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  1. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    I would've liked to hang with the theasuarus guy, Roget.
  2. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Fox Paws It’s called “constitutional LAW”

    exactly, their first and foremost constitution.

    whether their applicable as law or otherwise is subject to many things and events.
  3. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Tell me how to live, oh men of hundreds of years ago. Thank you!!
  4. Originally posted by mmQ Tell me how to live, oh men of hundreds of years ago. Thank you!!

    Many of the rights/laws laid out by the “founding fathers” are pretty basic shit that apply just as well today.
  5. I agree that they may not have known all the possible future implications of the shit they talked about back then. But yeah if anything they should have put more shit in there, like a right to privacy from government surveillance etc
  6. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    I like the guy who proposed ratification or whatever. Whoever he was. The one that said "ok guise, I know we're important and this shit is all important, but let's make a clause so that maybe a few hundred years down the line people can change this shit if it's weird for them. Maybe they'll have internet and things will be different.
  7. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Fox Paws Many of the rights/laws laid out by the “founding fathers” are pretty basic shit that apply just as well today.

    not really.

    for example, the 3rd amendment.
  8. Originally posted by benny vader not really.

    for example, the 3rd amendment.

    No, that one still makes sense. Even though most of us probably couldn’t imagine that happening in a modern day setting in this country. But it is true that I wouldn’t want soldiers staying in my fucking house so. And this kind of thing does still happen in other countries with oppressive regimes. So yeah, that still applies
  9. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by mmQ I like the guy who proposed ratification or whatever. Whoever he was. The one that said "ok guise, I know we're important and this shit is all important, but let's make a clause so that maybe a few hundred years down the line people can change this shit if it's weird for them. Maybe they'll have internet and things will be different.

    if I remember right there was discussion that amendments to the constitution should be revisited once a generation, every 21 years or so
  10. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Fox Paws No, that one still makes sense. Even though most of us probably couldn’t imagine that happening in a modern day setting in this country. But it is true that I wouldn’t want soldiers staying in my fucking house so. And this kind of thing does still happen in other countries with oppressive regimes. So yeah, that still applies

    the soldiers mentioned is just reference to the arms and tentacles of the united state and its apparatus.

    in 1791, the only way the government can be close to you and know your every moves is to station its soldiers at your house / farm.

    there werent tactically dressed polices or FBIs or NSAs.

    not anymore.
  11. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by aldra if I remember right there was discussion that amendments to the constitution should be revisited once a generation, every 21 years or so

    Lol. When was that discussion?
  12. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    What an arbitrary number. Bad either way. 21 YEARS? WTF? hey maybe once every 20.. nay, 21! years.. let's check this. Not a moment sooner or later.
  13. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by mmQ What an arbitrary number. Bad either way. 21 YEARS? WTF? hey maybe once every 20.. nay, 21! years.. let's check this. Not a moment sooner or later.

    a new man is created every 21 years.
  14. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by benny vader a new man is created every 21 years.

    Shut up.
  15. Originally posted by mmQ What an arbitrary number. Bad either way. 21 YEARS? WTF? hey maybe once every 20.. nay, 21! years.. let's check this. Not a moment sooner or later.

    That’s literally exactly how they came up with the legal drinking age
  16. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by benny vader exactly, their first and foremost constitution.

    whether their applicable as law or otherwise is subject to many things and events.

    You don't know Jack. You're all backasswards on this...
  17. Trust me benny, American politics is nothing like politics anywhere else. It's convoluted, and requires having been here at least a couple decades to understand, and seems ridiculous to people on the outside.
  18. Originally posted by Juicebox Trust me benny, American politics is nothing like politics anywhere else. It's convoluted, and requires having been here at least a couple decades to understand, and seems ridiculous to people on the outside.

    It’s pretty simple to understand really.

    1. Majority rules
    2. The majority of people are stupid
  19. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by mmQ Lol. When was that discussion?

    https://newrepublic.com/article/63773/what-jefferson-said

    link to the actual letters is dead because it looks like the archive site has been rearranged, but basically, there was a lot of discussion around the time of the writing of the constitution as to whether it should be static or whether it should be reviewed 'once a generation'
  20. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Fox Paws It’s pretty simple to understand really.

    1. Majority rules
    2. The majority of people are stupid

    Wrong, this a Republic which is ruled by law. You are describing a democracy.
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