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My take on Guns
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2018-03-28 at 6:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by inb4l0pht Something like 70% of all US gun homicides occur in 5% of counties. The demographics of those counties? Almost all majority black.
Fun facts CNN and MSNBC will not tell you.
Also, the national homicide rate is roughly halved if you exclude blacks and hispanics.
when i saw the actual DOJ statistics the firearms MURDER (homicide and murder are not related yet the anti-2nd-amendment clowns use the less accurate HOMICIDE statistics) rate when not including handsome and well tanned individuals was something like...20% of the overall rate. maybe less. -
2018-03-28 at 7:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader self defense is not an willful act ???
people unwillingly defended themselves ???
people who defended themselves do not have freewills ???
That's not what firing at will means. I have a 6 year old nephew who plays the same childish game with words. I'd suggest the two of you hang out but he would take your lunch money. -
2018-03-29 at 4:15 AM UTC
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2018-03-29 at 4:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick Do you really think the second amendment would work for you in the event of a modern, US tyranny? Even if it did, I'd rather be dead than alive in a society of idiots.
You already live in a society of idiots lmao.
I like you Zan-Zan but you’re like one of the most naive people I’ve ever encountered -
2018-03-29 at 4:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws You already live in a society of idiots lmao.
I like you Zan-Zan but you’re like one of the most naive people I’ve ever encountered
but seriously ...
you really believe that the current arms and munitions available to you via guns stores near you are able to offer you protection against a tyrannous government ???
a government with worlds mightiest military ??? -
2018-03-29 at 5 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader but seriously …
you really believe that the current arms and munitions available to you via guns stores near you are able to offer you protection against a tyrannous government ???
a government with worlds mightiest military ???
No, but at least I’ll be able to go out fighting. It’s not a realistic scenario anyways.
The more realistic reason why I own weapons, is in the event that 1. I happen to be around when a mass shooting breaks out, or 2. if/when there is a partial or complete breakdown in societal protections and/or governmental infrastructure.
While neither of these scenarios are very likely, why the fuck shouldn’t I be allowed to prepare for them? All the arguments I’ve heard in defense of gun control seem like they’re other people’s problems to me. -
2018-03-29 at 5:05 AM UTCWhy do people always equate gun control arguments to mean 'ban all guns' arguments?
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2018-03-29 at 5:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws No, but at least I’ll be able to go out fighting. It’s not a realistic scenario anyways.
The more realistic reason why I own weapons, is in the event that 1. I happen to be around when a mass shooting breaks out, or 2. if/when there is a partial or complete breakdown in societal protections and/or governmental infrastructure.
While neither of these scenarios are very likely, why the fuck shouldn’t I be allowed to prepare for them? All the arguments I’ve heard in defense of gun control seem like they’re other people’s problems to me.
but this isnt / wasnt why your given the sacred 2nd amendment to begin with.
and clinging on to the freedom to bear arms based on the 2nd amendment alone is just pure fallacy. -
2018-03-29 at 5:18 AM UTC
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2018-03-29 at 5:19 AM UTC
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2018-03-29 at 5:20 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Why do people always equate gun control arguments to mean 'ban all guns' arguments?
Yeah I should have worded that a bit better.
I’m actually not opposed to a limited increase to certain “gun control” methods, such as more comprehensive background checks. But the libs always love to tie this shit into retarded buzzword bans like “assault weapons” bans and “high capacity magazine” bans.
But yeah basically what I’m saying is I’m not one of those “THE GUBMENT GERNA TAKE MY GERNS!!!??? WE GON KILL U IF U TAKE MY GERNS” morons.
I’m a rational person I swear -
2018-03-29 at 5:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader but this isnt / wasnt why your given the sacred 2nd amendment to begin with.
and clinging on to the freedom to bear arms based on the 2nd amendment alone is just pure fallacy.
Doesn’t matter why it was written that way. Times have changed. I’m not a constitutional fundamentalist.
I don’t care if they call it the second amendment or whatever the fuck. I just want a bunch of guns with lots of boo-lets -
2018-03-29 at 5:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws Yeah I should have worded that a bit better.
I’m actually not opposed to a limited increase to certain “gun control” methods, such as more comprehensive background checks. But the libs always love to tie this shit into retarded buzzword bans like “assault weapons” bans and “high capacity magazine” bans.
But yeah basically what I’m saying is I’m not one of those “THE GUBMENT GERNA TAKE MY GERNS!!!??? WE GON KILL U IF U TAKE MY GERNS” morons.
I’m a rational person I swear
I know you are. -
2018-03-29 at 5:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws Doesn’t matter why it was written that way. Times have changed. I’m not a constitutional fundamentalist.
I don’t care if they call it the second amendment or whatever the fuck. I just want a bunch of guns with lots of boo-lets
then i guess you have to make a better justification for gun owners to own guns. -
2018-03-29 at 5:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader then i guess you have to make a better justification for gun owners to own guns.
I just did in an earlier post.
It just so happens that an already-existing law called the second amendment encompasses those reasons I stated previously.
Again, the intent when the law was made doesn’t really matter. What matters is that it IS the law, and there are currently no good arguments out there right now to change it. -
2018-03-29 at 5:40 AM UTC§m£ÂgØL knows more about the 2nd amendment than any of you, shame he isn't here to shed his insight.
Where is VIZIER, by the way? Hmmmmmm. -
2018-03-29 at 5:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws I just did in an earlier post.
It just so happens that an already-existing law called the second amendment encompasses those reasons I stated previously.
Again, the intent when the law was made doesn’t really matter. What matters is that it IS the law, and there are currently no good arguments out there right now to change it.
huh ??? didnt know that the second amendment is a law.
will delve into this a bit later. -
2018-03-29 at 5:42 AM UTC
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2018-03-29 at 5:43 AM UTC
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2018-03-29 at 6:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Paws You already live in a society of idiots lmao.
I like you Zan-Zan but you’re like one of the most naive people I’ve ever encountered
Nah, there are a few people who aren't idiots that I'm lucky to interact with often. Some of them are you guys! You're one, as well.
I'm just suspicious of people who prepare for the end of the world by acquiring the sort of weaponry that could mow down a bunch of people, and who believe I should be thankful for their foresight before it can be proven useful.
