoral to discriminate against people for race, gender, sexual orientation etc. And they think it's moral to support people who are discriminated against by others for those things. They aren't doing it because they feel politically obligated, they're doing it because they feel morally obligated. Also for crass, self-serving profit-motivated reasons, but mostly it's guided by their sense of morality.
So businesses are moral paragons now?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-07-23 at 3:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Don't confuse politics with morality. When businesses side with the left, they do so because it's in line with their moral principles - they think it's immoral to discriminate against people for race, gender, sexual orientation etc. And they think it's moral to support people who are discriminated against by others for those things. They aren't doing it because they feel politically obligated, they're doing it because they feel morally obligated. Also for crass, self-serving profit-motivated reasons, but mostly it's guided by their sense of morality.
I’d agree with the self serving crass part...
It has nothing to do with morality. It has everything to do with the fake impression of morality.
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2018-07-23 at 3:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS As much as I like freedom of speech, the Cap'n is right. You can say what you want, and the government (except in extraordinary circumstances) will not stop you. Like Cap'n said, they have a right to dissociate themselves from you to protect their own image. That said - even if it wasn't damaging to be associated with open racists, and within a company's rights to fire you over it - only the government is under any kind of obligation to tolerate that shit in general. A person would be within their rights to kick you out of their house over it, and a business should be within their rights to kick you off of their payroll (regardless of the 'protecting our brand' justification).
Most corporations only care about profits...not ethics or real justice. CNN, NYT and WP for example support corrupt Democrates and globalists and couldn't care less about truth. It's what America has becomes allowing leftist cancer to grow and who are the ones demanding no free speech so only they can be heard. Mentally, morally and physically patriots are stronger with more integrity...the left will either destroy themselves or the whole nation. -
2018-07-23 at 3:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cootehill So businesses are moral paragons now?
No, but people like to think they are. And people run businesses.
An American businessman might make a point of supporting ICE and border patrol agents because he feels he has a moral obligation to protect America from illegal immigration and protect America's right to a secure border. Another American businessman might make a point of supporting undocumented workers and protecting illegal immigrants because they feel they have a moral obligation to their fellow man to help them live a better life in America. Both of these are decisions that are highly politicized, but they aren't acting politically. They're acting in line with their morals - it's the conflict between those two sets of morals that shapes the political debate surrounding them, but neither person is necessarily making a decision based on their politics... more like their politics are based on the morals that lead them to the decisions they make.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-07-23 at 4 PM UTCEvery single large company supports mass immigration, neoliberalism, pozz, and Israel.
Morals my ass.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-07-23 at 4:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS No, but people like to think they are. And people run businesses.
An American businessman might make a point of supporting ICE and border patrol agents because he feels he has a moral obligation to protect America from illegal immigration and protect America's right to a secure border. Another American businessman might make a point of supporting undocumented workers and protecting illegal immigrants because they feel they have a moral obligation to their fellow man to help them live a better life in America. Both of these are decisions that are highly politicized, but they aren't acting politically. They're acting in line with their morals - it's the conflict between those two sets of morals that shapes the political debate surrounding them, but neither person is necessarily making a decision based on their politics… more like their politics are based on the morals that lead them to the decisions they make.
Morality and politics have become intertwined. Hence the term “political correctness”
Has no place in business. It’s complete narcissism on the part of the ppl running these business’ to inject their “morality” in a for profit business.
Most of this stuff is reactionary.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-07-23 at 4:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Archer513 Pc is nothing but leftist propaganda
Demoralize and conquer under the guise of moral superiority. Their ultimate goal is to crush masculinity and rule by their own fascist/Marxist standards.
The elite want a moldable society. They want what China has.
Mooooom... I'm not free to do whatever I want without consequences. War cry of the right. -
2018-07-23 at 4:13 PM UTCThere's no moral obligation to protect ilegals void of any documentation or origin filled with criminals, radicals and law breakers and who destroy your country. Pretty obvious this is 100% true now, especially in the EU where many nations want their sovereignty back and are adopting Trump policies. This is where the difference is...plain and simple. Those who support ICE are patriots...those who support illegals at this point are leftists trying to buy votes, opportunists with their own agenda and the intelligence community who are corrupt. The left have no integrity and are just as bad as Nazis...ANTIFA, BLM and the BP who are all violent and with Muslim ties also. You have no leg to stand on...total BS.
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2018-07-23 at 4:17 PM UTC
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2018-07-23 at 4:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by joerell There's no moral obligation to protect ilegals void of any documentation or origin filled with criminals, radicals and law breakers and who destroy your country. Pretty obvious this is 100% true now, especially in the EU where many nations want their sovereignty back and are adopting Trump policies. This is where the difference is…plain and simple. Those who support ICE are patriots…those who support illegals at this point are leftists trying to buy votes, opportunists with their own agenda and the intelligence community who are corrupt. The left have no integrity and are just as bad as Nazis…ANTIFA, BLM and the BP who are all violent and with Muslim ties also. You have no leg to stand on…total BS.
Weird, jedis have no interest in any of this, just Muslims.
And what did Nazis do to be as bad as antifa, a group that openly wants to destroy America and American culture and "whiteness"? -
2018-07-23 at 4:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by Captain You are free to say whatever you want. Someone else is free to be offended by it and say so. Your employer is free to fire your ass because they don't want to be associated with whatever you said.
You are basically bitching that you shouldn't have to face the consequences of your actions like a cuck ass bitch.
so you mean justified reaction to freespeeches are action
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2018-07-23 at 4:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Archer513 Morality and politics have become intertwined. Hence the term “political correctness”
Has no place in business. It’s complete narcissism on the part of the ppl running these business’ to inject their “morality” in a for profit business.
Most of this stuff is reactionary.
Morality and politics have always been intertwined. People vote for what they think is right and morally acceptable. I just think it's silly of people to say "keep your morality out of your own business". Why should they not be free to act morally? Just because you politically disagree with their conception of what is moral? -
2018-07-23 at 4:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Morality and politics have always been intertwined. People vote for what they think is right and morally acceptable. I just think it's silly of people to say "keep your morality out of your own business". Why should they not be free to act morally? Just because you politically disagree with their conception of what is moral?
Because as you stated,morality is subjective. Subjective is polarizing.
You don’t want to Be polarizing when it comes to $$$
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2018-07-23 at 4:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS There are many people - many people who own businesses - who would disagree.
All hypocrites and against real justice. To help illegals, criminals and radicals from other countries who should have been legally deported, Obama and Clinton for 8 years basically ignored, mistreated and used their own citizens to push a sick agenda hoping to win another election through corruption and ruin the nation further. Vets, the poor, homeless and disabled all suffered the most and with no sympathy from the WH while globalists made billions financing Clinton as people lost their jobs and corporations went overseas. Welfare, health care and social services all were deeply affected and for what. To support illegals who have no interest to assimiliate or become Americans. Socialism has brought us to the brink of war and there can't be any sympathy for the entities that want to eliminate democracy and there is no moral obligation to believe or assist traitors. If you can't see the difference Trump has made you are either a moron or totally blind. Trump is not being allowed to govern for one simple reason...leftists are afraid he'll be successful and fear for their past crimes so they need a scape goat. -
2018-07-23 at 4:42 PM UTCNormal people don't have well thought out moral convictions. Most people just adopt the default morality of their society.
And that default changes over time and from place to place, so it's not objectively "correct".
I don't think it's good that business be used as a cudgel to suppress dissent.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-07-23 at 4:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Archer513 Because as you stated,morality is subjective. Subjective is polarizing.
You don’t want to Be polarizing when it comes to $$$
It may not be “wrong” to be polarizing,but it is bad business.
It might be good to be polarizing for the publicity alone. You can't say you agree that they do it for crass self-serving profit-motivated reasons, but also say that it's stupid because "you don't want to be polarizing when it comes to $$$". How many people does a business really lose by being polarizing? How many people are going to be so offended that they boycott? How successful do you think that boycott will be? Might still be worth it.
It's clearly not as simple as "it's bad for business" anyway. And ignoring profit motives for a second, it might even be worth it for someone to make less money if it meant they could do what they feel is right. -
2018-07-23 at 5:03 PM UTC
Happy corporate pride!
Being anti-gay in the west right now would be incredibly brave and stupid. -
2018-07-23 at 5:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock its called 'freedom of speech', handsome and well tanned individual
Freedom of speech protects you from censorship by the government, not from the consequences and reactions by private parties, phaggot. Those private parties also have freedom of speech, and the freedom to fire you.
