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Earliest Concrete Evidence of Russian Meddling
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2017-10-03 at 4:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock yes. I keep reading in the american communist MINITRU about how Russia is being naughty with facecrap ads that they (MINITRU) translate to mean that Russia is trying to influence americans. one they specifically cited is a negros shooting a gun, but I can't find it to make my own decision.
I never bothered to look into it considering there's been literally zero evidence presented for the 'russian interference' narrative thus far. just skimming over an NYT article now it appears they've forgotten the evidence again.
If it's true and the Russian government actually is buying out social media ads, it's a solid, slow-burning tactic - by promoting extreme left and right groups they're effectively removing the middle ground and making them more and more aggressive toward each other...
Though that's been the way of 'democracy' in the west for the past few decades. This is nothing new; it's literally just a continuation of identity politics into social networks. In all likelihood (assuming there is some actual basis for Facebook to claim Russian ownership) the people who set up the pages are actually US citizens who used foreign proxies to set up those pages and groups for fear of being tracked by Facebook or the government - fringe groups on both the left and right tend to distrust them. Come to think of it, for advertising, they may have simply traced transactions back to sketchy Russia-based currency traders like Webgold/Egold and the like -
2017-10-03 at 5:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I never bothered to look into it considering there's been literally zero evidence presented for the 'russian interference' narrative thus far. just skimming over an NYT article now it appears they've forgotten the evidence again.
If it's true and the Russian government actually is buying out social media ads, it's a solid, slow-burning tactic - by promoting extreme left and right groups they're effectively removing the middle ground and making them more and more aggressive toward each other…
Though that's been the way of 'democracy' in the west for the past few decades. This is nothing new; it's literally just a continuation of identity politics into social networks. In all likelihood (assuming there is some actual basis for Facebook to claim Russian ownership) the people who set up the pages are actually US citizens who used foreign proxies to set up those pages and groups for fear of being tracked by Facebook or the government - fringe groups on both the left and right tend to distrust them. Come to think of it, for advertising, they may have simply traced transactions back to sketchy Russia-based currency traders like Webgold/Egold and the like
its utter hypocrisy for the MINITRU to make those accusations against the rooskies when virtually every 'news' article published is intended to cause strife (Im not saying that word is copyrighted...but I specifically used that word in many, many facecrap posts years and years ago...an now the media is using it?) in one way or another. race-A vs race-B...sports-enthusiast-A vs sports-enthusiast-B...elections-party-A vs elections-party-B...generation A vs generation B...income group A vs income group B...The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-10-04 at 2:59 AM UTC
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2017-10-12 at 2:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock its utter hypocrisy for the MINITRU to make those accusations against the rooskies when virtually every 'news' article published is intended to cause strife (Im not saying that word is copyrighted…but I specifically used that word in many, many facecrap posts years and years ago…an now the media is using it?) in one way or another. race-A vs race-B…sports-enthusiast-A vs sports-enthusiast-B…elections-party-A vs elections-party-B…generation A vs generation B…income group A vs income group B…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-10/new-york-times-reveals-russia-ads-were-mostly-made-americans
fucking lol
actual data hasn't been released publicly yet, but the NYT has apparently seen the list of ads (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/technology/russia-election-facebook-ads-rage.html) and they're virtually all US-written material - far left and right news and opinion articles that were ostensibly promoted by people in Russia or using Russian accounts. -
2017-10-12 at 3:01 AM UTChttp://21stcenturywire.com/2017/10/05/fake-news-collapse-msms-facebook-russian-bot-story/
more in-depth information if you want to lose a few IQ points